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Position

...

Description

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for

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ALAC

...

Members

...

and

...

ALAC

...

Liaisons

...

1.0

...

Nominees

...

for

...

membership

...

in

...

the

...

At-Large

...

Advisory

...

Committee,

...

as

...

well

...

as

...

those

...

seeking

...

a

...

position

...

as

...

an

...

ALAC

...

Liaison,

...

should

...

be

...

accomplished

...

persons

...

of

...

integrity,

...

objectivity,

...

sound

...

judgment

...

and

...

intelligence

...

who

...

have:

...

1.1

...

A

...

commitment

...

to

...

ICANN's

...

mission

...

and

...

its

...

core

...

values

...

as

...

expressed

...

in

...

the

...

ICANN

...

Bylaws;

1.2

...

An

...

understanding

...

of

...

the

...

potential

...

impact

...

of

...

ICANN

...

decisions

...

on

...

the

...

global

...

Internet-using

...

community,

...

and

...

the

...

Internet

...

end-user

...

community

...

in

...

particular.

1.3

...

An

...

understanding

...

of

...

the

...

Domain

...

Name

...

System

...

(DNS)

...

and

...

the

...

basics

...

of

...

IP

...

addressing.

...

This

...

is

...

not

...

to

...

say

...

that

...

candidates

...

should

...

be

...

technical

...

DNS

...

experts,

...

but

...

a

...

minimal

...

understanding

...

of

...

the

...

DNS

...

is

...

needed

...

to

...

effectively

...

function

...

on

...

the

...

ALAC.

...

For

...

example,

...

candidates

...

for

...

the

...

ALAC

...

should

...

know

...

the

...

answer

...

to

...

a

...

question

...

such

...

as

...

"Do

...

you

...

know

...

what

...

happens

...

in

...

the

...

DNS

...

when

...

you

...

send

...

an

...

email,

...

or

...

access

...

a

...

webpage?"

...

This

...

requires

...

an

...

understanding

...

of

...

the

...

general

...

process

...

of

...

name

...

resolution.

1.4

...

Demonstrated

...

capacity

...

for

...

thoughtful

...

group

...

decision-making

...

and

...

sound

...

judgment,

...

and

...

a

...

track

...

record

...

of

...

working

...

to

...

build

...

consensus

...

with

...

a

...

diverse

...

set

...

of

...

interests

...

working

...

together

...

on

...

complex

...

policy

...

issues.1.5

...

ALAC

...

members

...

and

...

liaisons,

...

along

...

with

...

the

...

At-Large

...

community

...

of

...

which

...

it

...

is

...

a

...

part,

...

are

...

charged

...

with

...

representing

...

the

...

interests

...

of

...

the

...

entire

...

1.5

...

billion

...

Internet

...

end-users

...

of

...

the

...

world

...

in

...

ICANN’s

...

processes.

...

As

...

a

...

result,

...

candidates

...

for

...

ALAC

...

membership

...

or

...

a

...

liaison

...

post

...

should

...

have

...

a

...

demonstrated

...

capacity

...

to

...

represent

...

the

...

views

...

of

...

others

...

effectively,

...

and

...

generally

...

refrain

...

from

...

advocating

...

in

...

support

...

of

...

personal

...

opinions.

...

*

...

(AP,AG:

...

Move

...

to

...

top

...

of

...

list.

...

ALAC

...

members

...

should

...

act

...

as

...

conduits

...

in

...

both

...

directions

...

) (AG,PVW,CS,CA:

...

Remove

...

1.5b

...

and

...

soften)

1.6

...

The

...

ability

...

to

...

effectively

...

chair

...

meetings

...

and

...

provide

...

leadership

...

and

...

support

...

for

...

work

...

teams

...

or

...

committees.

1.7

...

A

...

willingness

...

to

...

serve

...

as

...

a

...

volunteer,

...

without

...

compensation

...

other

...

than

...

the

...

reimbursement

...

of

...

certain

...

expenses.

1.8

...

In

...

accordance

...

with

...

the

...

recent

...

ALAC

...

review

...

recommendations

...

as

...

adopted

...

by

...

the

...

ICANN

...

Board,

...

members

...

of

...

ALAC

...

must

...

have

...

proficiency

...

in

...

written

...

and

...

spoken

...

English

...

to

...

allow

...

the

...

committee

...

to

...

function

...

effectively

...

and

...

to

...

allow

...

