ALAC Participants: Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Gareth Shearman, Sylvia Herlein Leite, Tijani Ben Jemaa, Jean-Jacques Subrenat, Marc Rotenberg,
Sandra Hoferichter, Evan Leibovitch, Edmon Chung,
Liaisons/Guests: Sebastien Bachollet, Alan Greenberg, Ron Sherwood, Hong Xue, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
Apologies: Dave Kissoondoyal, Sergio Salinas Porto, James Seng, Fatimata Seye Sylla (non ALAC)
Absent: Mohamed El Bashir, Carlton Samuels
Staff: Heidi Ullrich, Seth Greene, Matthias Langenegger
Review of the Action Items from the ALAC Meeting of 22 January 2011
Staff to send minutes of BCEC/ABSdt call to all members for further comments.
ONGOING
Staff to add Alan to joint BCEC/ABSdt mailing list and to send Alan minutes of last meeting.-
COMPLETED
Heidi to follow up with IT re Confluence editing user's guide. -
IN PROGRESS
Heidi: I am still waiting for feedback from IT.
James to write draft of ALAC comment on Interim Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group.
ONGOING
Heidi: James has not responded so far. I will follow up with him.
Staff to organize a Community call on the Interim Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group. Steve Sheng is to be invited as Guest Speaker. -COMPLETED
Evan to be Chair AGAT WG.-
COMPLETED
Carlton to lead on drafting of unionized JAS Charter.
CANCELED - It was decided that Alan will draft the document
Olivier to inform GNSO that ALAC going ahead with unionized JAS charter.
DONE
AI: Staff to send draft ALAC unionized JAS Charter to ALAC-Announce mailing list with a courtesy comment to the GNSO.
Olivier to check DSSA WG Charter regarding positions that the ALAC needs to fill (re. alternate Liaison). Will follow up with Chair of SSAC. -
ONGOING - waiting for a reply
Staff to send announcement of At-Large DSSA WG members and their roles to the DSSA WG support staff. -
COMPLETED
Staff to send announcement to RALOs on ALAC decision to expand the ALAC Sub-Committee on Budget and Finance to one non-ALAC regional representative per region.
COMPLETED
Olivier to draft Preparation of At-Large Requests to ICANN's FY12 Budget working with the ExCom. The draft text is to be posted on the At-Large FY12 Budget Workspace.
COMPLETED
Staff, in consultation with CLO, to prepare brief ALAC response to the ATRT Report Recommendations. Staff to send to ExCom for review. -
COMPLETED
Staff to include on the proposed agenda to the next ALAC meeting reports from Improvements WTs. (They are to be put early in the ALAC agenda and allocated sufficient time for presentation, feedback, etc.)
COMPLETED
Review of Current ALS Applications
Staff summarised the current status of the current ALS applications:
Cook Island Internet Action Group: ALAC vote ongoing
Binary Egypt: ALAC vote ongoing
Forum des Cadres Scientifiques pour le Développement (FORCAS): put on hold, application form incomplete
European Media Platform: waiting for due diligence statement
Reports
CLO: Please note that my report has just been updated.
OCL: Do we still need to list the reports for .mobi
Staff: Yes, Andres Piazza is the current .mobi liaison.
Review and Revise Timelines on the Policy Advice Development Calendar
The following currently open public consultations have been scheduled for comment by the ALAC:
Proposed Process for Recognition of New GNSO Constituencies
Alan: The timelines are ridiculous, no one has the stamina to go through it.
Interim Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group
AI: OCL will review whether James will draft a Statement on the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group
The following currently open public consultations have not yet been discussed whether or not the ALAC wishes to prepare a statement on them:
ccNSO Delegation and Redelegation WG Final Report
CLO: I don't think it is necessary for us to write a statement on that. Ron, what are your views?
Ron: I agree
Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy Part B Working Group Proposed Final Report
Alan: I have not spent a lot of time on this.
OCL: Is this something we need to comment on?
CLO: It does affect end users but given our limited resources, I am not sure we need to comment on this.
AI: Alan and Sylvia will investigate whether it is necessary for the ALAC to send a comment.
