Zoom Chat: 2020-06-16 Universal Acceptance: How It Affects End-Users, Language Communities and ICANN At-Large

16:54:02 From Yesim Nazlar to All panelists : Welcome to Universal Acceptance: How It Affects End-Users, Language Communities and ICANN At-Large taking place on Tuesday, 16 June 2020 at 14:00 UTC
16:54:17 From Adrian Carballo to All panelists : Good evening everyone Adrian Carballo from Argentina
16:54:21 From Captioner - Bonnie to All panelists : Yesim, can I please have captioning privs?
16:55:03 From Captioner - Bonnie to All panelists : Thank you for letting me know, Yesim.
16:55:55 From K Mohan Raidu : Greetings to all from K Mohan Raidu, India
16:56:23 From Maureen Hilyard : Good morning from the Cook Islands
16:56:30 From Gisella Gruber to All panelists : Hi Roberto - sorting out :-)
16:56:53 From Priyatosh Jana to All panelists : hi Maureen...
16:56:55 From Satish Babu to All panelists : Welcome to everyone!
16:57:04 From Satish Babu to All panelists : Hi Maureen...a bit early for you...
16:57:08 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Hi from Australia (at midnight)
16:57:17 From Hadia Elminiawi to All panelists : Roberto is going second correct?
16:57:27 From Priyatosh Jana to All panelists : hi Cheryl
16:57:28 From Satish Babu to All panelists : Correct Hadia
16:57:48 From Jonathan Zuck : Good morning! Do you feel. Universal acceptance today? Know that you are loved.
16:58:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : :-)
16:58:09 From Maureen Hilyard : Thats nice, Jonathan
16:58:13 From Satish Babu to All panelists : :-)
16:58:40 From Lilian Ivette : Good morning Hi from Colombia
16:58:54 From Syuzan Marukhyan to All panelists : Good evening from Armenia!
16:59:01 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : Good morning from Egypt
16:59:22 From Priyatosh Jana to All panelists : very nice Jonathan
17:00:37 From Laxmi Prasad Yadav : Please give brief introduction of IDN, EAI and UA considering end users before going to detail
17:00:44 From Jonathan Zuck : Is it just me whose audio is distorted?
17:01:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : audio OK for me JZ
17:02:53 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy to All panelists : can't find mic and video symbols not sure if my mic is muted or video is on.
17:03:22 From Satish Babu to All panelists : Siva, as this is a webinar, the Zoom has a different interface
17:03:37 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy to All panelists : can't see participants button either
17:03:53 From Olévié Kouami / Sénégal to All panelists : Greetings from Sénégal
17:04:17 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : can't find mic and video symbols not sure if my mic is muted or video is on.
17:04:42 From Olévié Kouami / Sénégal to All panelists : please, do we have a french translation available ?
17:04:43 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : can't see participants button either
17:05:03 From Dave Kissoondoyal to All panelists : hello everyone
17:05:36 From Yesim Nazlar to All panelists : @Siva: This is a Zoom webinar set-up, hence participants don’t have mic & video options. If you have a question please raise your hand or alternatively use the Q&A pod.
17:06:02 From Maureen Hilyard : @JZ audio is fine on the phone bridge
17:06:22 From Jonathan Zuck : All better now. No clue
17:07:30 From Yesim Nazlar : @Siva: This is a Zoom webinar set-up, hence participants don’t have mic & video options. If you have a question please raise your hand or alternatively use the Q&A pod.
17:07:36 From Yesim Nazlar : RTT Link: @Siva: This is a Zoom webinar set-up, hence participants don’t have mic & video options. If you have a question please raise your hand or alternatively use the Q&A pod.
17:07:58 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop to All panelists : Thanks for the session, its a very important topic given not the language of choice but also the issue but also that the dominant language for content is English. We have incorporated this issue in our Virtual School of Internet Governance
17:08:04 From Yesim Nazlar : RTT Link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
17:09:45 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to All panelists : If the Zoom room is set to show participants names it makes the session more user friendly
17:15:38 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Nadira we are using zoom webinar room and not zoom meeting room
17:16:25 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Logged in from a computer to see if the zoom environment is different, here also I dont see the list of participants, nor do I know if the video is on / mic is unmuted.
17:16:40 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to All panelists : yes I know, but it would have been better if you used Zoom meeting room
17:17:31 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to All panelists : specially with the virtual environment to get the community closer to each other
17:17:32 From Betty Fausta to All panelists : oki Siva
17:17:48 From Amrita : @Siva in this Zoom setup you cannot see list of participants. Vidoe and mike in not enabled
17:17:59 From sylvia herlein to All panelists : YES Siva, for me is the same
17:18:04 From Amrita : *is not enabled
17:18:10 From Roberto to Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, All Panelists : Siva, video is off and, as far as I know, attendees are muted - unmuted by staff for the Q&A part
17:19:33 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Roberto, but I have no clue about who are the participants of this meeting - it is a minor issue to participate in a meeting where a participant does not know who else is here
17:20:17 From Roberto to Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, All Panelists : I hear you - but there is nothing I can do about it. Maybe lessons learned for next session?
