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00:17:31    Gerardo Martínez Hernández:    hello, greetings to all, from Aguascalientes, Mexico
00:17:49    Hadia ElMiniawi:    Hello Gerardo and all
00:18:52    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    To follow along with the RTT:  https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
00:21:01    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Sorry t be late I had to extricate a possum from the wild bird seed bin...
00:22:29    Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond:    @Cheryl at least it was not a Boa or Python
00:24:34    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    :-)
00:24:37    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Makes sense because of holidays.
00:26:32    Herb Waye Ombuds:    Hello all
00:27:05    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    Hello, welcome Herb!
00:28:06    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    To follow along with the RTT:  https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
00:28:52    Steinar Grøtterød:    We want to prevent “Registrar jumping”
00:28:56    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Is the TTL for the TAC is different from the Lock? The lock is important as it acts as a deterrent for registrar hopping.
00:30:28    Lutz Donnerhacke:    yes, the ttl für the TAC is not a lock time
00:30:41    Sivasubramanian M:    @John and @Steiner  Why would a registrant jump from one Registar to another unless the Registrant has issues? It is not really fun to set up the domain with a new Registrar, and why would he or she unnecessarily do that?
00:30:43    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Thanks Lutz. Was beginning to wonder.
00:31:07    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @Siva Stolen domain names are often moved through various registrars.
00:31:29    Matthias M. Hudobnik:    I fully agree with you hadia
00:31:33    Justine Chew:    @Siva evasive move by bad actor
00:31:53    Sivasubramanian M:    @John,  if Registrar jumping specically alludes to stolen names, then it is a required safeguard.
00:32:07    Lutz Donnerhacke:    The malicious Actor (which is stealing a Domain Name after getting Hands on the TAC) is the Person who starts Registrar hopping. It's not the legal registrant
00:32:34    Hadia ElMiniawi:    +1  it is sufficient for UDRP
00:32:37    Sivasubramanian M:    At the time, the average Registrant needs to have hidden or subtle barriers lifted. so as not to feel trapped
00:32:43    Hadia ElMiniawi:    alan we can’t hear you
00:32:46    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    nope
00:32:56    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    yup
00:33:40    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    30 makes sense to me then
00:33:53    Hadia ElMiniawi:    I tend to agree with Alan
00:34:25    Jonathan Zuck:    so we need to suggest the 14 days is a minimum, not a maximum as specified.
00:34:46    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @Siva High value domain names are targets. The UDRP approach is a very wasteful and unreliable way of recovering them.
00:34:47    Justine Chew:    Who is supporting 60 days?
00:35:04    Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:    60 days are something without sense
00:35:09    Hadia ElMiniawi:    I heard Alan say 30 days
00:35:17    Lutz Donnerhacke:    I support 60 days
00:35:21    Laura Margolis:    I agree, 60 days is too long, 30 would be more than enough
00:35:23    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    It makes some sense but 30 might be a compromise value.
00:35:34    Sivasubramanian M:    @John Yes, processes such as UDRP does not redress the issues in a timely manner
00:37:05    Justine Chew:    @Siva, @John UDRP is a curative measure, the lock we're discussing is more towards preventive measure. Different sides of the coin.
00:38:35    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @Justine True but some registrants have had to use UDRPs to recover stolen doms. The 60 day lock is probably ideal but it may not be feasible.
00:38:52    Lutz Donnerhacke:    30 days is a goog compromise
00:39:55    Matthias M. Hudobnik:    60!
00:41:12    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    The numbers of transfer per month is much lower than the numbers of new/deleted/renewed domain names. It would be possible to generate some stats on transfer activity from the ICANN registry reports.
00:42:40    Lutz Donnerhacke:    Alan, do not advocate for thin regostry
00:43:01    Alan Greenberg:    @Lutz, NEVER!
00:43:17    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    :-)
00:43:19    Lutz Donnerhacke:    thick registries do not (Need to) publish the registrar
00:44:29    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    whois -n gets the basic DNS and registrar/IANAID data. That will change with RDAP. GDPR is a disaster for domain names.
00:44:47    Jonathan Zuck:    well, let's not jump to conclusions
00:45:12    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    Google doc link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hcG9ndNLJ0radzaNLM25c8DH-C7v28CmIgPLhCvv9do/edit#gid=0
00:45:20    Lutz Donnerhacke:    registry - Registrar is a b2b relation, which is not covered by GDPR
00:46:13    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @Lutz for gTLDs and most ccTLDs yes.
00:48:45    Hadia ElMiniawi:    Thank you Steiner
00:50:05    Steinar Grøtterød:    Draft wording for the input to the public comment for the TPR PDP: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-KLXoDldO-kQTjnufQ2cPpOb3AL3cYWqrExOgWyNyTo/edit?usp=sharing
00:51:23    Jonathan Zuck:    Justine I see your hand now
00:51:38    Justine Chew:    no worries
00:52:53    Jonathan Zuck:    agree. Let's let it go
00:53:36    Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond:    good point Justine
00:54:36    Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond:    We could devote most of the time next week on Closed Generics
00:55:07    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    WOW  that *is* short notice!
