Zoom Chat: 2019-05-02 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

14:41:34 From Glenn : On the CITU Call now from Port of Spain but will switch when it starts
14:44:17 From Andrea Glandon : Thank you, Glenn
14:50:52 From Evin Erdoğdu : Hello all, welcome.
14:52:07 From Glenn McKnight : hi marita and andrea
14:55:56 From Andrea Glandon : Wiki Agenda Page: https://community.icann.org/x/WIOGBg
14:56:06 From LILIAN IVETTE DE LUQUE : hello everyone
14:56:40 From George Kirikos : Hi folks.
14:56:55 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : Hi all
14:57:22 From George Kirikos : Alas, Zoom doesn't seem to have custom colours for chat. :-(
14:57:32 From Andrea Glandon : @George, it does not
15:00:45 From Glenn : Hi all
15:01:42 From Glenn : I am here ...
15:01:57 From Evan Leibovitch : Ditto here.
15:02:24 From George Kirikos : Can the latest document be put up? No one sent it in PDF format, and I've not been able to read all of it.
15:02:35 From George Kirikos : (some words seemed to have disappeared)
15:02:47 From George Kirikos : Can it be emailed to the mailing list?
15:03:02 From Hadia : hello all
15:03:07 From Andrea Glandon : https://community.icann.org/x/WIOGBg
15:03:11 From Hadia : Thanks
15:03:13 From Glenn : Got it
15:03:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We are hearing the ES in the EN phine
15:03:42 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : phone
15:04:10 From Glenn : FYI Community blog site
15:04:11 From Glenn : https://icannatlarge.blog/
15:04:18 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thx Andrea
15:05:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : OCL you ok to CHair
15:07:20 From Greg Shatan : Echo echo echo echo
15:07:31 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : OK good to go?
15:08:42 From Judith Hellerstein : Can some one mute themselves as we are hearing people twice
15:10:33 From George Kirikos : Does Zoom show who is speaking?
15:10:36 From Andrea Glandon : The Zoom room will capture all participants who have joined
15:12:48 From Judith Hellerstein : @george it does show, if they are hooked up to the zoom audio
15:17:06 From Judith Hellerstein : It seems the adage operator needs to mute as this is what is causing the interference
15:17:17 From Judith Hellerstein : *adigo
15:18:33 From George Kirikos : It's not on the mailing list archives.
15:18:42 From George Kirikos : https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/cpwg/2019-May/date.html
15:19:05 From George Kirikos : Ideally, documents should be prepared at least 24 hours before a call.
15:19:12 From Evin Erdoğdu : @Hadia I have just received your presentation
15:19:18 From Evin Erdoğdu : Support team will load it
15:19:27 From George Kirikos : (with a goal of several days being even better)
15:19:29 From Judith Hellerstein : Great
15:19:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : thanks Hadia
15:20:11 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Surely we don't need to go over it again OCL Really?
15:20:27 From Internet Australia : Maybe just send the presentation to us all anyway
15:20:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Holly you are again listing as Internet Australie
15:20:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : please rename
15:21:15 From Hadia : ok sure - my mistake
15:21:22 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : no need for Hadia to repeat the update
15:22:07 From Andrea Glandon : We will post it to the wiki
15:22:13 From Andrea Glandon : Hadia’s presentation
15:22:17 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : Thanks staff
15:22:21 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : there will be LOTS more in EPDP in other calls I am sure
15:22:21 From Hadia : Thank you all - not much news
15:23:35 From Maureen Hilyard : Marita is our liaison to Brian's Governance group
15:23:35 From Marita Moll : I will volunteer to be a pen holder on the multistakeholder model comment
15:23:49 From Maureen Hilyard : Good idea Marita
15:23:53 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : Second Marita
15:24:22 From Judith Hellerstein : @marita I would like to help you as well
15:24:24 From George Kirikos : She is muted.
15:24:29 From George Kirikos : Bottom left.
15:25:41 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you @Marita and @Greg
15:25:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Agreed a small team might work well
15:26:02 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thanks @Judith
15:26:02 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : I would also like to help out
15:26:05 From Marita Moll : Yes, thanks for the help
15:26:19 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We do not usually comment on Label Genration Rules ... so IMO no need to change now
15:26:32 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : I would also like to help out on the Multistakeholder model
15:26:35 From Judith Hellerstein : @evin, AK also has volunteered
15:26:43 From Internet Australia : Agree with CLO on this issue
15:26:52 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you @Abdulkarim, noted
15:26:55 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : good suggestion Olivier
15:27:19 From Greg Shatan : Labels are so ... restrictive.