17:20:36 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Though all participants are muted by the zoom admin, a participant is not sure if he can see the controls for mic and video
17:20:54 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Yes Roberto, lessons for the next session
17:22:04 From Yesim Nazlar : @Siva: If you have a question, please either raise your hand and you’ll be unmuted once the floor is given to you, or alternatively you can ask your question via using the Q&A pod.
17:23:09 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : @Satish, nice catches
17:23:13 From Dave Kissoondoyal to All panelists : Thank-you Satish
17:23:18 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Yesim I understand all that, but without mic, video buttons and the list of participants, this ICANN SESSION feels "controlled".
17:23:20 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : @Satish, Thanks a lot
17:24:08 From Bill Jouris to All panelists : Well, it is controlled. By design.
17:24:09 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Feels very different from a typical ICANN remote session.
17:25:03 From Jonathan Zuck : Yes! We need to mobilize our members to raise the profile of the issue
17:25:31 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : @Satish, also @Amrita could take a look at uasg.tech website, she will find 2 main current good practices models like "India, Taiwan"
17:25:41 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop to All panelists : Thanks Satish
17:26:25 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop to All panelists : ధన్యవాదాలు సతీష్
17:26:42 From Satish Babu to All panelists : Thanks Glenn :-)
17:27:42 From Betty Fausta to All panelists : +1 Jonathan & Siva
17:29:21 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop to All panelists : The online content is heavily skewed to North American and European content in contrast to their population density as reported in The Guardian So 20% of the world or less shapes our understanding of 80% of the world
17:29:40 From Jonathan Zuck : No market
17:29:45 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop to All panelists : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/05/internet-white-western-google-wikipedia-skewed
17:30:23 From Jonathan Zuck : Classic checken and egg dilemma
17:31:02 From Jonathan Zuck : Hear, hear!
17:32:20 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : It was really nice UA session for the EURODIG2020
17:33:55 From Syuzan Marukhyan : <Question> Does it mean that those spreading the word to raise awareness about the issue can also be of non-technical background?
17:34:11 From Lianna Galstyan : Absolutely, Syuzan
17:35:19 From Yesim Nazlar : @All: Kind reminder to please use the Q&A pod for your questions, if you’d like them to be answered by the presenters
17:36:46 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to All panelists : yes, not seeing landing page link it might raise a security issue
17:37:38 From sylvia herlein to All panelists : indeed Roberto :)
17:38:22 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop to All panelists : ISOC has been doing Indigenous Internet Summits and its a topic that language preservation of North American indigenous languages
17:39:23 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop to All panelists : http://www.native-languages.org/
17:39:37 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop to All panelists : Ottimo lavoro Roberto, grazie
17:39:50 From sylvia herlein to All panelists : tks Roberto, as clear as usual
17:39:59 From Judith Hellerstein : All stream text link is here, https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
17:40:04 From Glenn McKnight, Desktop : Ottimo lavoro Roberto, grazie
17:40:08 From Roberto to All panelists : Thanks folks - I did my best
17:40:17 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : @Roberto, well done
17:40:21 From Judith Hellerstein : thanks Roberto very good
17:40:49 From Olévié Kouami / Sénégal to All panelists : thank you Roberto. it was very clear
17:42:28 From Yesim Nazlar to All panelists : We have a hand up - Abdelmonem Galila
17:43:28 From Judith Hellerstein : on thunderbird from mozilla, the email address of a person can be in a non Latin script but the domain is in a Latin script
17:44:04 From Judith Hellerstein : so is Satish saying that the domain is in a Latin script
17:44:18 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Lianna, please take the question on record.
17:44:34 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : I am unabe to copy the whole question from the q&a window and bring it here
17:44:36 From Jonathan Zuck : Recent survey suggests that the problem with new Latin script gTLDs has been substantially mitigated! Very exciting
17:46:36 From Judith Hellerstein : @staff for the next webinar that we have RTT. can you put the stream text link on this main slide. thanks
17:46:47 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Sivasubramanian I shall read you whole comment/question
17:46:51 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : @Yesim, I raised my hand and nothing new
17:47:14 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : @Yesim, Kindly handle this
17:47:19 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Thank you Hadia
17:47:19 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Abdelmoeniem we shall get to you, reading first the questions
17:48:36 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Thank you
17:48:59 From Judith Hellerstein : @siva great question.
17:49:11 From Yesim Nazlar to All panelists : Heads-up - we need to move on to Lianna
17:49:14 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Thank you Judith
17:49:43 From Judith Hellerstein : it is how we can get a wider support for UA by countries who use Latin scripts
17:50:10 From Jonathan Zuck : Can you bring up the recent analysis of the top 1000 sites that was presented in the UA webinar?
17:50:15 From Judith Hellerstein : it is a any TLD that is longer than 3 characters.
