Zoom Chat: 2020-08-10 ALS Mobilization Working Party Call

20:40:13 From Yesim Nazlar : Welcome to ALS Mobilization Working Party Call taking place on Monday, 10 August 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
20:40:26 From Yesim Nazlar : Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/1wKbC
21:01:13 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : exactly
21:01:17 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : alan is fine
21:01:38 From Roberto : Now is fine
21:01:47 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : exactly
21:01:51 From Sarah Kiden : It seems clear now
21:02:22 From Amrita Choudhury : Seems good Alan
21:02:29 From Amrita Choudhury : Hi everyone
21:05:18 From Sarah Kiden : Barrack says he is trying to join
21:05:25 From David Mackey : A day without Cheryl is like a day without sunshine. :-)
21:05:55 From Judith Hellerstein : sorry was late. coming from the icann planning meetign
21:05:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : now that is sweet @David
21:12:14 From Filina Natalia (EURALO, At-Large, ICANN) : hello all, My apologies
21:12:17 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : we have to match the introduction with what we included in the procedures
21:12:46 From Filina Natalia (EURALO, At-Large, ICANN) : Agree Nadira
21:19:53 From Amrita Choudhury : using the common term predominantly may be better and easier for people to understand
21:20:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : agreed @Amrita
21:21:42 From Justine Chew : Perhaps put f together with d
21:22:01 From Amrita Choudhury : thanks Alan
21:23:49 From Amrita Choudhury : makes sense Justine
21:24:12 From Sarah Kiden : Agree
21:24:57 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : no point and not of our concern
21:26:16 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : yes C is needed
21:27:13 From Sarah Kiden : You’ve explained it better, Amrita. Thanks
21:27:18 From Yrjo Lansipuro : Both a and c are necessary
21:28:46 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : we can leave A optional
21:28:47 From Amrita Choudhury : both a and c is imp
21:30:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Memebrship Fees has a role in Governance as well
21:30:32 From Amrita Choudhury : i think we could keep it open
21:30:45 From Amrita Choudhury : and let applicant respond
21:33:17 From Sarah Kiden : It’s a good idea
21:34:00 From David Mackey : I’m happy with Cheryl’s comment
21:34:09 From Justine Chew : Essentially, b. is "what" and my question points to the "how".
21:35:26 From Justine Chew : +1 Nadira
21:36:42 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : then we have to revisit our earlier work
21:36:46 From Yrjo Lansipuro : +1 to Cheryl
21:36:56 From Sarah Kiden : +1 Cheryl
21:37:11 From Amrita Choudhury : I think any serious ALS applicant will be ok with this question
21:37:23 From Justine Chew : Fine as a cross-check question.
21:37:34 From Amrita Choudhury : If I was an ALS applying i would be happy to showcase my orgs activities
21:37:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Exactly @Alan
21:38:07 From Roberto : +1 Amrita
21:38:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : The earlier document establishes Expectations and Criteria
21:38:23 From Sarah Kiden : @Nadira, I think they are different issues
21:38:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Measurables
21:38:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : there is no need to match it is complemantary
21:41:01 From Amrita Choudhury : Response on question c. should not be a deciding factor..but just part of information
21:41:04 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : yes Alan that is the point
21:41:57 From Justine Chew : I understand Nadira's point -- wondering if we should be upfront with the connection with DNS within "Internet governance"
21:42:13 From Justine Chew : Ask as a supplementary question?
21:48:14 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : ByLaws are a governance issue
21:48:28 From David Mackey : We haven’t really identified acceptance or rejection criteria. The form is only bringing up information for a future decision.
21:48:30 From Sarah Kiden : I think in one of our applications, GSE recommended that we ask for the bylaws before proceeding with the application
21:48:34 From Amrita Choudhury : Agree it should be under governance
21:48:36 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : But it would be important for organisations to have ByLaws or Constiitutional instruments
21:49:03 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : This can also be related to the Memorundum of understanding on the creation of the ALSes
21:49:06 From Roberto : The point is that *if* they have bylaws we would like to have a look at them
21:49:16 From David Mackey : +1 Roberto
21:49:18 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : Some of them maynot be legally binding
21:49:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : it is a Yes/ No if Yes then share
21:49:41 From Justine Chew : +1 Cheryl, bylaws not mandatory
21:49:49 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : Rules or regulations of an organisations can be related to the ByLaws
21:49:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : exactly
21:50:15 From David Mackey : agreed
21:50:19 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : At least there must be some rules of operations of an ALS
21:50:20 From Judith Hellerstein : Great, just my concern that we are not excluding groups who are not incorporated
21:50:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : but if they do let us know about them... not a Go: No Go filter
21:50:28 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : Not ALSes which are run ninja style
21:50:31 From Justine Chew : No bylaws etc does not mean we are rejecting them
21:50:53 From Evin Erdogdu : @Daniel “ninja style” :)
21:51:07 From David Mackey : This is great!!
21:51:32 From Judith Hellerstein : I am involved in a group which raises our own funds but we do not have bylaws because we are not incorporated
21:51:34 From Roberto : I guess that the point is the other way around - if they say “no” we do not reject them - but if they have bylaws we may reject them if the bylaws mandate something that is incompatible with being an At-Large Structure
21:51:50 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : regarding Judith point you can put check box bylaws and Rules
21:51:57 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : @Judith but you have rules of procedure
21:52:00 From Justine Chew : +1 Sarah. Might we ask if anyone had referred them to us?
21:52:43 From Judith Hellerstein : We have guidelines and different committee and a leadership council but not bylaws
21:52:44 From Silvia Vivanco : I may have included it in a chart it in the past @Alan
21:54:03 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I hope so @Alan
21:54:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Lets aim to get it into the ALAC Agenda at the AGM Meeting
21:54:55 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes @Sylvia
21:55:34 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : week of the 18th Oct
21:55:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : The AGM is at the end of that week
21:56:04 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : thank you
21:56:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : All good Thanks everyone
21:56:10 From David Mackey : Thanks Alan, Thanks Everyone :-)
21:56:13 From Evin Erdogdu : Haha good light at the end of the tunnel!
21:56:14 From Sarah Kiden : Thank you!
21:56:15 From Amrita Choudhury : Thanks everyone and bye
21:56:21 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : thx
21:56:21 From Roberto : Bye
21:56:23 From Matthias M. Hudobnik : bye