Zoom chat: 2020-06-10 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

11:59:07 From Claudia Ruiz : Welcome to the Consolidated Policy Working Group Call
12:01:26 From Evin Erdogdu : Just updated this link on the CPWG agenda
12:02:09 From Evin Erdogdu : Thank you Claudia
12:03:10 From Evin Erdogdu : Hello all, welcome.
12:04:06 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Hello everyone
12:04:24 From Dave Kissoondoyal : The zoom link on the email is not working
12:04:38 From Dave Kissoondoyal : I got this link on Skype
12:05:26 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome, all.
12:07:44 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : :))))
12:08:06 From Joanna Kulesza : Only the toughest came back.
12:12:14 From Jamie CART Support : Hello, may I have the CC priv's please?
12:14:38 From Claudia Ruiz : Done, thank you
12:15:48 From CAPTIONER CAPTIONER : Yes, CC is working now
12:17:02 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Hopefully these gremlins will be fully exorcised now, for going forward :-)
12:26:34 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : Hello all, sorry for the delay
12:28:12 From Alan Greenberg : And SSAC
12:34:47 From Hadia Elminiawi : +1 Cheryl yes sure we do not agree to leaving the priority 2 issues now to the gNSO
12:35:24 From Hadia Elminiawi : we already thought that those issues would be handled during phase 2 and this did not happen
12:36:06 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Understood but GNSO Council *is* the Manager for gTLD PDP processes
12:36:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and so in Council I want to make sure my understanding of our views'are cristal clear
12:37:14 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Cheryl agree but none of the ACs have a say there so we need to address this now where we do have a say
12:37:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Understood Thanks Alan *and* Hadia THANKS!
12:38:04 From Hadia Elminiawi : @oliver maybe
12:38:17 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Or even a Facilitated one
12:38:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : as in outsourced guide might have helped
12:38:55 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Understodd and noted @Alan
12:38:58 From Hadia Elminiawi : +1 Alan Janis has been a good facilitator
12:39:10 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Noted
12:40:11 From Alan Greenberg : Have to drop off but will be back
12:45:25 From christopher wilkinson : @Hadia&Alan, +1 JKOK
12:52:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : That last minute opposition without appeal is an issue the SubPro is planning on remediating in its recommendations, but in all of this analysis I see the discussion of lowering the threshold as important for ALAC and At-Large to support, Thanks Justine
12:52:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : personal opinion obviously
12:52:44 From Chokri ben romdhane : thank you @claudia for your support
12:53:21 From Claudia Ruiz : You’re welcome @Chokri, apologies for the inconvenience with the links
12:53:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Not hold to it, where would you shift it to? 13?
12:53:30 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : pitch for 12
12:53:32 From Marita Moll : Agree with @ JZ -- we should go for 12
12:53:48 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you Justine pointing out the relevant data is helpful but yes I agree with Jonathan
12:53:57 From Jonathan Zuck : Perhaps a quick poll?
12:54:29 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes excellent analysis @Justine
12:54:49 From Justine Chew : Okay with poll, can staff do one up?
12:54:51 From Marita Moll : Absolutely brilliant work by Justine in comparing and contrasting all this in such an accessible way
12:55:07 From Holly Raiche : It seems be we either reduce the threshold, or look at the tests - which we have done - so that applicants can gain the necessary points
12:55:43 From Hadia Elminiawi : +1 to reducing the threshold
12:56:07 From Chokri ben romdhane : great Diagrams , very instructive, Congrats Justine
12:56:26 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : yes KISS try for 12
12:57:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : :-)
12:57:49 From Jonathan Zuck : Please. Answer the poll folks
12:59:05 From Alan Greenberg : Back now.
12:59:14 From Hadia Elminiawi : for 2 "I don't know " but for the sake of completing the poll I said yes
13:03:20 From Jonathan Zuck : Staff, please DOCUMENT the results of the poll. Thanks
13:04:21 From Jonathan Zuck : Guess it’s a good thing we don’t have interpreters to worry about!