ALAC

...

members

...

to

...

interact

...

effectively

...

within

...

the

...

overall

...

ICANN

...

environment.

...

Time

...

Commitment

...

and

...

Working

...

Practice

...

2.0

...

Membership

...

in

...

the

...

At-Large

...

Advisory

...

Committee

...

is

...

a

...

substantial

...

commitment

...

of

...

one’s

...

time

...

as

...

a

...

volunteer.

...

The

...

basic

...

responsibilities

...

of

...

an

...

ALAC

...

member

...

involve

...

a

...

minimum

...

of

...

25

...

hours

...

per

...

month

...

on

...

core

...

Committee

...

related

...

activities.

...

(AG,AP,PVW:

...

It

...

should

...

be

...

made

...

clear

...

that

...

this

...

time

...

commitment

...

is

...

over

...

and

...

above

...

the

...

requirement

...

to

...

attend

...

the

...

three

...

ICANN

...

meetings

...

per

...

year.

...

We

...

also

...

need

...

to

...

add

...

that

...

teleconferences

...

include

...

participants

...

from

...

all

...

of

...

ICANN’s

...

regions,

...

and

...

as

...

such

...

will

...

inevitably

...

occur

...

during

...

working

...

hours

...

for

...

some

...

ALAC

...

members,

...

and

...

during

...

evening

...

or

...

early

...

morning

...

hours

...

for

...

others.

...

Although

...

attempts

...

are

...

made

...

to

...

lessen

...

this

...

impact,

...

ALAC

...

members

...

should

...

be

...

reasonably

...

flexible

...

regarding

...

scheduling

...

of

...

conference

...

calls

...

given

...

reasonable

...

advance

...

notice.

...

)(AP,CS,GS:

...

too

...

much

...

to

...

expect

...

) (PVW:

...

Specify

...

actual

...

time

...

of

...

teleconference

...

) (AG:

...

NomCom

...

says

...

base

...

=18

...

and

...

Liason

...

more.

...

GNSO=20

...

with

...

up

...

to

...

60

...

if

...

take

...

on

...

additional

...

tasks

...

) (AG:

...

not

...

put

...

call

...

time

...

here,

...

not

...

stable

...

enough)

2.1

...

Additionally,

...

each

...

ALAC

...

member

...

leads,

...

co-leads,

...

or

...

participates

...

in

...

one

...

or

...

more

...

working

...

groups

...

on

...

policy

...

issues,

...

which

...

will

...

involve

...

an

...

additional

...

average

...

10

...

hours

...

per

...

month

...

in

...

reading

...

documents,

...

drafting

...

proposed

...

responses,

...

and

...

attending

...

teleconferences

...

and

...

participating

...

in

...

email

...

and

...

other

...

electronic

...

correspondence

...

related

...

to

...

those

...

working

...

groups.

...

2.2

...

The

...

ALAC

...

has

...

minimum

...

participation

...

requirements

...

that

...

all

...

members

...

are

...

expected

...

to

...

meet,

...

and

...

members’

...

participation

...

statistics

...

are

...

published

...

for

...

the

...

At-Large

...

community

...

and

...

the

...

rest

...

of

...

ICANN

...

to

...

review.

...

Expectations

...

for

...

participation

...

include

...

the

...

following:

...

2.3

...

Attend

...

and

...

actively

...

participate

...

in

...

monthly

...

ALAC

...

teleconferences,

...

not

...

missing

...

more

...

than

...

one-third

...

of

...

these

...

meetings

...

in

...

any

...

rolling

...

six-month

...

period;

...

(AG,EL,PVW,CS,CA,GS:

...

Delete

...

2nd

...

phrase)

2.4

...

Participate

...

actively

...

in

...

policy

...

issues

...

and

...

other

...

working

...

groups.

...

Each

...

ALAC

...

member

...

is

...

expected

...

to

...

help

...

lead

...

at

...

least

...

one

...

working

...

group

...

composed

...

of

...

members

...

of

...

At-Large

...

working

...

on

...

policy

...

issues.

...

A

...

current

...

listing

...

of

...

working

...

group

...

and

...

the

...

remit

...

of

...

each

...

may

...

be

...

found

...

at

...

https://

...

community.icann.org/

...

display/atlarge/At-Large+Working+Groups. *(AG,AP,PVW:

...

replace

...

is

...

expected

...

to

...

with

...

will

...

typically

...

