Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the DSDT call on Thursday 21 February 2013 at 1900 UTC

  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/44VwAg

  Heidi Ullrich:Hi All.

  Nathalie  Peregrine:Hello!

  Yaovi Atohoun:Hello

  Silvia Vivanco:Hello all

  Sandra Hoferichter:Hello all there!

  Heidi Ullrich:Alan, would you like anything shown in the AC?

  Heidi Ullrich:Alan, has the call officially started?

  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, staff their own ROPs that must be followed :)

  Nathalie  Peregrine:Dev has joined the AC room

  Heidi Ullrich:Does every one have scrolling rights

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:thanks

  Yaovi Atohoun:Yes please

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I think this is appropriate to have here.

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:It is important to distinguish RALOs, ALS and leading into the ALAC is good. This makes it more accessible to the At-Large community

  Heidi Ullrich:From the ICANN bylaws:

  Heidi Ullrich:The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) is the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users. The role of the ALAC shall be to consider and provide advice on the activities of ICANN, insofar as they relate to the interests of individual Internet users.

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:are we correcting typos here too?

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:geograpghic -> geographic

  Holly Raiche:I do like the introduction as is as well as Heidi's addition

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes Heidi that text is the perfect sentance. to use

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:it reflects the outcomes of the review I think verbatim to the bylaws

  Heidi Ullrich:@CLO - re sentence - it was developed by you - and the Improvements group ;)

  Heidi Ullrich:Re AGAM, does that consist of all ALAC meetings at the AGM or only the Sunday or Thursday sessions?

  Holly Raiche:In this version, it is at the end- which I am happy with

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:agree with Cheryl on putting the text before "our" definitions, possibly in the introduction

  Holly Raiche:The definition of consensus is taken from our rules.   If it differs from GNSO, then it should be changed in both placed

  Alan Greenberg:An opinion or position reached by the group as a whole. It is generally reached by no less than 80% of the then sitting ALAC Members (see 12.1.3)

  Sandra Hoferichter:Should we delete this term if it is so difficult to agree on?

  Sandra Hoferichter:to define rough consensus would be easier

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:harder -- because the ALAC operated by consensus -- so it needs to be defined

  Sandra Hoferichter:then we can only refer to the rule when a vote passed succesful

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:the Chair can ask for "consensus calls"

  Alan Greenberg: a : general agreement : unanimity       b : the judgment arrived at by most of those concerned

  Yaovi Atohoun:1.72.3.1

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:indeed Alan consensus for us should indicate that a majority or vast majority if not all those sitting as ALAC agreeing to measured by general assessment, poll or vote....

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes Ao

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:should read yesvAlan. outlining wgat this table. does (I.e. define Capitalized terms) for the purposes of the ALAC  rules

  Sandra Hoferichter:thank you Holly, I understand the idea behind better now

  Sandra Hoferichter:but then we have to refer to something which is mesurable

  Sandra Hoferichter:like consensus is 80%

  Heidi Ullrich:Alan, when should the next call be scheduled?

  Heidi Ullrich:Yaovi, did you have a question?

  Yaovi Atohoun:wanted to make a comment

  Yaovi Atohoun:AGAM

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:definition of ALS - "grass-roots" organisation?

  Yaovi Atohoun:would prefer AGM for us and   IAGM  whn refering to the one of ICANN

  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks! bye

  Yaovi Atohoun:bye

  Nathalie  Peregrine:bye!

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks all

  Silvia Vivanco:Bye all

  Sandra Hoferichter:bye bye!

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