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  Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the APRALO Monthly call on Tuesday 31 July 2012 at 0500 UTC
  Gisella Gruber-White:Draft Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/RhEQAg
  p:hi all :), Pavan here
  p:Charles Mok and Karaitiana Taiuru have sent me their apologies for the call
  Heidi Ullrich:Hi Holly, I've given you host privileges!
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Pavan.
  holly raiche:Thanks Heidi
  Gisella Gruber-White:Reminder - if you are on the audio bridge AND the Adobe Connect room, please MUTE your computer speakers
  YJ Park:is it possible to speak up through adobeconnect?
  YJ Park:still learning
  Sivasubramanian M:hello I am in the meeting, speakers are OK, trying to make the microphone work, if not will ask you to call me
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Siva - let us know if you need the dial-out
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Hi everyone.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Gisella.  I'm still waiting for my dialout.
  Heidi Ullrich:Action Items from Prague: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Action+Items+17.04.2012
  Heidi Ullrich:Rinalia, we'll get you dialed out
  Heidi Ullrich:Minutes: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Summary+Minutes+26.06.2012
  Heidi Ullrich:Rinalia, could you pls let staff know your number?
  Heidi Ullrich:We didn't receive your dial-out request
  Sivasubramanian M:gisella. please call me
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:+852 2119 2265
  Maureen Hilyard:Hi everyone
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Siva - please send me your number
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Rinalia
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Rinalia - calling you now
  Sivasubramanian M:+7
  Sivasubramanian M:±± 91 99524 03099
  Ricky Kung:Hi
  Sivasubramanian M:I am in the room, can hear u
  Siranush Vardanyan:hello, everyone
  Heidi Ullrich:G, we can hear you
  YJ Park:yes
  Maureen Hilyard:yes
  Gisella Gruber-White:can you hear me?
  Keith:Hi all and apologies for lateness
  Sivasubramanian M:connected on adobe speakers and the phone microphone don't know what it costs ICANN
  Heidi Ullrich:Please could everyone mute their speakers?
  Sivasubramanian M:I HAVE my microphones on mute
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, much better!
  Fouad Bajwa:Hello Everyone
  Heidi Ullrich:AIs from the Prague Meeting: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Action+Items+26.06.2012
  Keith:Please note I am here - Keith Davidson
  Gisella Gruber-White:Hi Fouad, your name has been added. Welcome
  Will:Correction to the minutes for 26 June - i was a remote participant (Will Tibben)
  Fouad Bajwa:Thank you Gisella
  p:https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Action+Items+26.06.2012
  Gisella Gruber-White:Keith has joined the call
  SivasubramanianM2:the speakers are weak both on the pho.++
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Dropped out of the call but am on Adobe
  Sivasubramanian M:phone and computers
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Siva - do you need a dial-out again?
  Sivasubramanian M:Cheryl's voice is clear, others are probably not speaking into the microphone
  SivasubramanianM2:no gisella, i am connected
  SivasubramanianM2:the audio problem has something to do with the way one speaks
  Siranush Vardanyan:I have the same problem here with hearing the voices, as Siva
  Gisella Gruber-White:Siva - your line is still connected
  Matt Ashtiani:https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Policy+Development+Page
  SivasubramanianM2:the quality of a remote meeting is invesrsely proportional to the distance between the participant and the microphone
  Gisella Gruber-White:Cheryl disconnected - dialling her in again
  SivasubramanianM2:yes gisella, I am connected
  SivasubramanianM2:will use the phone to speak, if I have to speak
  Heidi Ullrich:i. Preliminary GNSO Issue Report on the Protection of International Organization Names in New gTLDS - Adoptedii. Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy Part C Policy Development Process Initial Report - Adoptediii. IDN Prioritization in the New gTLD Program Targeted at the ICANN Board - Adoptediv. ICANN Board Conflicts of Interest Review - Independent Expert Report - Vote closes 30 Julyv. Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR RT) Final Report  - Adoptedvi. ALAC Statement Endorsing the IPC's Statement on the .com Renewal and Thick Whois - Correspondence submittedi. b. Statements currently being voted on or reviewed by the ALACi. Request for Community Input on SAC054 - Domain Name Registration Data Model - Comments requested through 23 August.c. Current open policy forums: i.  ICANN's FY 13 Security, Stability and Resiliency Framework - No Statement is to be produced - PC Comment Period closes 2 July; Reply Period closes 3 Augustii. Request for Community Input on Formulation of 2013-2016 Strateg
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am on the road and my phone is dead -apologies if I get cut off, am following the transcripts and hearing the audio, will respond via texting in the chatroom
  Heidi Ullrich:IDN Prioritization in the New gTLD Program Targeted at the ICANN Board
  Heidi Ullrich:https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+IDN+Prioritization+in+the+New+gTLD+Program+Targeted+at+the+ICANN+Board+Workspace
  Siranush Vardanyan:Related to IGF topic, I confirmed to be a remote panelist (will  not be there in person) in IGF Baku for the workshop related to youth participation lead by Yannis Li, and I will be talking about ICANN fellowship program and its impact.