) (AG,AP:

...

use

...

more

...

general

...

statement) (EL,CS,GS:

...

keep

...

as

...

is,

...

add

...

required

...

to

...

report

...

at

...

ALAC

...

meetings) (AG:

...

not

...

everyone

...

is

...

a

...

leader,

...

add

...

admin

...

responsibilities)

2.5

...

Voting

...

regularly

...

in

...

ALAC

...

ballots

...

on

...

various

...

subjects

...

(at

...

a

...

minimum,

...

in

...

¾

...

of

...

all

...

ballots

...

conducted).

...

ALAC

...

vote

...

results

...

are

...

published

...

and

...

publication

...

includes

...

a

...

record

...

of

...

how

...

each

...

member

...

voted,

...

excepting

...

where

...

the

...

balloting

...

relates

...

to

...

election

...

of

...

ALAC

...

officers

...

or

...

liaisons.

...

(AG,EL,AP,PVW,CS,CA,GS:

...

Remove

...

explicit

...

target

...

) (AP,AG:Vote

...

in

...

ALAC

...

ballots

...

to

...

adopt

...

policy

...

statements

...

and

...

other

...

work

...

of

...

the

...

ALAC,

...

and

...

the

...

elections

...

of

...

officers

...

and

...

other

...

positions.}

...

{PVW:

...

Voting

...

for

...

ALAC

...

not

...

Liaisons)

2.6

...

Attend

...

ICANN's

...

three

...

face-to-face

...

meetings

...

each

...

year,

...

which

...

generally

...

run

...

about

...

7

...

days

...

with

...

Committee

...

members

...

having

...

extensive

...

responsibilities

...

on

...

most

...

days.

...

It

...

is

...

understood

...

that

...

events

...

may

...

transpire

...

to

...

prevent

...

attendance

...

in

...

person

...

from

...

time

...

to

...

time,

...

in

...

which

...

case

...

participation

...

remotely

...

via

...

two-way

...

telephonic

...

links

...

is

...

strongly

...

encouraged.

...

There

...

may

...

occasionally

...

be

...

additional

...

face-to-face

...

interim

...

meetings

...

or

...

regional

...

meetings.

2.7

...

Reading

...

and

...

commenting

...

in

...

At-Large’s

...

mailing

...

lists

...

and

...

other

...

communications

...

media.

...

*

...

(AG,AP,PVW:

...

ALAC

...

and

...

At-Large

...

mailing

...

lists)

2.8

...

For

...

elected

...

ALAC

...

members,

...

participation

...

at

...

monthly

...

teleconferences

...

and

...

intercessional

...

activities

...

of

...

the

...

At-Large

...

community

...

in

...

the

...

region

...

that

...

elected

...

him

...

or

...

her

...

is

...

expected.

...

For

...

Nominating

...

Committee-appointed

...

ALAC

...

members,

...

participation

...

in

...

the

...

monthly

...

teleconferences

...

and

...

intercessional

...

activities

...

of

...

the

...

region

...

the

...

ALAC

...

member

...

was

...

appointed

...

by

...

the

...

NomCom

...

for

...

is

...

expected.

...

*

...

(AG,PVW:

...

for

...

NomCom

...

appointed,

...

participation

...

is

...

optional

...

but

...

highly

...

recommended

...

) (EL,AP,CS,CA,GS:

...

As

...

is)

2.9

...

ALAC

...

Liaisons

...

are

...

expected

...

to

...

attend

...

and

...

participate

...

in

...

ALAC

...

meetings,

...

provide

...

updates

...

on

...

their

...

activities

...

as

...

liaisons,

...

attend

...

the

...

meetings

...

of

...

the

...

body

...

they

...

are

...

a

...

liaison

...

to

...

(the

...

“receiving

...

body”),

...

participate

...

effectively

...

as

...

an

...

advocate

...

for

...

At-Large

...

in

...

the

...

receiving

...

body,

...

and

...

where

...

necessary

...

propose

...

responses

...

from

...

the

...

ALAC

...

to

...

the

...

receiving

...

body

...

on

...

policy

...

or

...

other

...

questions.

...

*

...

(BB:

...

Board

...

liaison

...

should

...

not

...

put

...

forward

...

personal

...

opinions)
(PVW:

...

ALAC

...

and

...

Liaison

...

should

...

represent

...

ALAC,

...