Jean-Jacques: I wanted to make a comment on Delegation and Redelegation. ICANN's method is not very effective and our RALOs need to be alert to this.
Proposed New GNSO Policy Development Process
Alan: I am one of the authors of this document. It is important. It advises that the Advisory Committees should be able to start PDPs. I am happy to talk to everybody interested in writing the ALAC advice but I should not be the author of the ALAC comment.
AI: Dev and Dave to follow up with advise from Alan, Cheryl and everybody involved with the Proposed New GNSO Policy Development Process from At-Large.
Proposed Framework for the Fiscal Year 2012 (FY12) Operating Plan and Budget
AI: The Finance Subcommittee will draft an ALAC comment on the Proposed Framework for the Fiscal Year 2012 (FY12) Operating Plan and Budget
Post-Expiration Domain Name Recovery Working Group Proposed Final Report (ends 7 April 11)
Alan: This looks at registrants rights post expiration. There are none at this point. The report does not come close to what we would want. There were too many registrars in the WG and they teamed up against our interests. We can still make changes based on comments but we need to make them. Otherwise the registrars will make their comments and push in a certain comments.
OCL: Personally, I was a bit disappointed by the bullying of the registrars.
Alan: We need to have as many comments as possible from the At-Large community.
AI: Alan will summarise the difficult aspects of the Post-Expiration Domain Name Recovery Working Group Proposed Final Report and present it to the At-Large community in SFO.
CLO: We need to follow up with the public consultation committee with regards to cultural sensibility issues, in particular with respect to the holiday calendar.
Heidi: We have informed communication of a cross-cultural calendar but given the current resource constraints it is unclear when this calendar will be set up.
Jean-Jacques: ICANN's meeting team already has a quite extensive list of cultural holidays it takes into account for their meeting planning.
AI: Staff will ask the RALOs to review the suggested meeting dates for 2014 - 2016 (see http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-4-21feb11-en.htm)
Hong: Even the UN has meetings right after Chinese New Year. It is very difficult to coordinate international meetings.
The Security, Stability and Resiliency of the DNS Review Team Set of Issues (ends 6 April 2011)
AI: SSAC liaison to draft an ALAC statement on the The Security, Stability and Resiliency of the DNS Review Team Set of Issues.
AI: Staff will add this consultation to the SFO meeting agendas.
Proposed Bylaw Amendments as requested by At-Large Improvements WT A
Olivier read out the suggested modification on Article XI, Section 2.4.a (see https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/WT+A%27s+Proposed+ICANN+Bylaw+Changes+for+ALAC+Approval). The modifications were submitted by WT A.
Seth: You can also find the comments in the comment section on this page.
Samantha: The Bylaws are being maintained by the entire legal department. I can not make comments on the suggested modifications on behalf of the legal team. I can make general comments, however.
OCL: Jean-Jacques proposed to add a paragraph under XI.2.4a:
"The ALAC, as the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users, has a responsibility in enhancing ICANN's accountability mechanisms, as called for by the Affirmation of Commitments. It also coordinates some of ICANN's outreach to individual Internet users."
Samantha summarised the legal difference between At-Large and ALAC (details to follow shortly).
Evan: I am not all for this amendement. Registrants is too narrow, end user is much wider community.
Samantha: As we review the comments, we will turn to the final report of the WG. There is a lack of continuity in the WG report with regards to the use of the user concept.
Alan: We do not change At-Large's areas, they remained the same. If we do not make it explicit we will have to fight battles which will become a waste of time. It is not in the report because it was considered a given to the people who wrote it. This is not true for everybody.
Marc: I don't think the fact that it is not consistent with the Bylaws should stop us from doing what is right.
Evan: There are issues where we clash with the interests of registrants, such as Whois.
Samantha: Will there be a proposal with specific language sent to the General Counsel's office? We need the document by next week to include it in the SFO meeting agenda for the Board.
CLO: WT A sent it to the ALAC, it is now up to the ALAC to make a decision. We can either follow Alan or run a vote.
Evan moved that the ALAC approve the suggestions from WT A with Jean-Jacques' amendment and propose it the ICANN's General Counsel Office. Jean-Jacques seconded the motion.