  Fouad Bajwa:Sorry I had a bit of audio gap, that was Edmon speaking right?
  Matt Ashtiani:IDN Prioritization in the New gTLD Program Targeted at the ICANN Board - https://community.icann.org/x/EBIQAg
  Fouad Bajwa:Thanks Matt
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Matt. - for those who didn't see it when I put in the chat just above ;)
  Heidi Ullrich:yes, Fouad, that was Edmon
  Matt Ashtiani::-)
  Fouad Bajwa:Thank you Heidi
  Keith:Yes - lots of noise
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Who is speaking?
  Heidi Ullrich:Edmon
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Name first please as audio is scrambled
  Gisella Gruber-White:We have muted Cheryl's line when someone is speaking
  Fouad Bajwa:@Rinalia Is there a batching process?
  Fouad Bajwa:I thought we had requested from ALAC to inlcude the IDN and its variants into the regular newgtld process
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:we can hear you
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Can people please speak loudly so that we can hear please
  Fouad Bajwa:+ to ask ICANN throught ALAC that is
  Fouad Bajwa:through......sorry still drowsy :)
  Heidi Ullrich:AI: Wiki page to be created to collect comments on batching for APRALO to collect comments. These comments are to be submitted to the PC on behalf of APRALO.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:@Fouad - there will be some kind order for delegating new gTLDs into the root, so yes, some kind of batching is coming - hence the request for comments from ICANN
  Heidi Ullrich:SAC 54 draft statement: https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Request+for+Community+Input+on+SAC054+-+Domain+Name+Registration+Data+Model+Workspace
  Heidi Ullrich:https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Request+for+Community+Input+on+Formulation+of+2013-2016+Strategic+Plan++Workspace
  Heidi Ullrich:Holly's report from the regional IGF: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/34607430/IGF+-+Regional+-+July+2012+Report_back.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1343679234396
  Sivasubramanian M:fouad say more about the general mood on WCIT
  Sivasubramanian M:We could do a workshop on the need for openness in CS inclusion in multistakeholder processes, could still try and ask IGFfor workshop slot
  Sivasubramanian M:this would be a theme on which APRALO could talk about the openness of ralo processes to contrast with the ITU process of apparent openness
  Fouad Bajwa:@Rinalia, until the community comments process is not completed and ALAC/GAC submit their received comments/warnings, i was of the notion that once that process is completed and ICANN releases its conclusion will then enter the process finalizing who makes it but a batching process for root inclusion is something i was unaware of
  Heidi Ullrich:At-Large WCIT Workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/alacexcomm/At-Large+WCIT+Workspace
  Sivasubramanian M:webinar yes yes
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:@ Siva, we should preach first to ICANN to do this transparently, look at how they took away our budget and we are supposed to represent end users yet we get marginalised and exploited (free work at no compensation) and whilst our work is voluntary, we get undercut when trying to build and promote outreach
  Sivasubramanian M:now you are talking like an ITU lawyer Sal a
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I can tell you that ALS penetration rate is down
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:for APRALO
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:correction, I am a free lance agent
  Sivasubramanian M:On the other hand in our workshop we could be fair and could also look at ourselves introspectively for MORE openness in our processes
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am not an ITU lawyer, Siva - only considered by ITU as a regional expert on Pacific matters
  Fouad Bajwa:The webinar should be Asian Friendly Time ;)
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:@Fouad - ICANN seeks input on gTLD batching http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-29jul12-en.htm
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:back to the point about outreach - if you want to go and preach to someone outside, start inhouse first
  Fouad Bajwa:@Rinalia, am aware of that, thank you and I think the general feeling i have picked up is that no batching but technically that is not possible during root zone additions but IDNs could be attempted to be included in the first batch of the technical addition
  Fouad Bajwa:A problem with these announcements is that they aren't circulated in the region as What do APRALO members feel about the Request for Comments RoCs by ICANN on gTLD batching, that might help us get regional feedback, a small process request issue
  Fouad Bajwa:but i have felt a strong sense that IDNs should be part of any initial activity of application evaluation, approval and addition to the root zone
