Zoom Chat: 2019-09-18 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

15:38:45 From Yesim Nazlar : Welcome to At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call taking place on Wednesday, 18 September 2019 at 13:00 UTC
15:38:58 From Yesim Nazlar : Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/SYoCBw
15:57:04 From Holly Raiche : Sounds fine - but there is a hum…
15:57:17 From Holly Raiche : Hum is gone now
15:57:32 From Holly Raiche : Sorry - it’s back
15:58:02 From casas cristian : buenos dias
16:00:44 From Holly Raiche : Thanks - sleep will help indeed
16:01:40 From Holly Raiche : It’s clear now
16:03:01 From heidi.ullrich : Welcome, All
16:05:00 From Leon Sanchez : hello everyone!
16:05:04 From herb.waye : Greetings all
16:06:35 From Holly Raiche : May I please come higher in the agenda?
16:06:59 From Holly Raiche : Thanks
16:07:36 From Holly Raiche : Wondeful
16:08:06 From heidi.ullrich : AIs: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+items%3A+2019-09-11+Consolidated+Policy+Working+Group+Call
16:10:22 From Hadia : hello all
16:13:43 From Yesim Nazlar : welcome Hadia
16:13:58 From Hadia : thanks Yesim
16:16:08 From heidi.ullrich : PDP 3 - https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/pdp-implementation-plan-01mar19-en.pdf
16:17:17 From heidi.ullrich : Above is the Implementation Plan for the GNSP PDP 3
16:17:17 From Jonathan : And there are some dangers in it
16:18:16 From heidi.ullrich : Today’s Action Items are at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+items%3A+2019-09-18+Consolidated+Policy+Working+Group+Call
16:18:16 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : And the home of PDP 3.0 group: https://community.icann.org/display/GCP/GNSO+Council+PDP3.0+Home
16:20:35 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : PDP 3.0 Implementation plan: https://community.icann.org/display/GCP/Implementation+Plan
16:37:10 From Sebastien Bachollet : Can we invite Brian to make to this group a presentation and listen to the discussion (we need 1 hour for that)?
16:38:01 From Hadia : +1 sebastian - a presentation from Brian looks good
16:38:38 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : We need to that in time to leave enough time to draft the statement before the deadline
16:38:52 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : we need to do that in time*
16:39:41 From Marita Moll : Sorry to be late
16:40:13 From Holly Raiche : Agree with Abdulkarim - I think I have enough from this discussion to start.
16:40:49 From Holly Raiche : I’m signing off - thanks
16:41:23 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong (HOUSE OF AFRICA) : https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN%20%5bstreamtext.net%5d
16:41:31 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong (HOUSE OF AFRICA) : IS NOT WORKING
16:42:39 From Yesim Nazlar : @All: RTT is unfortunately not provided for today’s call. Apologies.
16:43:28 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong (HOUSE OF AFRICA) : Thanks @Yesim for the feedback . noted
16:45:01 From Yesim Nazlar : you’re welcome Abdeldjalil
16:45:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Marita has more t add I see
16:46:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I suspect it will be **VERY** useful Marita
16:47:25 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : JZ Let me know if and how I can help
16:47:44 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : LOL
16:47:58 From heidi.ullrich : Consumer Trust PC - https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=117607308
16:48:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Another topic ATRT3 is also observing (and analysing) *very closlY* is this CCT-RT Impleentation etc.,
16:54:03 From John McCormac - HosterStats.com : The DNS abuse definition doesn't capture the scale of the problem on the webscape side of the issue as opposed to the e-mail/spam side.
16:57:56 From LAC-chapters Zoom : Moving to phone to follow the meeting
16:59:10 From Leon Sanchez : I have to excuse myself as I have to join the EPDP call
16:59:26 From Leon Sanchez : thanks everyone
17:02:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : So MORE coming at us on these matters as a new tsunami wave coming down your pathways ...
17:02:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : which in itself keeps taking new priorities for all you/our available resources
17:03:59 From Sivasubramanian M : I wish to join as a penholder for the abuse draft
17:04:05 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : I have to leave for an auction proceeds meeting
17:04:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Living the examples of resource management and competition for the time taken from volunteers int o Polcy and other work :-)
17:06:10 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : overlap of even these three meetings is a reality and an 'issue" effecting how the ICANN MSM is evolving or needs to be further refined/evolved
17:06:22 From Vrikson Acosta : Aire y for joining late. I was in NCSG meeting which just ended.