At-Large

...

and

...

their

...

positions

...

in

...

non-ICANN

...

environments)(AG:

...

perhaps

...

encourage

...

but

...

not

...

require

...

-

...

not

...

everyone

...

is

...

a

...

salesman)

...

Comments

Comments from Alan Greenberg

2.0

...

It

...

should

...

be

...

made

...

clear

...

that

...

this

...

time

...

commitment

...

is

...

over

...

and

...

above

...

the

...

requirement

...

to

...

attend

...

the

...

three

...

ICANN

...

meetings

...

per

...

year.

...

We

...

also

...

need

...

to

...

add

...

that

...

teleconferences

...

include

...

participants

...

from

...

all

...

of

...

ICANN’s

...

regions,

...

and

...

as

...

such

...

will

...

inevitably

...

occur

...

during

...

working

...

hours

...

for

...

some

...

ALAC

...

members,

...

and

...

during

...

evening

...

or

...

early

...

morning

...

hours

...

for

...

others.

...

Although

...

attempts

...

are

...

made

...

to

...

lessen

...

this

...

impact,

...

ALAC

...

members

...

should

...

be

...

reasonably

...

flexible

...

regarding

...

scheduling

...

of

...

conference

...

calls

...

given

...

reasonable

...

advance

...

notice.

...

2.3

...

My

...

inclination

...

is

...

to

...

remove

...

the

...

second

...

phrase.

...

It

...

almost

...

gives

...

people

...

permission

...

to

...

miss

...

1/3,

...

and

...

that

...

is

...

not

...

the

...

message

...

that

...

we

...

wish

...

to

...

send.

...

We

...

can

...

still

...

flag

...

people

...

in

...

the

...

reports

...

who

...

exceed

...

some

...

threshold.

...

2.4

...

I

...

would

...

replace

...

“is

...

expected

...

to”

...

with

...

“will

...

typically”.

...

Also

...

I

...

question

...

whether

...

we

...

have

...

enough

...

ongoing

...

WG

...

to

...

have

...

everyone

...

do

...

this.

...

I

...

guess

...

I

...

would

...

prefer

...

a

...

more

...

general

...

statement

...

about

...

working

...

on

...

ALAC

...

and

...

other

...

ICANN

...

WG

...

and

...

taking

...

a

...

lead

...

position

...

in

...

at

...

least

...

one.

...

But

...

since

...

"being

...

a

...

WG

...

member"

...

often

...

is

...

nothing

...

more

...

than

...

subscribing

...

to

...

a

...

mailing

...

list,

...

we

...

need

...

to

...

have

...

some

...

words

...

that

...

imply

...

real

...

participation.

...

2.5

...

Again,

...

I

...

would

...

remove

...

the

...

explicit

...

target.

...

2.7

...

I

...

would

...

say

...

"ALAC

...

and

...

At-Large

...

mailing

...

lists".

...

2.8

...

I

...

would

...

suggest

...

that

...

for

...

NomCom

...

appointed

...

ALAC

...

members,

...

the

...

RALO

...

activities

...

are

...

optional

...

but

...

highly

...

recommended.

...

contributed

...

by

...

Alan

...

Greenberg

...

on

...

Jul

...

27

...

9:01pm

...

...

Comments from Evan Leibovitch

I agree with Alan's

...

comments

...

about

...

removing

...

explicit

...

measurement-based

...

performance

...

targets;

...

that

...

is

...

not

...

the

...

point

...

of

...

this

...

document.

...

I

...

disagree

...

strongly

...

with

...

Alan

...

on

...

2.4

...

and

...

2.8

...

and

...

request

...

the

...

original

...

wording

...

be

...

maintained

...

as-is.

...

  • On

...

  • 2.4:

...

  • there

...

  • is

...

  • plenty

...

  • of

...

  • work

...

  • for

...

  • WGs

...

  • to

...

  • do...

...

  • arguably

...

  • an

...

  • ExecComm

...

  • wouldn't

...

  • need

...

  • to

...

  • exist

...

  • if

...

  • administrative

...

  • working

...

  • groups

...

  • did

...

  • their

...

  • jobs

...

  • adequately.

...

  • Likewise

...

  • there

...

  • is

...

  • plenty

...

  • of

...

  • policy

...

  • work

...

  • that

...

  • doesn't

...

  • get

...

  • done

...

  • because

...

  • we

...

  • don't

...

  • have

...

  • working

...