17:50:40 From Judith Hellerstein : so .bank and .travel is also a problem
17:50:40 From Jonathan Zuck : That's correct
17:51:21 From Maria Kolesnikova to All panelists : https://uasg.tech/2020/05/now-available-country-based-evaluation-of-websites-for-acceptance-of-email-addresses-in-2020/
17:51:51 From Maria Kolesnikova to All panelists : Here is the link to the latest UASG study on UA
17:52:13 From Maria Kolesnikova : https://uasg.tech/2020/05/now-available-country-based-evaluation-of-websites-for-acceptance-of-email-addresses-in-2020/
17:52:25 From sylvia herlein to All panelists : @ dear Jonathan, please send me some information about new latin script
17:52:33 From Maria Kolesnikova : Here is the link to the latest UASG study on UA
17:52:34 From Hadia Elminiawi : Abdelmonem you put your hand down. Do you still want to take the floor
17:52:48 From Judith Hellerstein : @maria thanks
17:53:26 From Roberto to All panelists : Will Q&A and chat be accessible after the session so that we can elaborate on the topics raised?
17:53:34 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : @Hadia, I put my hand down for sake of time
17:53:58 From Judith Hellerstein : end users should be aware when they sign up for email addresses that these domains could have problems
17:54:13 From sylvia herlein to All panelists : +1 Lianna
17:54:30 From Judith Hellerstein : this should not be an issue but it is something the usag is trying to solve
17:54:43 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : and I will write what I want to say here
17:55:36 From Bill Jouris to All panelists : Perhaps it would be worthwhile for ICANN to publish a list of which browsers, etc. are UA compatible, and which are not. Both as a service to users wanting to know which ones will allow them to use their own language and also to apply some pressure on the vendors to expand UA
17:56:48 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Abdelmoeneim we can go overtime for the Q&A, you can take the floor after Liana if you wish
17:58:06 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : @K Mohan, as a follow-up about what @Roberto said, we as UASG EAI WG are discussing this issue through changing the display name of the email address according to the language of the recipient and of course there are some security consuderations that should be take
17:59:48 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : @Prytosh Java, as a follwup for what said by @Satish, We have EAI trainings and we could help you to dploy your own local language email server
18:01:49 From Alberto Soto : Sorry, I have another meeting, Thanks!!
18:02:11 From Betty Fausta to All panelists : hello my friend Abdelmoeneim
18:02:27 From Betty Fausta to All panelists : you speak too fast for non English is harder.
18:02:49 From Betty Fausta to All panelists : please be careful next time. Betty
18:03:19 From Judith Hellerstein : so while the email address is in english the names that appears in in another script. that works for Mozilla
18:03:59 From Judith Hellerstein : it also works for apple mail
18:04:26 From sylvia herlein to All panelists : tks to all, very interesnting
18:04:38 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : Just a last cent, that you could have your own EAI mail server using open-source modules
18:05:22 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : like Postfix 3.0.1, Courier-Imap or POP , Round-Cube
18:05:35 From Heidi Ullrich to All panelists : Thursday schedule: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Thursday%2C+25+June+2020
18:05:35 From Mohamed Elbashir to All panelists : Thank you everyone, The Speakers ( Satish, Roberto & Hadia) and At-Large community.
18:05:49 From Heidi Ullrich to All panelists : Congratulations, Mohamed!
18:06:10 From Abdalmonem Galila to All panelists : Get in touch with UA ambassadors, who will help and give you the right direction
18:06:12 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you Mohamed for joining us
18:06:32 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you UA ambassadors for being with us today
18:06:38 From Betty Fausta to All panelists : bye all. hello Judith
18:06:39 From Lianna Galstyan : Agree with Abdalmonem, very useful to reach out to UA Ambassadors in your region.
18:07:02 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to All panelists : congratulations to Mohamed el Bashir
18:07:53 From Maria Kolesnikova : +1 to Roberto
18:09:52 From Maureen Hilyard : Thank you to Satish, Roberto and Lianna for their interesting contributions to this topic
18:11:05 From sylvia herlein to All panelists : bravo!
18:11:53 From Joanna Kulesza : Great panel, thanks all!
18:12:01 From Lianna Galstyan : Thanks everyone for joining and for your interest.
18:12:26 From Priyatosh Jana to All panelists : thanks to all panelists and participants
18:12:27 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Thank you Mohammed for your comment.
18:13:12 From Anna Karakhanyan to All panelists : We should communicate with the developers and technical personal of hosting provider companies because UA can't be spread in the country without the help of technical specialists and demand from the people of this country. Also the government should play one of main roles.
18:13:54 From Syuzan Marukhyan : Thank you for the webinar and for the presentations
18:14:21 From Gnanajeyaraman Rajaram to All panelists : Thank you, very informative session
18:14:22 From Katarina Gevorgyan to All panelists : thank you
18:14:28 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to All panelists : thanks Satish, Roberto and Lianna
18:14:28 From Satish Babu : Thanks and bye!!
18:14:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thanks everyone... Bye for now...
18:14:37 From Cengiz Acarturk to All panelists : thanks a lot!,
18:14:41 From Dave Kissoondoyal to All panelists : Thank-you Satish, Lianna, Roberto and all participants. bye to all
18:14:43 From Priyatosh Jana to All panelists : bye
18:14:44 From Roberto to All panelists : bye
18:14:48 From Sushanta to All panelists : thank you
18:14:49 From Anna Karakhanyan to All panelists : Thank you! I was glas to meet you!
18:14:51 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you