17:08:04 From Sivasubramanian M : @CLO As much as we have consolidated Working Groups across stakeholder groups, we need to consolidate working groups across issues.
17:09:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and remember what VERY extensive deands on time has been made on your representatives in the EPDP process even now in the less time bound Phase 2 work GREAT blocks of meeting tome are being required for these vital discussions to be explored especially in such complex discussions
17:09:42 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Kudos to our Reps in the process
17:09:55 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes JZ that is a HIGE issue
17:10:07 From Sivasubramanian M : We could even try inter-sessional whole day (for one day every time) online ICANN meetings to bring together most ICANN policy participants to discuss a range of issues, rather than one topic at a time.
17:10:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : more manual more çostly'is the usual rule
17:11:12 From herb.waye : I have to drop out now. Best wishes all…
17:11:36 From Sivasubramanian M : Without even making such drastic changes, we could ask for improved staff coordination in scheduling meetings of various working groups, so that the time clash is minimised.
17:13:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : the risk of greater (human) error risk is a considerable one but also in addition to the time taken, aspects there is also issues of predictability and one assumes required transparency) in whatever (we suspect at this stage hybrid of partially automated) optioned outcome will also need to be developed and implemented.
17:14:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : stress testing might also need to be undertaken with optios/scenarios
17:15:17 From Hadia : Thank you Leon -
17:15:31 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : Amazing advice when some countries are implementing full public facial recognition. Another world!
17:20:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Of course this is why regular updating on these dynamic processes in Policy development are so important... these are very dynamic discussions
17:21:02 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and how mush safety ond trust can one hae in automated pahses of any processes
17:23:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : the upcoming Sub Pro call Agenda is here FYI https://community.icann.org/x/doTkBg
17:23:27 From Jonathan Zuck : Sounds like PDP3.0 would be a good topic
17:24:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : especially once it is more fully announced JZ
17:24:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : at and post Montreal
17:26:00 From Marita Moll : I guess you could put me down for that
17:26:43 From Marita Moll : No hero -- but thanks Cheryl!!
17:27:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : so almost a week is gone
17:28:12 From Marita Moll : I can to that!!
17:31:09 From Hadia : @jonathan cool!
17:32:45 From Sivasubramanian M : no audio
17:32:58 From Hadia : I have audio
17:33:09 From John McCormac - HosterStats.com : Audio fine here.
17:33:10 From Marita Moll : yes, okay for me -- I have audio
17:33:26 From Jonathan Zuck : I think I’m talking too fast for the translators. sorry
17:34:43 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Excellent and engaging... these efforts are great ways to increase and improve ?expand engagement on matters... has my support as a worthy activity!!!
17:34:46 From Marita Moll : Nicely done Jonathan!! A lot of things packed into a small box
17:34:52 From Leon Sanchez : Love the video
17:34:52 From avri doria : nice
17:35:00 From Leon Sanchez : it is so professionally done
17:35:02 From Leon Sanchez : well done!
17:35:07 From Hadia : Well done
17:35:17 From Leon Sanchez : I would gladly volunteer to have it translated into Spanish
17:35:36 From Gordon Chillcott : This was very, very good. Especially appreciated the ending.
17:36:10 From Marita Moll : I love it.Would definitely use it in outreach sessions to quickly describe what this issue is about.
17:36:40 From avri doria : it is the kind of thing one might expect from a film maker
17:40:19 From Hadia : back again
17:41:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : it's asynchonus, flexible in its use, and low bandwidth used as a proer for other work to build on
17:41:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : proer should read primer
17:42:37 From Sebastien Bachollet : Board can hire Jonathan
17:42:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : 5 -7 mins and under is still OK IMO
17:42:58 From Gordon Chillcott : I did not find this too quick, no.
17:44:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : good use of resources JZ stilla place for the full service bells and whistles stuff for other activities
17:44:40 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : AGreed @Heidi
17:47:13 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : need to work WITH ICANN for those options then JZ
17:47:44 From Leon Sanchez : Thanks everyone
17:47:47 From Hadia : thank you all
17:47:51 From Hadia : bye for now
17:47:59 From Gordon Chillcott : THanks and bye for now.
17:48:12 From Marita Moll : Thanks -- by all
17:48:36 From avri doria : GPI Details at https://go.icann.org/2kMb7RB