  • groups

...

  • to

...

  • follow

...

  • the

...

  • issues.

...

  • We

...

  • need

...

  • ALAC

...

  • to

...

  • maintain

...

  • the

...

  • momentum

...

  • created

...

  • at

...

  • the

...

  • Summit

...

  • and

...

  • the

...

  • original

...

  • wording

...

  • of

...

  • 2.4

...

  • does

...

  • that.

...

  • In

...

  • fact,

...

  • given

...

  • the

...

  • choice

...

  • I

...

  • would

...

  • strengthen,

...

  • so

...

  • that

...

  • each

...

  • ALAC

...

  • member

...

  • is

...

  • assigned

...

  • to

...

  • report

...

  • to

...

  • ALAC

...

  • meetings

...

  • on

...

  • the

...

  • activities

...

  • of

...

  • a

...

  • designated

...

  • liaison

...

  • or

...

  • working

...

  • group.
  • On 2.8:

...

  • A

...

  • NomComm

...

  • ALAC

...

  • appointee

...

  • may

...

  • not

...

  • be

...

  • accountable

...

  • to

...

  • their

...

  • region

...

  • but

...

  • they

...

  • should

...

  • be

...

  • expected

...

  • to

...

  • be

...

  • aware

...

  • of

...

  • their

...

  • region's

...

  • concerns

...

  • and

...

  • priorities.

...

  • It

...

  • is

...

  • reasonable

...

  • to

...

  • demand

...

  • their

...

  • presence

...

  • at

...

  • RALO

...

  • meetings.

...

contributed

...

by

...

Evan

...

Leibovitch

...

on

...

Jul

...

27

...

11:27pm

...

...

Section 1.

...

Suggest

...

moving

...

1.5

...

to

...

the

...

first

...

entry:

...

ALAC's

...

first

...

commitment

...

is

...

to

...

the

...

individual

...

Internet

...

user.

...

Core

...

duty

...

of

...

ALAC

...

should

...

be

...

to

...

ensure

...

that

...

individual

...

Internet

...

users

...

have

...

a

...

voice

...

in

...

ICANN.

...

We

...

should

...

be

...

making

...

effort

...

or

...

ensure

...

the

...

ALS/RALO

...

model

...

functions,

...

that

...

individual

...

users

...

are

...

informed

...

of

...

ICANN

...

activities

...

and

...

have

...

opportunity

...

to

...

contribute

...

to

...

those

...

activities.

...

Section

...

2,

...

time

...

commitment:

...

general

...

comment:

...

At

...

a

...

rough

...

estimate,

...

the

...

total

...

time

...

commitment

...

suggested

...

is

...

about

...

70

...

working

...

days

...

each

...

year

...

(at

...

8

...

hours/day:

...

25

...

hours/month,

...

plus

...

an

...

additional

...

10

...

hours/month

...

highly

...

likely,

...

plus

...

3

...

meetings

...

which

...

including

...

travel

...

will

...

average

...

at

...

around

...

8-9

...

days

...

...

...

not

...

counting

...

any

...

recovery

...

time

...

for

...

jet

...

lag,

...

and

...

not

...

including

...

any

...

regional

...

meetings,

...

etc).

...

First,

...

this

...

is

...

too

...

much

...

for

...

any

...

voluntary

...

position.

...

Second,

...

if

...

this

...

is

...

what

...

an

...

ALAC

...

member

...

needs

...

to

...

do

...

then

...

the

...

model

...

of

...

individual/ALS/RALO/ALAC/ICANN

...

Community

...

has

...

failed.

...

We

...

are

...

not

...

the

...

representatives

...

of

...

1.5

...

billion

...

people...

...

we

...

attempt

...

to

...

ensure

...

that

...

the

...

views

...

of

...

individual

...

Internet

...

users

...

as

...

expressed

...

through

...

the

...

ALS/RALO

...

structure

...

are

...

represented

...

in

...

ICANN.

...

About

...

Alan's

...

comments:

...

agree

...

with

...

2.0

...

(other

...

than

...

concern

...

the

...

commitment

...

is

...

too

...

much),

...

2.4,

...

2.7.

...

2.3

...

and

...

2.5,

...

I

...

think

...

we

...

need

...

to

...

indicated

...

some

...

performance

...

measure,

...

but

...

perhaps

...

the

...

actual

...

%

...

can

...

be

...

in

...

a

...

separate

...

document.

