Terri Agnew:Welcome to the At-Large Ad-hoc WG on the Transition of US Government Stewardship of the IANA Function Teleconference on Friday 8th August 2014 at 1500 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/GsHhAg
Terri Agnew 2:As a reminder, when not speaking please mute your line
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:Hello all
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Hello all!
Alberto Soto:Hello all!!
judith hellerstein:I got here late
Patrik Fältström - SSAC Chair:No no no!!!!
Patrik Fältström - SSAC Chair:I have nothing to present!
Terri Agnew 2:Welcome Mohamed El Bashir
Terri Agnew 2:Welcome Glenn McKnight
Glenn McKnight:Sorry to be late
Mohamed El Bashir:hello everyone
Mohamed El Bashir:hi Terry
Glenn McKnight:Hi Mohamed
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:http://www.ctu.int/download/Root%20Zone%20Infographic%20-%20April%202014.pdf
Mohamed El Bashir:hello Glenn
Mohamed El Bashir:can the operator call me again as my line disconnected
Terri Agnew 2:@Mohamed, yes
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:There's noise on the line: could everyone check that microphone is off when not speaking? Thanks.
judith hellerstein:it is much better now
Terri Agnew 2:Welcome Fatima Cambronero
Fatima Cambronero:Thanks Terri, sorry for being late. Can you call me to the Spanish channel, please?
Terri Agnew 2:@Fatima, we sure will
Fatima Cambronero:thank you!
Mohamed El Bashir:@terri can you please ask operator to call me omg dial-in number
Terri Agnew 2:@ Mohamed, I sure will
Mohamed El Bashir:thanks
Patrik Fältström - SSAC Chair:Thanks!
Aída Noblia:Se cortó mi llamada, por favor si me pueden llamar 59829023380 o 59898456389
Fatima Cambronero:thanks Patrick
Terri Agnew 2:@Aida, yes
David McAuley (Bloomberg BNA):Thank you Patrik and Olivier – those 3 docs will be helpful
Glenn McKnight:too close to the mic
Glenn McKnight:he is better
Alan Greenberg:For the record, North Amwerica is not a citizenship. A few of us are not Americans
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Group composition *before* the addition of 3 GAC members: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/process-next-steps-2014-06-06-en#graphic-composition
Alan Greenberg:Have the 5 GAC members been named?
David McAuley (Bloomberg BNA):Thank you Jean-Jacques. Is the leadership issue settled now – if so what is it. Was it only U.S. colleagues who wanted one chair with vice chaits?
Terri Agnew 2:Welcome Seun Ojedeji
Roberto Gaetano:@Alan: yes
Seun:Thanks Terri, apologies for coming in late
Roberto Gaetano:@Alan: the composition is here https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/coordination-group-2014-06-17-en
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Alan: yes, Manal Ismail, Michael Niebel, Jandyr Santos, Kavous Arasteh & I think it was Xiaodong Lee as well. Someone please check?
Seun:can someone be kind to let me know what is being discussed at the moment?
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Alan, yes the 5 GAC have been appointed: Manal Ismail, Heather Dryden, Kavouss Arasteh, Michael Niebel, Jandyr Ferreira dos Santos.
David McAuley (Bloomberg BNA):Agenda item 3 - review of ICG discuissions so far
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Olivier: Xiaodong is representing ccNSO.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks JJS -- sorry then no Xiaodong - he must be from another community
Seun:Thanks @David
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ok thx
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Seun: Jean Jacques & Mohamed are letting us know of the current discussions & issues in the ICG
Seun:noted thanks
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:hello, Mohamed lost contact?
David McAuley (Bloomberg BNA):Jean-Jacques, Mohamed: Does the group meet in an un-open manner at all or are all group discussions open to public?
Terri Agnew 2:Mohamed has rejoined on telephone
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks Terri
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Reconnected after lost my connection
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Mohamed we're taking questions at the moment & will come back to you immediately afterwards
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Sure, Thanks Olivoer
Seun:@Mohamed so i was asking on the mailing list is the "they" referred to in the draft charter written by ALAC referring to ICG or the community?