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I totally understand the chicken and egg issue and am therefore of the point of view that the current answer from Finance is not conducive to helping out the chicken and egg problem
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I suggest the region raises this point at the next chance possible
  Keith:Apologies, I have to leave
  SivasubramanianM2:the solution is to separate the finance issues from that of the workshop organizing issue. What we need to focus no now is to see if there is any way we could get the MAG / one of the theme committees accept a proposal, a new proposal on which APRALO would work together, participate as panelists, and handle a theme of significance. Work on ICANN funding could proceed simultatneously
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:There is a pressing need to focus on how we can icrease and build a sustainable core and empower ALS to participate actively in the Policy Processes on key areas, there needs to be a sustainable pool to draw from
  Fouad Bajwa:Our budget input is not successful if we don't get a bridge from ICANN to execute things beforehand
  Fouad Bajwa:prepare, prepare, prepare is important and international activities are not waiting for ICANN, they have their processess and we need prior input by ICANN including their endorsements to budgets
  SivasubramanianM2:gisella call automatically disconnected after 60 minutes
  Fouad Bajwa:@Olivier, there is considerable Visa Processing time and that is already a concern in IGF
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:understood. I am told we're going to hear from Global Partnership very soon indeed
  Fouad Bajwa:and we need to start the Toronoto travel preps
  Fouad Bajwa:the visa time is around 2 months in my part of the world
  Fouad Bajwa::)
  Fouad Bajwa:and baku will be a whole different story ;o)
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Siva, we should test the platform that you designed on a few ALS to roll out training etc for outreach so there is more policy immersion - i was disappointed with the budget allocation towards APRALO for IGF as Global Partnership has laid claim to it; they should have outrightly told us that it was Global Partnership's turf in San Jose so we would not have been misled
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:anyway the only person who has the discretion to grant us workshop space is Chengetai
  Fouad Bajwa:@Sala communication with Global Partnerships has to be improved, they should have a dedicated person to respond to ALAC activities
  SivasubramanianM2:But Chengetai is some times silent and says that it is the dcmmittee that has to decide
  SivasubramanianM2:What needs to be done is to reach out to the MAG, in addition to sending a request to Chengetai
  Fouad Bajwa:I do know what the MAG is usually discussing so u can ask anytime and i can share any updates that i have
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Yes, so my suggestion is that we  don't waste any more time on it as there is no budget confirmation but focus on growing critical mass for input into key policy area - we need a strategic plan in terms of developing a pool of resources from within APRALO
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:if we identify key emphases and policy areas that we want to focus on then we can be alot more proactive rather than reactive to some of the policy discussions and debates
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:it will also be great to hear from the ALS's
  holly raiche:heidi - are you there?
  Siranush Vardanyan:my call was disconnected
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:If we remove the politics, money challenges bottom line is how can we improve that which is on our plate
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks!
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Siranush - apologies te call is now ending
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks
  Heidi Ullrich:Sorry, all. I thought the call had ended
  Heidi Ullrich:I'm back on.
  Heidi Ullrich:The At-Large election page: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections%2C+Selections+and+Appointments+2012
  Siranush Vardanyan:ok, thanks
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Goodbye all, could'nt hear everyone and relied on the transcripts but heard Cheryl well though
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:still on the road
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:bye all
  Will:thanks
  YJ Park:bye all~
  Sivasubramanian M:thank you holly
  Maureen Hilyard:bye everyone
  Matt Ashtiani:thank you everyone, good night
  Heidi Ullrich:APRALO elections page: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Elections+2012+Workspace
  Gisella Gruber-White:Thank you everyone!
  Fouad Bajwa:Bye Everyone!
  Fouad Bajwa:Thank you Matt, Heidi, Gisella and Adigo
  Heidi Ullrich:Bye!
  Fouad Bajwa:and Natalia if I am correct :)
  Siranush Vardanyan:thank you all and bye
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Fouad - Nathalie was not on this call but thanks :-)