...

2.5,

...

suggest

...

change

...

the

...

first

...

sentence

...

to

...

"Vote

...

in

...

ALAC

...

ballots

...

to

...

adopt

...

policy

...

statements

...

and

...

other

...

work

...

of

...

the

...

ALAC,

...

and

...

the

...

elections

...

of

...

officers

...

and

...

other

...

positions."

...

2.8

...

Agree

...

with

...

Evan.

...

I

...

joined

...

as

...

a

...

NomCom

...

appointee

...

with

...

the

...

expectation

...

I

...

would

...

participate

...

as

...

the

...

paragraph

...

describes.

...

contributed

...

by

...

Adam

...

Peake

...

on

...

Jul

...

28

...

2:31am

...

...

Agree with Alan on most comments. WRT 2.8,

...

it

...

is

...

indeed

...

nice

...

if

...

the

...

nomcom-selected

...

members

...

participates

...

in

...

the

...

RALO,

...

but

...

that

...

should

...

not

...

be

...

compulsory.

...

Agree

...

with

...

Alan

...

on

...

the

...

need

...

to

...

inform

...

on

...

the

...

schedule

...

of

...

teleconference,

...

but

...

would

...

suggest

...

to

...

spell

...

out

...

explicitly

...

that

...

it

...

is

...

at

...

14UTC

...

every

...

last

...

Tuesday

...

of

...

the

...

month.

...

This

...

could

...

be

...

problematic

...

for

...

some

...

people

...

if

...

they

...

find

...

out

...

too

...

late.

...

Agree

...

with

...

Adam

...

that

...

we

...

do

...

not

...

represent

...

1.5bn

...

people.

...

This

...

is

...

either

...

arrogant

...

or

...

naive,

...

depending

...

on

...

one's

...

view.

...

Agree

...

with

...

Adam

...

on

...

expected

...

time

...

commitments

...

and

...

that

...

we

...

should

...

move

...

KPIs

...

to

...

another

...

document.

...

2.5

...

Voting

...

regularly

...

in

...

ALAC

...

ballots

...

is

...

only

...

for

...

ALAC

...

members,

...

not

...

for

...

the

...

board

...

liaison.

...

We

...

might

...

want

...

to

...

state

...

it

...

explicitly.

...

I

...

would

...

add

...

a

...

2.10

...

bullet

...

about

...

advocating

...

At-large

...

positions

...

in

...

other

...

fora.

...

The

...

current

...

description

...

is

...

entirely

...

ALAC-centric.

...

We

...

need

...

people

...

who

...

talk

...

about

...

At-Large

...

also

...

outside

...

the

...

ICANN

...

environment.

...

This

...

is

...

another

...

way

...

to

...

recruit.

...

contributed

...

by

...

Patrick

...

Vande

...

Walle

...

on

...

Jul

...

28

...

5:40am

...

...

I agree with Evan's

...

perspective

...

right

...

down

...

the

...

line.

...

I

...

take

...

Adam's

...

perspective

...

that

...

expectation

...

of

...

a

...

70

...

day/year

...

voluntary

...

commitment

...

could

...

be

...

problematic

...

and

...

needs

...

revision.

...

In

...

fact,

...

if

...

one

...

calculated

...

and

...

quantified

...

the

...

time

...

to

...

read

...

and

...

understand

...

documents

...

so

...

you

...

can

...

make

...

sensible

...

interventions

...

in

...

his

...

projections,

...

that

...

number

...

could

...

easily

...

double

...

!

...

If

...

you

...

work

...

at

...

a

...

FT

...

job

...

that

...

is

...

a

...

helluva

...

lot

...

of

...

volunteering

...

to

...

do.

...

Vacation

...

days

...

are

...

almost

...

always

...

invested

...

as

...

common

...

public

...

goods;

...

I

...

know

...

because

...

I

...

have

...

to

...

use

...

my

...

vacation

...

days

...

to

...

attend

...

ICANN

...

meetings.

...

I

...

have

...

always

...

believe

...

that

...

the

...

way

...

to

...

address

...

the

...

time

...

commitment

...

is

...

to

...

cherry-pick

...

our

...

issues

...

and

...

battles.

...

AG:

...

Agree

...

with

...

last

...

sentence

...

but

...

not

...

part

...

of

...

PD

...

Labeling

...

is

...

important

...

to

...

selling.

...

So

...

while

...