00:56:10    avri doria:    FYI: Since Sebastien in on the phone, the Pilot Holistic Review Tor comment is currently scheduled to start in August & conclude in September following 75.
00:57:12    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Thaks for the dates @Avri
00:57:43    Jonathan Zuck:    yes, small team discussions perhaps better than a full blown meeting
00:57:45    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    is the OEC planning on running a session on the PC in #75 then?
00:59:03    avri doria:    not sure, would have to check if the Org has such a plan.
00:59:22    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Noted  we can follow up then
00:59:43    Justine Chew:    Noted @SeB
01:00:24    Justine Chew:    I will speak to you @SeB offline to formulate something we want to ask GNSO
01:02:53    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    Staff are looking for the plenary session recommendations
01:03:06    Steinar Grøtterød:    At some time, we should organise a session about Best Practice for domain name management for "unprofessional" end-users (aka Domain Name Management for Dummies”)
01:03:34    Marita Moll:    I missed most of Seb's input as someone started up a chainsaw next door
01:04:17    Jonathan Zuck:    I'm dealing with leaf blowers, Marita
01:04:36    Chokri Ben Romdhane:    based on +Marita proposals I suggest the following topic  did the MSM could follow the new technology evolvement
01:04:50    Hadia ElMiniawi:    Ok
01:05:28    Raymond Mamattah:    Hi everyone, good evening from Ghana.
01:06:50    Jonathan Zuck:    are you thinking of a kind of read out of what's happening?
01:07:12    Hadia ElMiniawi:    +1 Olivier I was also thinking about this but I thought you might think we have been addressing this issue too many time
01:07:15    Hadia ElMiniawi:    times
01:07:27    Marita Moll:    Is there going to be a standing public session on Internet Governance.
01:08:44    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    But would that be a plenary  or just one of our own session
01:08:49    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    For ICANN75, yes, there is a Geopolitical session already scheduled (it’s now a reoccuring meeting)
01:09:17    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Inrternal first  I agree
01:09:20    Marita Moll:    That's what I was thinking about -- a standing session
01:09:37    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    the Geo political as standing session makes sense
01:10:28    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    and IG  should indeed slot in there  IMO
01:10:44    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Apart form the technical issues, the main problem with IDNs is getting people to use them.
01:11:25    Justine Chew:    @JZ @CLO, absolutely, internal discussion first.
01:11:33    Isaac Apenteng:    Hi
01:11:33    Hadia ElMiniawi:    sounds good
01:11:40    Marita Moll:    Okay, I will send something in the next couple of days
01:11:46    Justine Chew:    I have to drop, thanks all.
01:12:35    Jonathan Zuck:    Marita, we don't have 2 days. Probably need to decide about it tomorrow
01:12:49    Marita Moll:    Okay, no pressure, right
01:13:10    Marita Moll:    tomorrow morning -- I am out tonight
01:15:56    Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond:    ICANN 75 meeting pages are already in existence. https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ICANN75+-+September+2022%3A+Annual+General+Meeting
01:16:35    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    That compromised vs malicious regs topic was not great because most compromised sites evade that methodology because they are not used for DNS abuse.
01:16:57    Samuel kwasi Danso:    Good evening everyone.  my name is Samuel Kwasi Danso. A member of EGIGFA ALS from Ghana. Happy to be here
01:17:33    Jonathan Zuck:    any other, other business!
01:17:41    Hadia ElMiniawi:    Thank you all bye for today
01:17:50    Herb Waye Ombuds:    Take care everyone, stay safe and be kind
01:18:07    Chokri Ben Romdhane:    thanks all and sorry for being late stay safe
01:18:09    Raymond Mamattah:    Welcome Samuel. You are coming to give us the vote of thanks lol
01:18:19    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Bye for now everyone...
01:18:22    Matthias M. Hudobnik:    Thxs and bye
01:18:24    Hadia ElMiniawi:    bye
01:18:26    Raymond Mamattah:    Byeeee
01:18:29    Mouloud Khelif - ICANN73 Fellow:    Thanks everyone
01:18:31    Alberto Soto:    Thanks Bye Bye!!
01:18:35    Alhassan Mohamed Awal:    Kindly reshare the link. i missed it
01:18:39    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    Thank you so much everyone for joining today's At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group call today!
01:18:39    Roberto Gaetano:    Bye all
01:18:43    Samuel kwasi Danso:    thank you Raymond and bye
01:18:43    Laura Margolis:    Thank you all! Bye!
01:18:47    Isaac Apenteng:    Thanks everyone bye
01:18:51    Isaac Maposa:    Thank you. Bye everyone.
01:18:52    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    Thank you, Claudia is my guide 
01:18:58    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Thanks and later all.
01:19:00    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Great Team
01:19:02    Claudia Ruiz - ICANN Org:    Yay, Chantelle! 
01:19:13    Love Aid:    Thank you
01:19:15    Raymond Mamattah:    Congrates Chantelle
01:19:24    Chantelle Doerksen - ICANN Org:    Goodbye everyone!
01:19:29    Alhassan Mohamed Awal:    Please, the link that was shared not long ago