15:27:58 From Maureen Hilyard : I was going to say we normallly pass on this but we can confirm through the IDN group in case they find something to comment on
15:28:19 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I am not The WG just a member of
15:28:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Satishe et.al may differ in view... but you asked me if I had read it
15:28:59 From Maureen Hilyard : LOL Cheryl.. at least get their OK that we pass on it or not
15:29:31 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you Greg, here is the PC link:
15:29:32 From Evin Erdoğdu : https://www.icann.org/public-comments/streamlining-org-reviews-proposal-2019-04-30-en
15:29:38 From Evin Erdoğdu : We will create a workspace
15:29:42 From George Kirikos : https://www.icann.org/public-comments has all of them.
15:30:06 From George Kirikos : Say name before speaking, please.
15:30:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : may have got overlooked in the May 1 office closure
15:31:07 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : delayed no doubt and YES we should comment IMO
15:31:22 From Internet Australia : I’ll have a look
15:31:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thanks Internet AUstralia
15:31:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes we should
15:32:42 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I can offer later edit inpiut not initial drafting
15:33:46 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : concur with jonathan
15:33:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I like that plan JZ
15:34:04 From Internet Australia : agree with JZ
15:34:14 From Marita Moll : Okay, will try to keep it short
15:34:15 From Maureen Hilyard : I can't find that new policy issue on our policy table.. Where do I find it?
15:34:23 From Hadia : +1 jonathan
15:34:44 From Seun Ojedeji : Good idea Jonathan, it will save some ink and eraser
15:37:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : it's good to go from my POV @Maureen
15:37:33 From Evin Erdoğdu : @All please see At-Large workspace for the comment on Process Proposal for Streamlining Organizational Reviews - https://community.icann.org/x/LImGBg
15:37:58 From AlanGreenberg : Sorry to be late.
15:38:33 From George Kirikos : A .asia board member was penholder?
15:39:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes we all lnow that George we know her SOI well
15:39:48 From Holly Raiche : I
15:40:14 From Holly Raiche : m happy to be a pen holder for .ASIA if that deals with the issue
15:40:29 From George Kirikos : That's why folks recuse themselves, Cheryl.
15:40:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : it closes today Holly and there is NOTHING wrong or contaversial with the statement as is stands
15:41:06 From George Kirikos : I was unaware of it, but would have raised it immediately.
15:41:11 From George Kirikos : (as I just did)
15:41:25 From Holly Raiche : Agree CLO - just volunteering to deal with the conflict issue if that helps
15:41:30 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : well you would have needed to get support from the rest of us to force such a recusal\
15:41:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : we have plenty of checks and balances here
15:41:43 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : INDEED @Greg
15:42:17 From George Kirikos : The registry operators didn't comment on the .org renewal, expressly because of the conflict/competition/antitrust issues.
15:42:32 From George Kirikos : ICANN Board members recuse themselves routinely from discussions.
15:43:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and many good actors are deeply involved in working IN specific issues such as demonstatable re UA matters and this statement on .ASIA
15:43:04 From Maureen Hilyard : The comment is also more a commentary on what At-Large had supported hopefully in a more objective way than personal involvement
15:43:40 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Assign it as that as long as it is completed and finalised on time
15:43:49 From Judith Hellerstein : @olivier, Holly has offered to be the pen holder
15:43:55 From Holly Raiche : Agree with OCL - it would look better - even though I’m sure we all agree with what Maureen has said
15:43:56 From Marita Moll : Yes, let's do that Olivier -- reassign the penholder
15:44:19 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : you can assign it to anyone if your window decorating but the history here shows her contributins
15:44:29 From Holly Raiche : The reason I put my hand up is that I”m from the A
15:44:31 From Holly Raiche : PAC region
15:44:51 From Holly Raiche : ok
15:44:51 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : Fine by me
15:44:56 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : I think it might be fine as long asno one has any objection to the content. Changing the name at this momnet would look like something dodgy
15:45:00 From Holly Raiche : YES
15:45:01 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : I'd defer to Holly
15:45:10 From Holly Raiche : thanks
15:45:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : pen holders are hardly all powerful in drafting here
15:45:12 From Seun Ojedeji : I think Maureen should just take the feedback(as it doesn't look good and it's in the interest of Maureen herself) and let's move on so long as the statement was not feed from the feedback of .Asia Board.
15:45:19 From Evin Erdoğdu : Noted @Holly, thank you
15:45:22 From Holly Raiche : thanks
15:45:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : when is it to be handed over
15:45:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : it has to go via the ALAC
15:46:01 From Greg Shatan : .ASIA closes on 7 May
15:46:04 From Holly Raiche : will check with OCL on that
15:46:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : yup 4 days time
15:46:22 From Maureen Hilyard : Still time to make some alteration and addition
15:46:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : IF needed yes Maureen
15:48:28 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : No double standard. ICANN isn't a regulator.
