Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the ESADT call on Monday 20 August 2012 at 1800 UTC
Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/Bg0eAg
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Helllo
Alan Greenberg:Dialing in now.
Silvia Vivanco:We can see you CLO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I will put a massage. 'hand up' to join a speaking que then *SIGH*
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:message that is ;-)
Gisella Gruber-White:@ Yrjo - I will give a screen shot of the ESADT page. We will not be able to scroll
Gisella Gruber-White:Wiki workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/zw0eAg
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I'm for the full work over and. to go to the effort of the reconstruction it will be WELL worth IMO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:hand up
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:luckily Yjro is on both the DT,s for section 3. as a a few of us are. so we should be able to coordinate :-)
Gisella Gruber-White:Rule 2: https://community.icann.org/x/ibbbAQ
Gisella Gruber-White:I have also added the COMMENTS on the wiki page
Gisella Gruber-White:if you scroll down on the document
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:they are not showing G they are now thanks
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Help yes. ditch Rapporteur as a term at all costs. the Regional balance of the team though important though
Gisella Gruber-White:@ ALL - please state your names! Much appreciated
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:this (let's call them a Chair and ExCom for now) but let that think to the other DT's work. so split. Chair. and Reps to "excom" as a place older term sepratly.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:remembering that Chair. HAS to be elected...
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:lol
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:PG-10 tablets
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:could work well to allow rotation of rolls. We do need to watch TERM limitations issues
Carlton Samuels:Hi all!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:hand up
Carlton Samuels:Was unavoidably deyaled.
Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome Carlton - I have added your name to attendees
Yaovi Atohoun:thank you
Carlton Samuels:Thank you, dear Gisella
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:LACRALO has a specific rule in our OP that ALAC representatives from LACRALO can only serve 1 two year term
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:ever or consecutive Carly
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Carlllton
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:argh typo
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:in fact it says "The term of office of the two representatives elected by the LACRALO vis-à-vis the ALAC shall not exceed two (2) years and they may not be re-elected."
Carlton Samuels:I am in favour of a 2-year term for Chair returnable. I am less sanguine for VC but a single year term returnable is best for turnover there.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:thanks Dev
Carlton Samuels:@Alan: +1 We must not make rules so tight as to disqualify 'qualified and available' candidates!
Carlton Samuels:@Sergio's suggestion: No, cannot be supported!
Carlton Samuels:what it does is discriminate and disqualify NomCom appointed candidates purely on the basis of route to ALAC
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:this is of course a limitation on the talent pool that LACRALO can utalize then but it is what it is at the moment unless RALO's harmonize in the future
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Sergio's suggestion, agree with Carlton, Cheryl - cannot be supported
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:lol but I do see the point Carlton :-) :-) :-) :-)
Gisella Gruber-White:Rule 7: https://community.icann.org/x/nrbbAQ
Gisella Gruber-White:will be screened shortly
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:it is a HUGELY demanding task. ALAC literally sinks or swims in ICANN and effectiveness based on the qualities trust and effectiveness and ACTIVITY of the ALAC Chair
Gisella Gruber-White:Rule 7 showing
Gisella Gruber-White:as well as Alan's comment
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Appointments should rarely be se
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:e ted by Election bug it is a method to poll to get preference from a list. the right to reject is essential
Gisella Gruber-White:Jose has disconnected and not able to connect him back again at this stage.
Gisella Gruber-White:No answern on his phone
Gisella Gruber-White:Tijani has joined the AC room
Carlton Samuels:@CLO: +1; a poll 'politicize' the choice for electing other ALAC representatives and so must be resisted
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:final hand up
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I am in total agreement with what Alan has said
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Alan picked up my point I was going to bring up Chattem House Rules
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:we need to think of also saving the reputation of our candidates. And also people need to be able to vote in full freedom. It is hard to choose between people you can consider as friends after spending to many hours virtually together, and even harder if friendships get broken because of votes
Gisella Gruber-White:Tijani has joined the phone bridge
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:absolutely OCL
Alan Greenberg:I' afraid that I need to leave sharp on the hour.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:and in my reason it is a real risk for futures in career or life. that can be effected by these matters
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:my reason should read my REGION but... actually either rwprks ;-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:nwpr
Alan Greenberg:I can handle later as well.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:nwprks should be works
Tijani BEN JEMAA:I do prfer earlier
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Good idea
Gisella Gruber-White:We can see if we can alternate with a 1300 UTC?
Tijani BEN JEMAA:If we alternate befor metween 1300 and 1700, it will be perfect
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:ohh dear
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:this is my way of saying that we'll never have an "ideal" time. ever.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:OCL has lost it finally flat earth In a modern world...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:ohh you mean equally painful fine
Tijani BEN JEMAA:k gsella
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:good meeting thanks all
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, All.
Tijani BEN JEMAA:bye
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:take care all
Gisella Gruber-White:Thank you!
Heidi Ullrich:Excellent chairing, Yrjo!
Carlton Samuels:Thanks Yrjo. Excellent!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye all good call
Carlton Samuels:Bye all
Yrjö Länsipuro:Thank you all!
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