09:40:49 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Welcome to the second APRALO Policy Forum Fireside Chat: “Let's Talk About Closed Generics” taking place on Wednesday, 08 June 2022 at 07:00 UTC.
09:41:00 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/LgH5Cw
09:45:20 From Aris Ignacio to Everyone:
Hi Justine!
09:59:36 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
Hello everyone
09:59:41 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
Hi Holly
09:59:50 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone:
Welcome, All.
09:59:51 From Laxmi Prasad Yadav to Everyone:
Hello everyone
10:00:02 From Aris Ignacio to Everyone:
hello and good day to all!
10:00:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Hi all
10:01:22 From Priyatosh Jana to Everyone:
Hi everyone....
10:02:48 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
Welcome everyone
10:02:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
You are indeed an honorary APRALO er
10:03:12 From Olévié A. A. Kouami to Everyone:
Greetings, good morning from Sénégal
10:03:27 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
Greetings. - Dr. T V Gopal, Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, College of Engineering, Guindy Campus, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
10:03:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
.museum
10:03:54 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
Hi all, please feel free to put your hand up if you wanted to make a comment or pose a question to our Guest Speaker, Holly.
10:05:59 From Raymond Mamattah to Everyone:
Good morning from Accra Ghana
10:16:08 From Olévié A. A. Kouami to Everyone:
Please, could someone here explain to me what exactly happening with the Red Cross trademark debate and the creation of the NPOC in 2011 ?
10:17:09 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
Red Cross is not a generic name
10:17:27 From Olévié A. A. Kouami to Everyone:
OKkkk
10:17:29 From Raymond Mamattah to Everyone:
.doctor is it by a group of medical association?
10:17:30 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
indeed not
10:17:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
it is the name of an NGO Non Gov Organisation
10:18:17 From Olévié A. A. Kouami to Everyone:
closed
10:18:21 From Satish Babu to Everyone:
Medical vs PhD?
10:18:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
or can Doctor be used for people holding academic qualifications such as PhDs
10:19:05 From Satish Babu to Everyone:
There has to be gatekeepers...
10:19:10 From Olévié A. A. Kouami to Everyone:
.bank
10:19:35 From Puteri Ameena Hishammuddin to Everyone:
dr seuss
10:19:37 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone:
Thank you for raising that point, Cheryl!
10:20:28 From Mikhail Anisimov to Everyone:
Dr Who and Dr Strange
10:20:43 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
Excellent Reference to Study: ICANN 47 in Durban: Moderator: Gisella Gruber: Dated: 17 July 2013 "Different Views on Closed Generics"@ https://archive.icann.org/en/meetings/durban2013/bitcache/Transcript_%20NCUC%20-%20The%20Debate%20on%20'Closed'%20Generic%20Top%20Level%20Domains-vid=52845&disposition=attachment&op=download.pdf - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University
10:21:25 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
I am rushing off now. Very Sorry to miss this lively discussion. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University
10:21:32 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
Doctorate in academia
10:23:33 From Olévié A. A. Kouami to Everyone:
Is this the same for the lawyers too ?
10:24:21 From Mikhail Anisimov to Everyone:
Another interesting question who should do the assessment and be responsible for the decision of someone being recognized as a doctor of bank
10:24:25 From Raymond Mamattah to Everyone:
Do we have cases where closed gradually become "open" generic?
10:27:08 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond to Everyone:
@Olévié yes youn could argue that lawyers are also a controlled profession in most countries thus it would be better if one needed to show some kind of certificate before being able to register a domain name under that type of top level domai
10:28:40 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone:
See the At-Large schedule of Sessions on Wednesday, including Closed Generics: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C+15+June+2022
10:34:41 From Isaac Apenteng to Everyone:
So will Close be in terms of a registrant having control and closing it to others OR closed to an industry or a community?
10:34:41 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
@Raymond, in the 2012 round, applicants for closed generic TLD were requested to choose to (a) either amend their applications into open TLDs, or (b) wait for the next round.
10:35:35 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond to Everyone:
@Isacc: it's a Registry that closes it or opens it
10:35:44 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond to Everyone:
not a registrant
10:35:45 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
As an example string: Doctor: Medical Doctors, Ph D graduates, other defined professionals well known to be designated Doctors, all with proof of qualification, yes or no decisions subjected to a Community process, even if the TLD is not a Community TLD ??? Would that be some kind of compromise?