I

...

understand

...

the

...

instinct

...

to

...

label

...

ALAC

...

as

...

representing

...

1.5Bn

...

Internet

...

users,

...

I

...

agree

...

with

...

Patrick

...

that

...

taking

...

this

...

seriously

...

could

...

be

...

construed

...

as

...

arrogant

...

or

...

naive,

...

depending.

...

Carlton

...

Samuels

...

contributed

...

by

...

carlton.samuels

...

on

...

Jul

...

29

...

8:22am

...

...

Some additional thoughts.

1.5

...

I

...

agree

...

with

...

Adam

...

that

...

this

...

should

...

be

...

moved

...

up.

...

Although

...

the

...

wording

...

does

...

not

...

say

...

that

...

we

...

represent

...

1.5

...

billion

...

users

...

(as

...

suggested

...

in

...

Patrick's

...

comments),

...

but

...

rather

...

that

...

we

...

represent

...

their

...

interest

...

-

...

,

...

I

...

agree

...

that

...

the

...

statement

...

is

...

a

...

bit

...

much.

...

I

...

would

...

certainly

...

omit

...

the

...

number:

...

it

...

is

...

time

...

sensitive,

...

and

...

the

...

accuracy

...

of

...

it

...

at

...

any

...

point

...

in

...

time

...

is

...

actually

...

highly

...

questionable.

...

-

...

Section

...

2

...

workload.

...

I

...

agree

...

that

...

when

...

you

...

add

...

up

...

the

...

numbers,

...

it

...

is

...

too

...

large,

...

but

...

We

...

do

...

need

...

to

...

put

...

-

...

something

...

-

...

there.

...

What?

...

I

...

note

...

that

...

in

...

the

...

current

...

NomCom

...

documentation,

...

it

...

gives

...

18

...

hours

...

per

...

month

...

with

...

more

...

for

...

those

...

who

...

are

...

Liaisons

...

and

...

this

...

is

...

clearly

...

excluding

...

the

...

3

...

ICANN

...

meetings.

...

For

...

another

...

slant

...

on

...

it,

...

the

...

current

...

NomCom

...

specs

...

for

...

the

...

GNSO

...

say:-The

...

basic

...

responsibilities

...

of

...

a

...

GNSO

...

Council

...

member

...

involve

...

a

...

minimum

...

of

...

20

...

hours

...

per

...

month

...

on

...

Council

...

related

...

activities,

...

with

...

those

...

chairing

...

or

...

participating

...

in

...

committees

...

or

...

task

...

forces

...

spending

...

up

...

to

...

60

...

hours

...

a

...

month

...

or

...

more.

...

Depending

...

on

...

work

...

load,

...

for

...

example

...

during

...

the

...

weeks

...

before

...

the

...

3

...

face

...

to

...

face

...

meeting,

...

this

...

can

...

sometimes

...

escalate

...

to

...

as

...

much

...

as

...

20

...

hours

...

per

...

week

...

or

...

more.

...

The

...

commitment

...

for

...

the

...

3

...

face

...

to

...

face

...

meetings

...

generally

...

run

...

about

...

7

...

days

...

with

...

council

...

members

...

having

...

sometimes

...

extensive

...

responsibilities

...

on

...

most

...

days.

...

For

...

those

...

involved

...

in

...

Task

...

forces

...

or

...

Working

...

Groups,

...

there

...

may

...

occasionally

...

be

...

additional

...

face

...

to

...

face

...

interim

...

meetings.

...


Regarding

...

the

...

timing

...

of

...

meetings,

...

I

...

agree

...

with

...

Patrick

...

that

...

putting

...

this

...

somewhere

...

would

...

be

...

useful.

...

Not

...

sure

...

it

...

belongs

...

in

...

the

...

JD,

...

and

...

perhaps

...

it

...

needs

...

to

...

be

...

either

...

floating

...

or

...

decided

...

upon

...

each

...

year

...

depending

...

on

...

the

...

specifics

...

of

...

the

...

participants.

...

2.4

...

(lead

...

WGs)

...

I

...

still

...

feel

...

that

...

we

...

would

...

be

...

better

...

off

...

here

...

using

...

less

...

specific

...

terms

...

and

...

sending

...

the

...

message

...

that

...

we

...

expect

...

work.

...

Regarding

...

Evan's

...

comment

...

about

...

administrative

...

WGs.

...