The ALAC, as the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users, has a responsibility to enhance ICANN's accountability mechanisms, as called for in the Affirmation of Commitments. It also coordinates some of ICANN's outreach to individual Internet users. The ALAC considers and provides advice on all aspects of activity within ICANN, including policies created through ICANN's Supporting Organizations, as well as the many other issues for which community input and advice are sought.
The specific elements of how ALAC fulfills this mandate are set forth below.
In agreement:
TBJ, SHL, SH, CLO, MR, GS, EL, EC, OCL, JJS
The motion passed unanimously.
Brief Reports from At-Large Improvements Work Teams
The WG Chairs gave a brief presentation of the work of the Improvement WTs. All the presentations are available on the agenda page for this meeting.
GAC-Board Meeting - Discussion of ALAC positions
OCL: We will talk to the AGAT WG in Brussels. I imagine we could start with the first topic on the summary page for the Board GAC meeting:
T1: The objection procedures including the requirements for governments to pay fees;
Evan: Our position on this is evolving. We have room to move. There might be some fearmongering about a possible GVT veto, I don't think it is substantial.
OCL: I agree with Evan. I think our position has evolved since we submitted these statements. I suggest that we discuss this during the AGAT call.
Evan: AGAT has a specific task ahead. We need to propose specific wording. We are compressed.
T2: Procedures for the review of sensitive strings;
CLO: I encourage all of you to subscribe to the ATRT Skype list to discuss this further.
Tijani: I suggest that during the next 2 days we will comment on this and then we will compile the comments in the following two days. We do not currently have a position on all of those points.
OCL: Does anybody disagree with this?
AI: Heidi will email the ALAC and ask for comments on the At-Large position on the gTLD guidebook: https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/ALAC+-+February+2011+-+GAC-Board+Meeting
There was general agreement that Skype is better suited to follow the meeting than Adobe Connect.
CLO: I don't see a downside with having both an AC and Skype chat open.
AI: Staff will set up an AC room for the coming GAC-Board meeting in Brussels
Defining Consumer Choice, Competition and Innovation - Next Steps
Olivier: There is progress but it is very slow.
Heidi: There are several consumer-related meetings in San Francisco. Unfortunately, the most prominent meeting hosted by Beau and Alex is during the ALAC policy meetings on Tuesday.
OCL: Should ALAC take the lead on this?
CLO: Not the lead but a leadership role.
JJS: ALAC has an advantage. We can ask the RALOs to come up with examples why certain issues should be defended. Not all AC/SO can come up with such a worldwide representative view. I concur with CLO that we should participate but not be leading the process.
Evan: We have already extended in Registrant's rights and this is also an area where we can expand.
Alan: I agree with Cheryl. ICANN only really controls gTLDs. ICANN has only little influence on ccTLDs. We have an interest in ccTLD but ICANN has not a prominent role.
AI: OCL will continue following up with Rosmary Sinclair and the other members involved in a possible Consumer Constituency.
Heidi: There have been some changes. We are waiting to hear from Heather. We will have a formal meeting with the Chairs of the ccNSO and the GNSO. Vint Cerf confirmed his participation in the NARALO showcase.
CLO: We need to look at non-At Large meetings we will cover in SFO.
Evan: It is imperative that we have a formal meeting with the GAC. I understand that the GAC is occupied with Bruseels but still, this should not be forgotten.
Tentative Stanford Town Hall
Heidi: We started a mailing list. We have no resources so it would need to be self-organised. If we do move ahead, I suggest that we have a preparatory call in the next few days. The bus would cost USD 900.
Marc: There is a lot of interest but the key person has not responded to my emails. We are still looking at possible meeting venues. Do we reach out do a university environment or do we want to have it closer to the ICANN meeting? We need to determine in the next few days whether the local host will go ahead with this. If we don't have their consensus we can't go ahead. We should know by the end of the week.
Any Other Business
The ccNSO seeks 4 ALAC volunteers for new Study Group on the use of names for countries and territories
AI: The Staff will ask the RALO to put forward volunteers for the ccNSO study group on the use of names for countries and territories
AI: OCL and Staff will work together to look at ways to shorten the next conference call.
The meeting was then adjourned.