10:39:54 From Frank Anati to Everyone:
hi everyone Frank Anati from Ghana
10:40:29 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
and Raymond with the options given to applicants, no one choose c) that Justine did not list which was to maintain the exclusivity of their proposed new gTLD
10:41:50 From Ebenezer Obeng to Everyone:
Hi everyone Ebenezer Obeng from ghana
10:42:35 From Isaac Apenteng to Everyone:
Hello everyone Isaac Apenteng from Accra, Ghana
10:45:41 From Olévié A. A. Kouami to Everyone:
IMHO a generic name is any word or name other than a country code
10:45:49 From Satish Babu to Everyone:
.kids looks like generic, but it's been delegated
10:46:12 From Raymond Mamattah to Everyone:
Thanks @Justine and Cheryl
10:46:15 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
.kids was applied as a community TLD I believe
10:46:32 From Hadia El miniawi to Everyone:
@Holly I think there is no single rule that can govern all kinds of generic TLD
10:46:42 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond to Everyone:
and that's where it gets more complex @Satish because indeed it applied as a community TLD….
10:46:46 From Godsway Akakpo to Everyone:
Hello Everyone am Godsway Akakpo from Ghana
10:46:55 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
.bank is a Community TLD as well
10:47:10 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond to Everyone:
and it failed to be sponsored as a Community TLD
10:48:20 From Christopher Wilkinson to Everyone:
Geo names are NOT ‘generic’ . Otherwise is there a risk that they become ‘closed’? CW
10:48:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
commonly used words or sets of words, can be other than 'Generic' when they are for example Brands etc., . but it is a remind you all the *Closed* aspect of this discussion not just the name/string per se/
10:50:48 From Olévié A. A. Kouami to Everyone:
You're right CLO
10:53:31 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
you could always offer sub domains even in .doctor offering Academic, legal medical and even other ;-0 as controlled /qualified categories of registrants ;-) but that would not be a CLOSED Generic just an innovative Generic TLD ;-)
10:58:26 From Hadia El miniawi to Everyone:
and At-large had also many discussions in relation to the public interest
11:03:26 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
@CW geo names could be seen as an entirely different class, not grouped as Open Vs Closed
11:04:58 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
Jonathan Zuck is running the session on Closed Generics.. which is specifically geared towards At-Large
11:05:37 From Christopher Wilkinson to Everyone:
@Siva - It is not only a question of definition, It is an issue of getting the Geo-names OUT of the purview of GNSO. - CW
11:07:24 From Puteri Ameena Hishammuddin to Everyone:
this session has been very helpful for a newcomer to be introduced to closed generics. like finally, I know what it is about haha
11:07:29 From Puteri Ameena Hishammuddin to Everyone:
thank you everyone!
11:07:47 From Hadia El miniawi to Everyone:
+1 Maureen join At-Large policy session: closed generic finding a balance -
11:07:50 From Lianna Galstyan to Everyone:
Thanks everone
11:07:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Thanks everyone... Bye for now then...
11:07:57 From Aris Ignacio to Everyone:
Thank you so much for this.. very informative
11:08:05 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
@CW all the more reason to see it as a different class
11:08:09 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
Thanks
11:08:10 From Olévié A. A. Kouami to Everyone:
Excellent ! Thank you all
11:08:11 From Prateek Pathak to Everyone:
thanks for the session!
11:08:17 From Ebenezer Obeng to Everyone:
Thanks so much everyone
11:08:18 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
Thanks everyone for coming along
11:08:19 From Olévié A. A. Kouami to Everyone:
Bye
11:08:20 From Raymond Mamattah to Everyone:
Nice session. Bye
11:08:20 From Priyatosh Jana to Everyone:
Thanks everyone...bye bye.....
11:08:27 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone:
Thanks for an interesting discussion!
11:08:50 From Isaac Apenteng to Everyone:
Thanks everyone
11:09:13 From Hadia El miniawi to Everyone:
the closed session in on Wednesday 10:30 EET
11:09:15 From Cherie Lagakali to Everyone:
Thanks everyone
11:09:19 From Hadia El miniawi to Everyone:
thanks all bye
11:09:19 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
Thank you
11:09:20 From Ebenezer Obeng to Everyone:
Bye
11:09:21 From Frank Anati to Everyone:
bye everyone
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