This

...

might

...

be

...

correct,

...

but

...

the

...

current

...

2.4

...

only

...

talks

...

about

...

Policy

...

WG

...

in

...

my

...

mind,

...

it

...

should

...

be

...

expanded.

...

But

...

at

...

a

...

higher

...

level,

...

not

...

everyone

...

is

...

a

...

leader

...

and

...

we

...

are

...

looking

...

for

...

productivity,

...

not

...

just

...

the

...

number

...

of

...

WGs

...

we

...

have.

...

-

...

2.5

...

I

...

agree

...

with

...

Adam's

...

wording

...

on

...

voting.

...

2.8

...

(NomCom

...

appointees

...

working

...

with

...

their

...

RALO).

...

I

...

can

...

accept

...

either

...

version.

...

Having

...

served

...

on

...

the

...

NomCom,

...

Adam's

...

comment

...

is

...

interesting

...

(that

...

he

...

expected

...

to

...

have

...

to

...

participate

...

in

...

RALO

...

activities).

...

A

...

quick

...

question

...

to

...

the

...

current

...

NomCom

...

chair

...

about

...

whether

...

she

...

thinks

...

it

...

is

...

reasonable

...

might

...

reinforce

...

one

...

position

...

or

...

the

...

other.

...

2.10

...

(Patrick's

...

suggestion

...

that

...

all

...

ALAC

...

members

...

must

...

be

...

At-Large

...

advocates).

...

I

...

guess

...

I

...

don't

...

really

...

agree.

...

Some

...

people

...

are

...

good

...

at

...

this

...

and

...

feel

...

comfortable,

...

others

...

not.

...

I

...

don't

...

think

...

that

...

we

...

should

...

list

...

this

...

as

...

a

...

responsibility

...

but

...

perhaps

...

a

...

useful

...

attribute.

...

contributed

...

by

...

Alan

...

Greenberg

...

on

...

Jul

...

29

...

11:56am

...

...

I agree with Evan's

...

comments

...

right

...

down

...

the

...

line.

...

AG:

...

NOT

...

INCLUDED

...

DUE

...

TO

...

NO

...

IDENTIFICATION

...

contributed

...

by

...

Guest

...

User

...

on

...

Aug

...

10

...

1:31pm

...

I strongly agree with Evan's

...

comment

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specially

...

in

...

relation

...

with

...

job

...

and

...

obligations

...

of

...

Nom

...

Comm

...

appointees.

...


measurements

...

based

...

targets

...

must

...

be

...

removed,

...

in

...

my

...

opinion

...

is

...

useless

...

how

...

have

...

being

...

expresssed.

...


Also

...

I

...

think

...

we

...

represent

...

the

...

end

...

users

...

interests,

...

not

...

1.5

...

Bn.

...

people.

...


And

...

finally

...

I

...

disagree

...

with

...

the

...

existence

...

of

...

Ex

...

Com

...

(I

...

ratified

...

my

...

position

...

that

...

I

...

have

...

already

...

expressed

...

repeatedly

...

times).

...

At

...

this

...

point

...

we

...

need

...

to

...

find

...

another

...

way

...

to

...

administrate

...

ALAC,

...

and

...

not

...

with

...

an

...

"the

...

facto"

...

body.

...

AG:

...

Not

...

mentioned

...

in

...

PD.

...

Carlos

...

Aguirre

...

contributed

...

by

...

Guest

...

User

...

on

...

Aug

...

13

...

6:52am

...

...

I am basically in agreement with Evan's

...

position,

...

although

...

I

...

also

...

agree

...

with

...

Adam's

...

and

...

Carleton's

...

comments

...

about

...

work

...

load

...

and

...

the

...

need

...

to

...

"cherry

...

pick"

...

Gareth

contributed by Guest User on Aug 13 3:54pm

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Someone said "I agree with Evan's comments right down the line." on Aug 10 at 4:31 pm.

Can that someone please say who they are?

Alan

contributed by Alan Greenberg on Aug 17 11:02am

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I think it should be a requirement for board liaison candidacy that the candidate be an active member of ALAC, whether non comm appointed or not. AG: Part of Requirements, not PD.

Also the language in here pertaining to the appropriate representation of ALAC opinions is not strong enough. The board liaison position is not an opportunity for somebody to get access to the board in order to put forward his or her personal views about ICANN policy matters.

Beau Brendler

contributed by Guest User on Aug 24 6:49am