00:15:11 Gopal Tadepalli: Greetings. - Dr. T V Gopal, Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, College of Engineering, Guindy Campus, Anna University , Chennai, INDIA.
00:15:47 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Closed captions are available through the Zoom CC/Live Transcript icon. A running realtime transcript is also available at the following link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
00:16:01 Greg and Deborah: Hi All, Greg Shatan here as well.
00:16:06 Herb Waye Ombuds: Greetings all… hope everyone is well.
00:17:00 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Hi Herb
00:17:12 Judith Hellerstein: Hi all. Can you make sure the calendar invite has the right time. Today it did not
00:17:18 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Closed captions are available through the Zoom CC/Live Transcript icon. A running realtime transcript is also available at the following link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
00:18:30 Evin Erdogdu - ICANN Org: Hahaha
00:18:37 Evin Erdogdu - ICANN Org: Indeed
00:18:41 Evin Erdogdu - ICANN Org:
00:18:47 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: ;-0
00:19:15 hadia Elminiawi: @Olivier we understand though
00:20:53 Holly Raiche: Hi Michelle - on my screen, the slides aren’t quite centrd
00:21:00 Vanda Scartezini - Brazil: hi all sorry to enter bit late .
00:22:51 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: hi Vanda
00:23:08 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Evening/afternoon/morning all.
00:24:32 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Closed captions are available through the Zoom CC/Live Transcript icon. A running realtime transcript is also available at the following link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
00:25:07 Justine Chew: It's a very interesing workflow, I would add
00:25:33 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: A possible source of data on collisions would be dig queries on websites as some responses will include host names with various non-existent extensions.
00:25:53 Vernatius Ezeama: kindly dial me out with this number+234708518142
00:26:42 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: @Vernatius - we will dial out to you momentarily
00:30:08 Justine Chew: +1 Jim
00:30:24 Jeffrey Neuman: We all owe Matt a very big thank you for all the work he put in. The man is a wiz at statistics, and data analysis.
00:30:49 Justine Chew: Yeah, crazy wiz stuff by Matt Thomas!
00:31:31 Vanda Scartezini - Brazil: yes Jeff wonderful analysis done ...
00:31:47 Vanda Scartezini - Brazil: congrats matthew
00:32:03 Justine Chew: Yes, if you could run us through the conclusions, that would be great, @Jim @Matt
00:32:44 Jonathan Zuck: Perfect!
00:33:06 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: that would be most helpful, thanks @jim
00:34:04 Gopal Tadepalli: Any specific correlations with the Name Collision Occurrence Management Framework for the Registries? - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
00:34:14 Vanda Scartezini - Brazil: thanks Jim, your input is helpful..
00:35:13 Sébastien Bachollet: Do we have the link to the document Jim is talking about?
00:35:43 Jim Galvin: https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-publishes-name-collision-analysis-project-ncap-study-2-documents-27-1-2022-en
00:36:33 Sébastien Bachollet: Thanks @Jim
00:37:40 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Would the "top talkers" by volume be the public DNSes like Google's 8.8.8.8 etc rather than ordinary ISP DNSes?
00:38:40 Holly Raiche: It does make sense - thanks
00:41:20 Matthew Thomas: https://ithi.research.icann.org/rarends/
00:41:27 Chokri Ben Romdhane: +Olivier a DNS dictionary will be very useful
00:41:58 Justine Chew: Please remember that for purposes of the PRESENT public comment, the subject matter is these two documents which flow into the NCAP output ultimately
00:42:19 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: This research looks amazing. Thanks
00:43:14 Vernatius Ezeama: Am still waiting
00:43:53 hadia Elminiawi: Thanks for the statistics link
00:44:05 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: @Vernatius - I just sent you a private message
00:47:32 Jeffrey Neuman: And even then if there is collision, that is not indicative that there is necessarily "harm" as a result.
00:48:08 Jeffrey Neuman: ICANN as a community will also have to decide what types of collisions are acceptable and which are now.
00:48:10 Jeffrey Neuman: nnot
00:48:19 annewilkinson: I understood SB’s question, but I do not understand the answer. I shall read lthe 2 documents. CW
00:48:55 Jeffrey Neuman: For example, Handshake Domains, or blockchain domains will likely cause collisions, but will that dissuade ICANN from delegating strings?
00:48:56 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Thanks.
00:50:08 Justine Chew: There is a specific definition for Name Collision
00:50:22 Justine Chew: or what we mean by name collision
00:50:25 Jim Galvin: blockchains collisions are namespace collisions, not domain collisions. that distinction is covered in the definition in the work in the discussion group.
00:50:36 Jeffrey Neuman: @Jim - true
00:53:16 Vanda Scartezini - Brazil: Jim totally agree with your position related to board fiduciary responsibility
00:53:31 Jonathan Zuck: Thank YOU both for presenting!
00:53:31 Vanda Scartezini - Brazil: thank you both Jim and Matt
00:53:34 Justine Chew: Thanks @jim and @matt
00:53:34 Evin Erdogdu - ICANN Org: Thank you, Jim and Matt!
00:53:44 Holly Raiche: `Thanks for the presentation
00:53:51 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Thanks Jim and Matt. Very interesting presentation.
00:54:10 Matthew Thomas: Thank you everyone. Have a good day.