13:05:22 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Justine you are sure doing a tremendous amount of work
13:09:34 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Remember SubPro outcomes can only effect any future gTLD program and had no effect on any existing TLDs where the issues currently reside
13:11:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and SubPro's letter to the GNSO Council encourages a Community wide approach to the issues outside of future round mediation
13:14:01 From Holly Raiche : Thanks Christopher - we need to have the current recommendations implemented
13:14:32 From Holly Raiche : +1 @ JZ
13:14:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : SubPro is focussed on changes to the AGP for subsequent Round(s) it does not mean no further review to is may occur
13:14:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : That IS my understanding from you JZ yes
13:15:21 From Sébastien Bachollet : ATRT3 proposal: « Additionally, a framework of data collection must be in place prior to the next round of gTLDs and the availability all data set should be confirmed prior to the selection of the review members and must be provided within 30 days of the review being launched. »
13:16:56 From Holly Raiche : +1
13:18:06 From Jonathan Zuck : Perfect. Thank you, Seb
13:20:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : SubPro poured over the CCT-RT in detail I can assure you!
13:20:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : And you do a great job of that Justine
13:20:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : yes it is a tough balance
13:21:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : but the devil *is* in the details
13:21:39 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond : yes we are going to have to re-visit - really running out of time today
13:22:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : or in this case reinforcement of concurrency in views
13:22:12 From Jonathan Zuck : I believe it, Cheryl but, for example, we circulated a survey to registrars, who have obligation to participate in research and ZERO of them responded. This quickly becomes a question of leverage over people who are obviously trying to do the minimum to innterrupt their revenue
13:23:53 From christopher wilkinson : Collection and analysis of data is a permanent responsibility of the ICANN Staff. (A) it does not come inexpensive (why is this not being done already?) . (b) The IRT does not yet exist.
13:25:49 From Ricardo Holmquist : Next OFBWG call is tomorrow
13:26:33 From Alberto Soto : OK Ricardo
13:26:57 From Ricardo Holmquist : 16 UTC
13:28:58 From Holly Raiche : +!
13:29:44 From Justine Chew : @Christopher, possibly because a lot of the data (likely) comes from ROs and Rrs and there are some being collected already, not enough in breadth but it is also a question of obligation on the part of ROs and Rrs to collect and share date with ICANN Org.
13:31:29 From Justine Chew : Public Safety WG
13:35:07 From Justine Chew : The Small Team has an item on "CCT-RT" as a scorecard which is a compilation of what SubPro has considered and how.
13:36:06 From Justine Chew : We haven't gotten to that scorecard yet because we haven't gottten through all the topics that 'are' relevant to At-Large yet.
13:36:36 From Holly Raiche : Thanks Justine
13:38:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Sub Pro Final Report *will* be with the GNSO Council on or before years end.
13:38:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We have been running for YEARS now
13:40:59 From Holly Raiche : Looks good- thanks
13:41:06 From Justine Chew : Not this point, thanks @jonathan
13:41:14 From Justine Chew : Not AT this point
13:42:31 From Heidi Ullrich : Please see the ICANN68 At-Large schedule: ICANN68 - June 2020
13:42:43 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Special Thanks to Justine for her excellent analysis and communication(s) on SubPro work, JZ and OCL =>Good progress again today... Bye for now... and don't invite the gremlins next week ;-)
13:42:44 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Thanks and bye to all
13:42:45 From Heidi Ullrich : The daily schedule’s are posted here
13:42:48 From Justine Chew : There is an ICANN68 Prep session at 12:00 UTC for 90 mins I think
13:42:49 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : Thanks and bye
13:43:00 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you bye for now
13:43:03 From Filina Natalia (EURALO Secretary) : than you all
13:43:08 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes and then SubPro always clashes
13:43:18 From Evin Erdogdu : Thanks all
13:43:21 From Hanan Khatib : thank you all
13:43:24 From Roberto : Bye