Zoom chat: 2020-07-29 ICANN69 Planning Committee Call

12:57:46 From Amrita Choudhury : Hi everyone
12:59:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Hi Amrita
13:02:06 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Hello everyone
13:02:39 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome All,
13:03:00 From Heidi Ullrich : We are trying to get the latest block schedule.
13:04:02 From Heidi Ullrich : We’ll have it shortly.
13:04:13 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thx Heidi
13:06:18 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE : Thank Heidi
13:08:17 From Jonathan Zuck : Heh, heh
13:09:24 From Judith Hellerstein : @staff can we also have RTT
13:09:57 From Heidi Ullrich : @Judith, no, as during ICANN67, no RTT services.
13:10:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : ahh Thx @JZ
13:10:19 From Jonathan Zuck : Like a RALO meeting
13:10:31 From Jonathan Zuck : Correct
13:11:51 From Judith Hellerstein : what about the prep week -can we have rtt then
13:12:14 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE : Good question
13:12:39 From Heidi Ullrich : @Judith, my understanding is no.
13:13:10 From Heidi Ullrich : @Siva, I’ve heard from the meetings team that cross-SOAC calls can take place during Work Week.
13:13:24 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Hello all! My apologies I am late
13:13:53 From Michelle DeSmyter : Welcome Natalia!
13:13:56 From Judith Hellerstein : we did this time, we had rtt during prep week but not for the meeting
13:14:02 From Jonathan Zuck : That’s right. It’s just going to be a question of conflict management or trying to assign people to attend non-atlarge meetings
13:14:06 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Thanks Michelle!
13:14:47 From SivasubramanianM : @heidi Thanks. There is also a possibility that some Cross Community meetings may also need to be 'internal' CC meetings.
13:15:18 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : more multilateral or bylateral @Siva
13:15:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Cross Community ones are usually unconflicted times
13:16:50 From SivasubramanianM : However, the internal week covering most of the AC / SO internal deliberations, why not suggest that the ICANN week be more of Cross Community meetings, at least two full days of Cross Community meetings
13:17:50 From SivasubramanianM : @Cheryl, yes I meant multi - AC/SO meetings, almost all of ICANN
13:18:02 From SivasubramanianM : But even bilateral meeting are good
13:18:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : the Plenary times are the true Cross Community ones and I assume (if we get to that slide) will be arranged to be unconflicted
13:19:22 From Jonathan Zuck : Yes, Cheryl
13:19:26 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes PLease!
13:19:53 From SivasubramanianM : For Cross community meetings not to conflict with AC SO schedules, at this stage of planning, perhaps ALAC (this WG) could propose that ICANN schedules two full days of linear, (non-concurrent) sessions as Cross Community (ICANN-wide or two/three AC/SO) sessions
13:20:00 From SivasubramanianM : That was @Cheryl
13:21:37 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE : I fully agree with Bashar because more and more we are attending a lot of webinars and scheduling conflicts are becoming a little recurrent, we will have to maximize the chances of seeing our actors participate in our meetings more effectively.
13:23:10 From Jonathan Zuck : @Maureen, looks my day begins at midnight…
13:24:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : yes the feedback on thie experiment"will be **interesting**
13:24:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : to say the least
13:24:08 From Amrita Choudhury : Agree Maureen
13:24:37 From Heidi Ullrich : Action items and notes will be noted here: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+items%3A+2020-07-29+ICANN69+Planning+Committee+Call
13:26:07 From Jonathan Zuck : I think we should double up the DNS Abuse session to further frustrate the Cps. ;)
13:27:07 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : Also RGPD/ GDPR impact for internet end-users
13:27:12 From SivasubramanianM : One way to minimize the effect of time zone conflicts is to think of a Virtual day (of a week long meeting) as a day that is 30 hours long
13:27:14 From Jonathan Zuck : Yes, HUGE topics. Prioritization in particular
13:27:31 From SivasubramanianM : Monday meeting starts at 6 am Hamburg
13:27:36 From Jonathan Zuck : +1 Abdeldjalili
13:27:39 From SivasubramanianM : Tuesday start at 12 noon hamburg
13:27:42 From SivasubramanianM : and so on...
13:28:06 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yup Prioritisation and MSM does make sence
13:28:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : INdeed @JZ
13:29:13 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : Universal Acceptance is also great topic for Atlarge Community
13:29:51 From Heidi Ullrich : So far: Main Plenaries - 1) Prioritization; 2) MSM; 3) EPDP; 4) UA
13:30:37 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Cybersecurity in pandemic era, GDPR (+1 to Adeldjalil), DNS abuse again (+1 to Jonathan), MSM
13:30:57 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : UA, yes
13:31:11 From Heidi Ullrich : @Natalia, are these main plenary topics or At-Large sessions?
13:31:17 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : 5-Next new round nGTLD
13:32:10 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Plenary @Heidi
13:32:35 From Heidi Ullrich : Main Plenaries - 1) Prioritization; 2) MSM; 3) EPDP; 4) UA; 5) DNS Abuse; 6) Cybersecurity in pandemic era; 7) SubPro/new round
13:33:00 From Heidi Ullrich : Given the number of suggestions vs main plenaries, is there a priority?
13:35:32 From Jonathan Zuck : 1. Prioritization, 2. SubPro, 3. EPDP, 4. MSM
13:35:46 From Heidi Ullrich : Thanks.