Mohamed El Bashir 2:I think we can also anwser questions of regarding ICG
Terri Agnew 2:Welcome Yasuichi Kitamura
Yasuichi Kitamura (ISOC-JP):Sorry for late attending here. i will check the recorded one later.
David McAuley (Bloomberg BNA):Thank you Olivier
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Hi Seun, "they wish to do so" in the charter refers to the communities
Seun:thanks mohamed
Mohamed El Bashir 2:its weekend in my side, missed responding by email
Seun:My other question to ICG is that i like to know the status of establishing the secertariat of ICG and also how does ICG expect to engage the chair +vice chair?
Seun:Is there any plan to clearly define the role of the Chair + vice chair within ICG?
Fatima Cambronero:thank you very much JJ. I understood
Seun:apologies i am unable to use the mic because my phone mic on ubuntu is acting up
Seun:@Olivier could you raise my questions
Fatima Cambronero:agree @Alan
Mohamed El Bashir 2:+ Alan
Loris Taylor:What is the approval or ratification process for the ALAC WG proposal by the ICG? And what are the timelines for the IANA transition in terms of proposals?
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Olivier, there's still a question from Seun.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:there are lots of qsuestions in my pipeline. Right now I have Seun & Loris
Avri Doria:I very much agree with Alan's point about it seeming that recommendations can only come from the direct clinet organizations.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Avri, @Alan: yes.
Fatima Cambronero:@Olivier, we will need another call ASAP :)
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Sorry got disconnected again
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Until operator call me again, Olivier please proceed
Seun:Thanks Olivier
Terri Agnew 2:@Mohamed, we are dialing back out to you
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:we are taking more questions yes no worries Mohamed
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Thanks Terri
Mohamed El Bashir 2:connected
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:welcome back
Terri Agnew 2:Mohamed is back
Seun:okay thanks but the second question?
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Seun, do you mind repeating in writing your second question, for all of us? Thank you.
Glenn McKnight:Not a question but a comment. I was wondering on best practices/examples of a process that has been effective?
Alan Greenberg:We really do not want to be perceived as a one-issue participant.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Alan, we have been responding on most items.
Seun:and also on the secretariat i think its important that the documentation part get finalised as soon as possible. If its going to be done by ICANN secretariat or the external then it should be concluded. There is need to improve on the documentation and public presentation from ICG
Glenn McKnight:Being one issue makes one sound self-serving
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Glenn, see my answer above to Alan.
Terri Agnew 2:As a reminder, please mute when not speaking
Seun:@Jean as per my second question; what is/will be the role of the Chair+vice chairs? has that been written/published somewhere?
Seun:getting background noise
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Seun, I will respond.
Tijani BEN JEMAA:It seems that this call will last several hours since we are still in Item 2
Loris Taylor:Too much background noise. I can barely hear.
Tijani BEN JEMAA:I have a hard stop at 16:30
Seun:@think we are in item 3 or 4 @Tijani
Mohamed El Bashir 2:its important we discuss our ALAC IANA discussions and how to provide feedback to us for ICG
Alan Greenberg:@JJS, understood, but perceptions are not necessarily controlled by overall reality.
Avri Doria:i still think the ICG was doing better when it was working without a chair and everyone was taking a lead on some topic or other.
Seun:Thanks
Roberto Gaetano:@Avri: that's because back then everybody had to take responsibility and not rely on somebody else to make decisions that they can blame afterwards :)
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Alan, understood.
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Milton has nominated Wolf Today to be nominated for a vice chair
Mohamed El Bashir 2:but Wolf has not accepted so far
Seun:for the politics 1+2vice is fine. However the 1chair could be non-us and at least 1vice non-US also
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes settle for 1+2
Roberto Gaetano:@OCL: Milton has proposed Wolf-Ulrich as co-chair with the reason that we need somebody from GNSO, so it is not sure whether the co-chair issue is closed
Alberto Soto:1+2
Gordon Chillcott:1+2
Aída Noblia:1+2 is better
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Keith withdraw his nomination today
Roberto Gaetano:@Mohamed: sorry, I should read all the chats before typing...
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Mohamed: noted.
Mohamed El Bashir 2:and Russ as well withdraw his nomination today
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Mohamed: so, this would be Alissa, Patrik, Mohamed.