15:49:03 From George Kirikos : You didn't address my question, John.
15:49:10 From Marita Moll : I don't think there has to be a connection, George, sorry
15:49:39 From George Kirikos : Why is the fee to ICANN paid by the registry pegged to inflation, according to one recommendation? But then uncapped (by some people's argument) elsewhere?
15:49:49 From George Kirikos : No underlying principle/argument behind that difference.
15:50:06 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : If we had a 3rd ;-)
15:50:25 From Hadia : yes alan
15:50:37 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : Argument to be made is that ICANN shouldn't control registrant/registry pricing (like a regulator). Pricing between ICANN and it's contracted parties is within it's control as a party to the transaction. Clear?
15:50:56 From George Kirikos : No, not clear.
15:51:21 From Evan Leibovitch : Clear to me
15:51:45 From Maureen Hilyard : Pricing agreements between ICANN and contracted parties are hardly end-user issues..
15:51:59 From christopher wilkinson : @John Laprise - it was quite clear in 1998 that ICANN would be responsible for the conditions of competition for Registries and Registrars. Call that a Regulator of not, as you wish.
15:52:12 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : the argument that's being told repeatedly to us by the ICANN CEO is that ICANN is not a regulator, but regulates its contracts
15:52:19 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : Sorry George, I'm expressing my understanding shaped by US FCC regulation of the US telecom market and pricing.
15:52:30 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : and ICANN is not a regulator.
15:53:28 From George Kirikos : Justification is a good principle. That should be in the document. Follow a principle.
15:54:06 From Holly Raiche : Thanks Alan for the background
15:54:17 From Evan Leibovitch : If it acts as a regulator and talks like a regulator and quacks like a regulator... it's ICANN, trying to suck and blow at the same time.
15:54:51 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : except as a legal entity, it isn't empowered as such...
15:55:35 From AlanGreenberg : A registry takes responsibility for the TLD and there is no basis for presuming that it is just a matter of operating a database. HOWEVER, that does not necessarily justify the price gouging that one does see on occasion.
16:00:45 From George Kirikos : 6.5 of https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/agreements/agreement-approved-31jul17-en.html
16:03:04 From Marita Moll : Getting off topic??
16:03:11 From Judith Hellerstein : Yes very much so
16:03:26 From Judith Hellerstein : We have a lot more to talk about
16:03:27 From Maureen Hilyard : We need to get Greg's statement endorsed by this group today and sent to ICANN by the end of the day..
16:03:33 From Judith Hellerstein : exactly
16:03:38 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : concur
16:04:21 From George Kirikos : Last week it was decided to not comment.
16:04:26 From George Kirikos : What's changed since last week?
16:04:44 From Holly Raiche : Agree
16:04:59 From Hadia : I agree - too much time is spent on this issue
16:05:17 From George Kirikos : Maybe we should have a preliminary question, whether or not to issue a statement, period?
16:05:21 From George Kirikos : That would save us time.
16:05:30 From Evan Leibovitch : Heh. Phone companies have rates set by *regulators*. But ICANN isn't a regulator...
16:05:33 From George Kirikos : Otherwise, we can invest time in going through it point by point.
16:05:45 From Judith Hellerstein : Justine is not on the call so let’s greg do it
16:06:23 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : concur
16:06:40 From Marita Moll : And maybe time restrictions on interventions otherwise we will never get through this
16:06:54 From christopher wilkinson : Leaving the call. I have a very early morning obligation tomorrow. I may return to these questions after I have had time to read all the documents and drafts and comments. (Tend to agree with Alan that this is an important economic issue, but I doubt the priority nor the influence of At Large in this particular context.) CW
16:07:36 From George Kirikos : I disagree that the background didn't need to be reviewed.
16:09:17 From George Kirikos : I'm the only one with a hand up.
16:09:52 From Judith Hellerstein : Can we put a timer on questions
16:10:03 From Judith Hellerstein : on people’s comments as we have no time
16:10:04 From Evan Leibovitch : Time check. 20 minutes on the call.
16:10:40 From Marita Moll : what has changed is hundreds of interventions on the list
16:10:44 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : Concur Greg
16:12:01 From George Kirikos : I'd like to go back to the history, then, if we're going to go through this document.
16:12:36 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : @George: not enough time to go to the history. Sorry but I do not have all day to devote to this topic
16:12:49 From George Kirikos : So much end user interest, that how many ALSes submitted their own comments?