00:54:15 Jim Galvin: i’m going to drop now. thanks again. happy to participate again.
00:54:28 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Thank You
00:54:38 Vanda Scartezini - Brazil: thanks Jim
00:54:50 Steinar Grøtterød: I am attending this call :-)
00:55:05 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: The interpreters are not able to interpret Daniel’s line
00:55:15 Holly Raiche: He’s breaking up
00:55:27 Vanda Scartezini - Brazil: impossible to understand what Daniel is saying
00:56:23 Daniel K Nanghaka: apologies my Network is not very good
00:56:48 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: sounds like echo cancellation is cancelling your voice out, Daniel
00:57:09 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: so we hear the beginning of your words and it then gets cut out or suppressed
00:57:43 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: @Steinar Is there any pushback from the Registries/Registrars community on reducing the number fo days?
00:59:04 Daniel K Nanghaka: The days are to be reduced to between 5 and 10 days
00:59:07 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Thanks, Steinar.
01:01:28 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Thanks, Daniel.
01:02:00 Steinar Grøtterød: Thanks Daniel
01:02:39 Daniel K Nanghaka: Thanks Steiner despite connection challenges on my side
01:03:35 Holly Raiche: \
01:07:35 Justine Chew: No arguments @AK
01:08:17 Justine Chew: The discussions at the IDN EPDP are lively and constructive
01:11:10 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: There will be multiple data commissioners involved due to registrars being in different EU jurisdictions. It is all a bit of a mess.
01:12:00 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Catch 22 - the GDPR version. :)
01:12:20 Holly Raiche: Should the ALAC formally ask for the data?
01:12:54 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: May as well @Holly IMO
01:14:01 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: The NIS2 directive is going to run head-first into that problem as well with its insistence of DNS operators being identified.
01:14:24 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: The data in the sample of doms?
01:14:52 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: she put it in at a point in time of Alan's information Sample data
01:15:24 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Ask the can only say No
01:15:46 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: @Alan It would involve dealing with the data commissioners of various EU countries.
01:16:26 Gopal Tadepalli: I hope this article can be referenced in this forum as per CPWG rules. Harvard Business Review Article titled "How to Make Better Decisions with Less Data" at: https://hbr.org/2016/11/how-to-make-better-decisions-with-less-data - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
01:25:03 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Understood @JZ
01:25:24 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Network problems so missed the last part of the scoping discussion.
01:26:09 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Save it for S@
01:26:12 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: S2
01:29:17 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: It is a very data-heavy topic. Some of the problems (small) might be due to developers including self-designated TLDs in the DNS entries for websites so there are the public IPs/hostnames in a record along with a private hostname or IP.
01:30:39 Holly Raiche: Agree with OCL - at least say we appreciate the work being done -
01:31:43 avri doria: I thought .home was Apple, and .corp was the Microsoft one.
01:31:56 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: @Avri --- you are correct
01:31:58 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: sorry
01:32:01 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: :-)
01:34:08 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Questions+for+ICANN73
01:36:59 Marita Moll - Canada: There is a list of 4-5 topics including Global Public Interest
01:37:13 Holly Raiche: jjkl…’//]
01:37:25 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: and IMO probably To Many issus for the single meeting
01:37:43 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: We covered these in the ICANN 73 planning call for reference
01:38:26 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: The technical appendix (methodologies) of that document posted to the mailing list was much better than the main document and is worth reading to understand the motivations in the main DNS abuse paper. The wider definition in the main paper was wrong.
01:38:59 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: It blurred the line between DNS abuse and content abuse.
01:39:55 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: indeed
01:40:03 hadia Elminiawi: we hear you
01:40:23 Holly Raiche: Thanks John - a helpful way into the document
01:44:13 Gopal Tadepalli: Thank you all. I am leaving now for another meeting. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
01:44:23 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Sorry I need to leave now to join another call
01:45:13 Maureen Hilyard: Thanks Cheryl
01:45:21 Claire Craig: Unfortunately, I too have to leave at this time.
01:46:23 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: @Holly They did a lot of work to try understand the problem but the main paper was a bit light on explanations and just concentrated on the conclusions. It is best to read both.
01:47:14 Holly Raiche: Thanks John - will try to get to both
01:48:15 Jonathan Zuck: think it looks pretty good. Do We need to trim or would that be part of your discussion with the GNSO?
01:49:26 Jonathan Zuck: I do
01:49:45 Marita Moll - Canada: no problems with the list
01:49:45 Holly Raiche: It looks good
01:49:50 Maureen Hilyard: Perhaps when Justine takes it to the GNSO they may trim it..
01:50:13 Maureen Hilyard: Depending on what they might want to concentrate on
01:53:30 Chokri Ben Romdhane: شكرا thank you all
01:53:30 Herb Waye Ombuds: Take care everyone… stay safe and be kind.
01:53:35 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Next meeting: Wednesday, 16 February at 13:00 UTC
01:53:39 Matthias M. Hudobnik: Bye
01:53:42 hadia Elminiawi: Thank you bye
01:53:44 Matthias M. Hudobnik: Thxs
01:54:21 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Thanks/later all.
01:54:26 Maureen Hilyard: Thanks everyone.. interesting discussion
01:54:26 avri doria: bye, thanks
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