13:36:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : How to engage with the recommendations for Outreach and engagement in preparation for any future round for example might fit with what @Abdeldljalil was proposing for example
13:37:13 From Heidi Ullrich : Updated list: Main Plenaries - 1) Prioritization; 2) SubPro/new round ; 3) EPDP; 4) MSM;  5) UA; 6) DNS Abuse; 7) Cybersecurity in pandemic era;
13:37:57 From Judith Hellerstein : i would put dns abuse in front of ua
13:38:23 From Judith Hellerstein : cyber, msm, dns abuse
13:38:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Works for me @JZ
13:39:20 From Heidi Ullrich : @JZ perhaps complete 20-21 workplan: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+2020-2021+Workplan
13:39:34 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : good point jz!
13:39:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : that would be nice @ Heidi
13:39:42 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Agree @Jonathan
13:39:53 From Judith Hellerstein : yes i like that JZ
13:39:58 From Heidi Ullrich : Noted!
13:46:50 From Jonathan Zuck : For SURE! +1 Olivier. We will want to do our own consensus building on topics of interest to us.
13:46:57 From Judith Hellerstein : yes JZ that is great!! Happy to lead some of these. All theTTF is meeting on Monday aug 3 at 1500 uTC
13:47:50 From Jonathan Zuck : Yes, lots of POLICY. Just don’t know yet what the best sessions should be
13:47:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : :-)
13:49:53 From Jonathan Zuck : The 3 week format allows for greater participation in the meetings of other groups for ADVOCACY!
13:52:09 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Advocacy and engagement outside of our own silo would be nice ;-)
13:52:17 From Heidi Ullrich : My understanding is that there will be interpretation during all three weeks.
13:52:22 From Jonathan Zuck : Yes, it was AWESOME. I’m just talking about when it’s not available.
13:53:01 From Jonathan Zuck : Zoom capacity is limited.
13:54:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Judith has Zoom's own captioning and translation services work developed over recent months with all the use *of* their platform (since March 2020)
13:55:32 From Jonathan Zuck : Yes, @Cheryl. That’s why Streamer is a great addition.
13:55:55 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I know what they Hd in the beginning of the pandemic I wondered what was developed/ing now
13:56:11 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : perhaps ICANN can also ask Zoom that for us
13:56:14 From Hanan Khatib : good idea Judith
13:58:08 From Judith Hellerstein : i raise that with them before but did not get very far
13:58:29 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond : If using Adigo adds $10K to the cost of the meeting then it realy is not a wise cost saving.
13:58:46 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond : If using Adigo adds $1M then I can understand
13:58:48 From Judith Hellerstein : with mobile you do need two devices
13:59:16 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond : the Majority of the developing world accesses the Internet through a mobile device
13:59:21 From Hanan Khatib : how many languages streamer can handle?
13:59:29 From Hanan Khatib : and can we test the streamer our planning committee meetings and the check the translations ?
14:00:01 From Jonathan Zuck : Yes, let’s test Streamer, for sure.
14:00:27 From Jonathan Zuck : I think that can all be managed with some planning, even on mobile devices.
14:00:48 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond : I am also concerned that having two programs running at once streaming 2 languages means twice as much data traffic used, which is eactly what the developing world does NOT want
14:00:53 From Judith Hellerstein : Joly plans to use streamer but has been working with otter.ai more.
14:01:58 From SivasubramanianM : otter.ai is good.
14:02:20 From SivasubramanianM : at least for transcription. Don't know how it works for translation.
14:02:25 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye call next ??
14:02:30 From Amrita Choudhury : Thank you
14:03:21 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : i fully agree what ocl said, especially with the data traffic!
14:03:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Exactly @JZ
14:03:49 From Judith Hellerstein : JZ lets chat after the call
14:04:14 From SivasubramanianM : For breaks and evenings, we could also try something like gather.town which is what the IETF is experimenting with.
14:04:19 From Amrita Choudhury : Agree Jonathan
14:04:21 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : always a good thing to stream as well
14:04:22 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Agree @Jonathan
14:04:30 From Hanan Khatib : nice idea's
14:04:49 From SivasubramanianM : People could virtually gather in small groups as around a Dinner table, or a bar counter or a lounge sofa and converse in groups
14:04:53 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE : Agree
14:05:17 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : The live coffe breaks do that @SIva
14:05:22 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : thats a very good idea especially with youtube jz
14:05:49 From Jonathan Zuck : Or brainstorming within a session
14:06:02 From Heidi Ullrich : +1
14:06:03 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Weekly makes sense JUST a Standing time please!
14:06:08 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Thanks and bye to all
14:06:10 From SivasubramanianM : Yes Cheryl, but the IETF gather.town kind of looked more real.
14:06:10 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE : Yes exactly
14:06:15 From Heidi Ullrich : Thanks All.
14:06:22 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Thank you Maureen and all!
14:06:26 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : at the current ietf they do the same and it is very easy to participate
14:06:26 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Bye!!!
14:06:26 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE : Great meeting thank staff and all
14:06:28 From Hanan Khatib : is there any summary for the sessions
14:06:30 From SivasubramanianM : Thank you all...
14:06:34 From Hanan Khatib : thank you all
14:06:37 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : cu
14:06:40 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : thx