16:12:50 From Marita Moll : I disagree with going back to the history. We need to talk about the substance
16:13:30 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : @George: ALSes work together for a common statement.
16:14:18 From Maureen Hilyard : Well make sure @George... majority of people on this call are ALS representatives.
16:15:22 From AlanGreenberg : Have to drop now. Sorry.
16:15:23 From Judith Hellerstein : Can we put timers on the interventions
16:15:33 From Evan Leibovitch : I see a decision on this particular set of comments as a possible precursor to a broader piece of ALAC advice to the Board on the topic of pricing.
16:15:36 From Marita Moll : This seems a bit like a filibuster -- there has been an enormous amount of support for the agreement on the table
16:16:26 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Of course not OCL
16:16:38 From Judith Hellerstein : Olivier I agree with you
16:16:45 From Evan Leibovitch : +1 Olivier
16:16:51 From George Kirikos : These are complex ideas, Marita, and I can't explain it in 10 seconds.
16:17:05 From George Kirikos : No filibuster.
16:17:40 From George Kirikos : What I was going to say was that once new gTLDs reacha a critical mass, they could migrate to the legacy gTLD contract.
16:17:51 From George Kirikos : That was suggested by one comment submission, and was sound.
16:18:04 From Evan Leibovitch : Not to me.
16:18:26 From Greg Shatan : George, I believe all of your points have been made in your interventions on the list.
16:18:54 From A-Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : Can we move forward to the rest of the statement
16:19:03 From Holly Raiche : Agree with the current statement
16:19:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes please
16:19:08 From Maureen Hilyard : Have we got a quorum of ALAC members on the call?
16:19:26 From Sivasubramanian M : How are legacy TLDs different from new gTLDs, w.r.t, for instance, Minimum Requirement for Rights protection? Because legacy TLDs have existing Registrations? If new gTLDs follow guidelines while registering new names, Legacy TLDs could apply the guidelines during renewal, or even across their Registration base over time, by notifying Registrants of the new Requirement from ICANN. How do companies apply GDPR rules that are new to their existing databases? The same way, legacy TLDs could move more and and more towards practices that are in harmony with all other TLDs - new, old and a subset of old, so called 'legacy' TLDs.
16:19:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : you have 8 by my count @Maureen
16:20:02 From Heidi Ullrich : That is my count, too, Cheryl
16:20:04 From Heidi Ullrich : quorum
16:20:18 From George Kirikos : Not a balanced summary, in my view.
16:21:03 From Maureen Hilyard : Ok so we can do a vote by the quorum and ask the other ALAC members after the meeting.
16:21:34 From George Kirikos : NCSG doesn't support the URS.
16:21:39 From George Kirikos : Selective quoting.
16:22:13 From Judith Hellerstein : Keep it in
16:22:24 From George Kirikos : She is muted.
16:23:09 From Judith Hellerstein : I support Greg and Justine
16:23:13 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : concur Marita
16:23:15 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Hear hear @Marita
16:23:26 From Bastiaan Goslings : Agree @Marita
16:23:26 From Evan Leibovitch : Getting a consensus on this issue at the meeting (noting that consensus does not demand unanimity) is reasonable here.
16:23:43 From Maureen Hilyard : I agree evan
16:23:52 From Judith Hellerstein : +1 Marita
16:24:10 From Holly Raiche : Normally, we do not follow what NCSG says, but in the context of saying this is one of many views - and we do have many views, let’s say so
16:24:15 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : Maureen. I'm asking you to seek a sense of the ALAC on this statement
16:24:15 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Indeed Evan
16:24:39 From Maureen Hilyard : Happy to do that John..
16:25:05 From Evan Leibovitch : If this was a more formal meeting, I'd call the question.
16:26:12 From George Kirikos : Yes/No.
16:26:40 From George Kirikos : There are hands. But, folks need to use Yes/No.
16:27:00 From Holly Raiche : I haven’t figured out how to do it, so put me down as a tick (green) yes rather than a no
16:27:00 From Evin Erdoğdu : ALAC members, please raise your hands / tick the box
16:27:01 From Judith Hellerstein : @george it is only for ALAC members
16:27:05 From Marita Moll : Or if you can't find the check mark, just put it in the chat
16:27:05 From George Kirikos : if it is only 8 people, do a roll call.
16:27:06 From Evin Erdoğdu : @Holly noted
16:27:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Next to you hand option
16:27:13 From George Kirikos : Orally might be easier.
16:27:25 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : when you pull out participans pod
16:27:31 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : at the bottom of the participant window
16:27:32 From sergio salinas porto LACRALO : only ALAC MEMBERS, IS CORRECT?