Roberto Gaetano:@JJS: we have to wait to see what Wolf-Ulrich decides
Seun:@Mohamed the election for chair +vice is going to happen in phases right? so all the names listed go for chair and then the rest for for vice chair at a latter time?
judith hellerstein:1+2 is fine, 1+3 is better though
Terri Agnew 2:Welcome Evan Leibovitch
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Seun: no, because "rough consensus" people consider that Alissa
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:... is the Chair-in-waiting.
Heidi Ullrich:As a reminder:, the mailing list for this group is: IANA-issues@atlarge-lists.icann.org
Seun:oh...okay thanks @Jean but really thats not fair if you ask me; so Alisa is by default in chair position
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Seun: that's how it has worked out before the ALAC proposal.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Fatima +1. But that's easier said than done!
Seun::)
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Thanks Fatima
Fatima Cambronero:yes JJ :)
David McAuley (Bloomberg BNA):Must drop off - thank you
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks David
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:recording will be available immediately after this call
Alan Greenberg:@Mohamed - yes, we may not have a full proposal, but we do not want to just wait for January to start commenting on other proposals.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Olivier, that's what I did today with 7 colleagues of the Coordination Group...
Terri Agnew 2:Thank you for joining David
Avri Doria:i assume that AtLarge is going to be invovled in the ICANN CWG on Transtion.. No?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes absolutely
Roberto Gaetano:About the "short" charter, up to now there has been only one negative comment, nobody else has reacted yet
Roberto Gaetano:Maybe we only need somebody else to speak up, if they prefer a concise document
Seun:@Roberto by negative comment, do you mean from ICG or with this WG?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Avri: yes the ALAC will take part in the CCWG on IANA Stewardship Transition. Leon Sanchez & Tijani Ben Jemaa are currently on its drafting team. Julie Hammer for the SSAC (but is also SSAC liaison for the ALAC) is also involved in the drafting of the charter.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:So the ALAC is already fully involved in the IANA Stewardship Transition CWG in formation
Roberto Gaetano:@Seun: ICG, comment by Milton (who incidentally has the record of negative comments on ALAC's comments)
Seun:+1 for RIR :)
Seun:@Roberto oh..okay thanks for clarifying
judith hellerstein:+1 JJS
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Olivier: exactly.
Roberto Gaetano:Seun, wouldn't you be the ideal person to follow RIRs?
Fatima Cambronero:I can be in contact with LACNIC and ask them about the discussions on this topic...
Loris Taylor:I like the idea of a weekly call at the same time on the same day
Heidi Ullrich:Or is this time a good time for the majority?
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Olivier, I'll be traveling Thursday and Friday, but I can try...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:weekend and 0230 in the morning
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:no
Julie Hammer:NO
Alberto Soto:yes
Fatima Cambronero:Doodle please
Seun:@Roberto i did +1'd that
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:but we will be here regardless
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Doodle option
Gisella Gruber:I will send out a Doodle poll with several options for Wednesday and Thursday
judith hellerstein:i cannot make wednesday or thursday of next week
Fatima Cambronero:thanks @Gisella
Heidi Ullrich:Would the Doodle be only for next week or for the next several weeks until the situation becomes stable?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:only next week at the moment
Seun:@Fatima, could you perhaps share on the mailing list what you find out about LACNIC because they are the only RIR i don't have update about
Loris Taylor:Thank you Olivier, Mohamed and Jean Jacuqes
Seun:thanks for chairing Olivier
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Merci à tous ! Thank you all!
judith hellerstein:have a great weekend everyone
Fatima Cambronero:SEun, I will ask them and share in the list
Seun:thanks for our delegates also
Evan Leibovitch:+1 doodle. Thanks all.
Mohamed El Bashir 2:Have a good weekend, Bye everyone
Alberto Soto:tanks!!!!!
Gordon Chillcott:Thank you all
Seun:bye
Fatima Cambronero:thanks to everyon! Thanks JJ and Mohamed. Bye
Aída Noblia:Thanks all Bye
Glenn McKnight:bye
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:should be ongoing and you might want to think of time rotation if no clear single spot is shown
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye
Heidi Ullrich:goodbye