16:27:34 From George Kirikos : I see 3 yes. Might be easier to do a roll call.
16:27:36 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : correct
16:27:43 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : ALAC only
16:27:44 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes those on this call
16:27:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : are being polled
16:27:54 From sergio salinas porto LACRALO : Ok Jhon ythanks
16:27:57 From Heidi Ullrich : This is for ALAC only, please
16:28:05 From sergio salinas porto LACRALO : john
16:28:07 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : concur evan\
16:28:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : do both feel of the WG and then poll the ALAC
16:28:20 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : of course sergio :)
16:28:21 From Heidi Ullrich : And you need to go to the participants tab and click on the green tick or the red cross
16:28:25 From Marita Moll : Fair enough Even
16:28:26 From Judith Hellerstein : i put in my yes
16:28:28 From Seun Ojedeji : I think this should be the WG and not ALAC
16:28:48 From Ejikeme Egbuogu : agree
16:28:57 From Holly Raiche : Again - I am a yes
16:29:00 From Bastiaan Goslings : I’d like to hear from the entire WG, ie those who are on the call
16:29:21 From Bastiaan Goslings : hear = see red or green tick ;-)
16:29:29 From George Kirikos : Why not do it orally, then, via a roll call?
16:29:39 From George Kirikos : That's how GNSO COuncil does it.
16:29:42 From Seun Ojedeji : fyi am indifferent about the statement
16:30:03 From Liz Orembo : agreed- where do we put the ticks?
16:30:10 From George Kirikos : 38 participants, but nowhere near 19 Yes.
16:30:19 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We are polling here not voting as the WG
16:30:22 From George Kirikos : Now it's higher.
16:30:23 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : George...GNSO has its conventions, At Large has its own conventions. This isn't GNSO.
16:30:36 From A-Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : You have to look at the end of the participant list. There is the list fo thinks that you can do.
16:30:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : ALAC can poll or vote as it wishes under its RoPs
16:30:49 From George Kirikos : I see 12.
16:31:04 From Jose R. Lebron : I have no opinion
16:31:06 From Liz Orembo : great!
16:31:15 From Maureen Hilyard : Moving on to the next topic following this - staff will be taking not of ticks and comments in the chat
16:31:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Was it clear thispoll was for all in the CPWG
16:31:24 From Maureen Hilyard : Many thanks
16:31:33 From George Kirikos : Proudly in the "No" camp.
16:31:58 From Maureen Hilyard : Is that cup of coffee a yes or a no Evan??
16:32:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : moving on...
16:32:36 From Marita Moll : Overwhelming support?
16:32:38 From Evan Leibovitch : Yes to the proposal... and to coffee
16:33:03 From Marita Moll : Thanks Greg for stick handling that
16:33:48 From Seun Ojedeji : By for now goodnight from Naija
16:33:58 From Sebastien Bachollet : Not sure I am happy with uniformity when we talk about innovation in DNS with gTLDs
16:34:20 From Evan Leibovitch : Hard stop
16:34:27 From Evan Leibovitch : Thanks all.
16:35:22 From Judith Hellerstein : I think the list is here:
WHOIS accuracy, GDPR, EPDP2, Unified Access Model
SSR2, ATRT3, NomCom Review Implementation
Effectiveness of Specific Review recommendations and implementation
UA
Privacy and Proxy Implementation
DoH
Future of Multistakeholder Model of Governance
16:36:01 From Holly Raiche : I
16:36:09 From Alfredo Calderon (ISOCPR) : Have to leave. Bye to all.
16:36:12 From Holly Raiche : ll answer that on the email lilst
16:36:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Isn't that what OCL just said?
16:37:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : @Maureen indicated it had to be trimmed
16:37:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye @Alfredo
16:37:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : none from me
16:37:58 From A-Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : motion to close the meeting
16:38:02 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : move to close
16:38:08 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye for now then...
16:38:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : 3rd her inAU
16:39:30 From Ejikeme Egbuogu : bye
16:39:32 From John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO) : By all
16:39:36 From haroun mahamat cherif : tx u
16:39:46 From Bastiaan Goslings : thanks, bye all
16:39:53 From Marita Moll : Bye all and good call
16:39:55 From Hadia : bye all
16:39:56 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : Bye
16:39:58 From Gordon Chillcott : Sorry I came in quite late. Thanks and bye for now.
16:40:09 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you all
16:40:19 From Jose R. Lebron : Bye
16:40:23 From sergio salinas porto LACRALO : bye
16:40:25 From Maureen Hilyard : Bye all..
16:41:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Hell yes JZ
16:41:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye