Description
This is the At-Large Ad-Hoc New Meeting Strategy Drafting Team WIKI working space. Its main purpose is to draft ALAC/At-Large meeting details for meetings A, B & C as part of the new ICANN Meeting Strategy.
Meeting Calendar for Meetings A, B & C (Ver 2:: 03/09/15)
Suggestion Model B-2vs
32 Comments
Eduardo Diaz
Team:
I just created a strawman proposal for Meetings A, B and C. The idea here is to start the conversation and use these to build-up the final draft to be presented in ICANN 53 at Buenos Aires.
Also, I want to mention that Maureen Hilyard is leading a sub-group named the - THINK Tank (TT) - to brainstorm, propose and delineate the specifics activities for the Outreach/Capacity Building slots identified in the meetings.
Please make ALL your comments in this WIKI space. This will help in nurturing the final piece.
Note: I used the Visio Microsoft Tool to create the above diagrams. We may want to switch to a table like format later-on to speed-up the inclusion of changes.
Beran Dondeh Gillen
Thank you Eduardo I believe this is a great start and is really something to build upon.
Maureen Hilyard
Thank you Eduardo. I haven't used Visio before but your presentations are very impressive. I did note in Meetings A and C that you missed out on meetings with the ccNSO and the gNSO (they are my and Olivier's responsibilities thats why they were noticed
.)There has been some discussion already from the group. Once big contribution came from yourself and from Vanda. I am putting them here as a starter to the discussions we hope to continue in BA.
Eduardo Diaz
Maurreen:
The meetings with the ccNSO/GNSO are in both meetings A & C. Look at 8:00 - 10:00 in Day 4. I did not separate them as the other ones because I ran out of space in the graphic. There will be one hour each.
Maureen Hilyard
Thank you Eduardo. It was initially an observation as I was writing up my notes. My fault for not looking carefully enough. I really like the proposed plan for ALAC members it is all very logical and compact, particularly when there is so much to fit in. But meeting B does not help us as liaisons who have to cover another set of meetings at the same time. ccNSO usually meets on 2 days but the gNSO meets over the entire week.
For the ALAC the on going relationship we have with our partner SO/ACs is very important. Although we meet with them regularly, what do they know about the ALAC and similarly what do we know about them? And that goes for other sections of ICANN.
Is outreach finding out more about other sections? Therefore our outreach day could include:
The morning sessions could be made available to ICANN or outside organisations to learn more about ALAC
The afternoon sessions could include those meetings with our SO/AC and other ICANN partners (1-6pm). Meeting with them early in the week would also give our own meetings some focus on how our decisions might meet the expectations of the wider ICANN community.
Satish Babu
Thanks Maureen. I agree with the points raised by you and Vanda.
The broad labels under which we should perhaps be discussing, in my opinion, are:
Each of these may warrant fairly extensive discussions.
satish
Maureen Hilyard
In APRALO, we have been concentrating not so much on those outside of our RALO, but focusing on those within it who are not participating as much as we would like. We held an election recently for our NomCom and only 26 of our 40 ALSes responded to the call to vote - and yet that is a primary ALS responsibility. We need to find out why the other 14 ALS members didn't vote!
We held a survey recently (in March, again the response was 26 ALSes out of the 38 we had at the time. I am not sure if they were the same 26, but I can check).
Anyway, the responses relating to what would get them more engaged included:
Any possibilities in Academic or Technical related WGs?
Need more information on new or existing working groups, but interested in being involved.
I want to contribute to the technical work of SSAC, NRO and ASO. In my region, there is very little awareness about these committee/organizations. I would also be willing to contribute towards the awareness about the working of these organizations. Recently, Fahd and Bahr visited our country that helped a lot in terms of spreading awareness and engaging with the local community. (the SSAC and more technical involvement was an interest of 4 respondents)
I do participate when I see opportunities and have done so over the previous years.
I am interested in Technical working groups
Be part of the email list, especially as a newbie introduced through our fellowship programme.
Continue to send out volunteer or nomination calls for working group spots
More hours in the day. Domestic workload prevents engagement as fully as I’d like
Our Board is restructuring and we will encourage more members to participate
If we are working on OUTREACH to bring more people in, this is all very well, as long as they are going to be actively engaged. So that we need to look at quality INREACH as well to ensure that those who are currently members are actively participating.
From what we are hearing and WHAT WE KNOW ALREADY, it takes several meetings to actually understand what OUR section of the ICANN system is about (without even looking at other areas!). But ALSes who join up who have never attended even ONE meeting are very disadvantaged. Maybe a pre-requisite for registration is that we insist that they must have attended at least ONE meeting (at their own cost). That will definitely show whether they are truly interested or not..
Maureen Hilyard
How do we engage our ALSes in ALAC work? (create an information tool)
Yasuichi Kitamura
Thank you for your great work, Eduard.
At my first glance, on the MEETING B, I concern a little bit about the RALO meeting format. At B, the parallel format is proposed, can the meeting keep at most 3 rooms for about 30 people with U-shape? Other communities will hold their meetings too with such the packing style. RALO meetings had better be kept in the single track format.
Yasuichi Kitamura
RALO meetings should be moved to DAY 1 on the MEETING B?
Maureen Hilyard
An interesting suggestion.. My idea was for a special showcase by RALOs focusing on outreach. But for Meeting B, perhaps RALOs could change their approach for their meetings so that their presentations could offer a look at their OUTREACH as well as INREACH activities within their regions. It would certainly demonstrate the diversity of the RALOs as well as that within the RALOs themselves
Although Glenn has not contributed to this discussion formally, he and Alan have raised in the past that there is a need for more engagement of our current members before we go out and "recruit" more ALSes. But maybe it is different for each RALO. I have already explained the difficulties for APRALO.
Are there any comments on this?
Yasuichi Kitamura
The idea of another approach of RALO meetings is attractive.
Vanda Scartezini
Vanda Scartezini
For this time for LACRALO showcase I have suggested to bring people from the universities from Buenos Aires and Alberto is trying to get them. I believe it is also a good use of this interesting space.
Maureen Hilyard
Hi all, we have just completed our New Meeting Strategy Drafting Team meeting and there was some interesting discussion. FYI I am attaching the link that Sebastian passed on to look at the WG's ideas when they were developing the meetings that we need to take notice of. http://meetings.icann.org/mswg_recommendations-icannfuturemeetingsstrategy_finalv1.1_9jun14.pdf.
For us who are looking at outreach activities - but perhaps Meeting B in particular - the focus of this meeting was proposed to be for SO/ACs to focus more on INTRA sessions (that Eduardo mentioned). The staff are more aware than we are to expect the unexpected, and Alan highlighted that whatever we plan now can be overturned by something that will crop up to conflict with our plans. But we do need to have some ideas up our sleeves.
In the original WG proposal, they suggested that Meeting B would be held in a area of a region previously unavailable to ICANN - so that this could mean that outreach should focus on the region itself - inviting more local groups to the ICANN outreach sessions to give them some understanding of what ICANN is about and how they can become involved (as Vanda suggests) and ensuring that the sessions are in the local language (as suggested by Sebastian) and requiring local interpreters (?). I suggested that these sessions could also be for those who are currently ALSes but not as engaged as we'd like them to be.
Important to this planning for the outreach sessions, is the involvement with the staff and other sections of the ICANN. I think Heidi said that there will be a short meeting in BA with staff on Sunday @ 15.30 - 1600 and an open session on Tues afternoon @ 1300-1400.
We also need to touch base with the Outreach and Engagement Team which hasn't met in a while but the focus has been on developing the brochure in preparation for BA.
One "out there" suggestion I made for Meeting B as that RALOs could focus on an OUTREACH/mini showcase presentation at the outreach session and leave their administration/in house sessions for a monthly teleconference that month - we are very time constrained in Meeting B. And we need to know how we can also engage ourselves as ALAC with other groups - outside of our normal relationships with other SOs and ACs. Perhaps meet with these groups in BA and find out common areas of interest?
What do you others think?
Maureen Hilyard
FYI - From the original working party report - to give us some clarity:
(p12) Format for Meeting B would be adjusted from the current meeting structure in the following ways:
o Three (3) days of focused as SO/AC work
▪ The format for the three days focused on policy development work would have a shortened day agenda, for example 09:00-16:00, providing dedicated time from 16:00 on for cross community collaboration and networking.
o One (1) day focused on community outreach ▪ The MSWG recommends that a focused plan be developed for those Meeting B outreach activities to maximize opportunities
(p8) Maximize qualitative participation:
o Ensure capabilities for remote participation
o Provide sufficient language services (interpretation, translation)
o Balance geographic rotation vs. hub location
o Outreach with local communities, e.g., universities, businesses, Internet users and the media on important matters
o Educate new and existing participants on issues being addressed by ICANN
o Minimize conflicts with other Internet community events, e.g., IETF, IGF
o Visa availability
(p9) Outreach activities are defined as activities conducted by SO/AC groups or cross-community groups with the intention of increasing awareness and interest in ICANN with individuals and organizations outside of the ICANN community. ● These activities are consistent with ICANN’s function and mission.
In ICANN’s global multistakeholder model, policy is developed in a bottom-up fashion, a process that is enhanced and strengthened by reaching out to external communities, educating them about ICANN and encouraging them to participate if they wish. Capacity building is defined as any learning effort (including education training and tools), and special emphasis on leadership training at Meeting C.
Yasuichi Kitamura
One idea or concern here.
In the future, if another "IANA transition" happens at the time for the Meeting B, it will be very hard to reconstruct this. Can the Meeting D for the emergency be prepared?
Maureen Hilyard
That is a very interesting thought Yasuichi. I am assuming that if that was to happen, and we had prepared a programme for the Mtg B outreach day, the other three days would become the "IANA Transition" programme - as is happening now, as we try to squeeze in our policy work into the time that the IANA Transition schedule allows.
Vanda Scartezini
Dear all
In my opinion is relevant is the need of flexibility - we must have to use the models depend upon the region we go and the "political environment" we have at each time.
let me make some points to consider about At large:
a) Considering end of the year is "general assembly" legally for ICANN I believe we should have model C - 7 days - always at the end to the year; hence, we shall considering At Large General Assemblies also during this model. there is more time to accommodate all meetings.
b) As far I understood model B will not have much business investment, no space for booths for instance. Am I right? if so mostly of the investment will come from ICANN and this will impact other expenses for this model. so At Large with all ALS shall never be together with model B
c)Several small countries in any region has no direct representative in ICANN, as members of ACs/SOs for instance, demanding a real effort to organize these meetings there. This will mean for regional RALO an additional effort to make the "outreach effort" at the region productive. we shall have budget previously organised for this demand.
c) some flexibility will be needed to accommodate years without B model. for instance, let's think about 2016:
March Marrakech - while in Africa would be good to have model B meetings but the "political environment" will not allow this to happen -it will be model A or C.
June - Latin America, another chance to have a model B. but depending upon IANA transition has finished or not, will continue to demand for a A or C model and a larger country.
October - North America = Porto Rico - this small island would be great for B model, but it is end of the year, so general Assembly ( with just 2.5 years from London may not be allowed to new general Assembly for At Large) as for my suggestion, we will have then model C.
Meaning, we may have 2 model C and one model A and none B model.
this is just food for thought for our meeting on Thursday.
good day/ night to all
Vanda Scartezini
Beran Dondeh Gillen
Vanda Scartezini can you please repost, the tail part of your message did not post.
Maureen Hilyard
Vanda's diagram seemed to have dropped off her message above: but here it is. It is an interesting proposal spreading the outreach sessions over the week instead of one day. And more so at the end of the day so if more time is required there is "spillage" time
Sorry I missed the meeting last week, but thank goodness for transcripts. I like Vanda's idea as it would provide a little more flexibility and use Sandra's suggestion of two or three ALAC members joining with other SO or AC groups to carry out a community interaction activity. Working collaboratively would also enhance the intercommunity purpose of Meeting B, in between carrying out normal policy work. Interested ALAC members could opt for the section with which they would like to work...
As Satish and Sebastian mentioned, one purpose of the outreach sessions is to connect with individuals so that although we may not recruit any new ALSes, we should try to interest more members of local ALSes who may not normally be engaged in what we do. Once they learn more about who we are and what we do they may become more interested in being involved. AS EXAMPLES...
Day 1 - A GNSO-NCSG-ALAC team could meet with NGOs and/or other stakeholder groups to share about ICANN and their sections and to learn about local organisations and how they might mutually benefit from membership of At Large or a Stakeholder Group
Day 2 - An ALAC-ccNSO-ASO team could meet with ISPs in the region - to explain their roles in ICANN and discuss policy related to delegation, revocation, etc; and perhaps include the regional NIC to talk about IPV6 or something topical, ETC
Day 3 - An ALAC-GAC-SSAC team could organise a meeting with government officers of ICT Ministries from the region - to explain ICANN and to discuss government policy development related to GAC activities in ICANN
Another idea came from Raf - a debate - not sure if he meant it, but if we wanted to get into a university, a collective team of ICANNers could set up a lunch-time debate with their uni team and debate a simple ICANN issue - nothing too technical, but something which ICANN participants could use to explain what ICANN does.
This will require an initial meeting of all the ICANN sections so that we could coordinate some sort of plan. We would need...
As Sebastian and Sandra intimated, if there are any costs related to this, then ICANN will have to cover these. It could mean a venue, some catering, printing costs for brochures and other information materials.
Satish reminded us that outreach should also be used to help to raise the profile of ICANN within the region - so that the media of the locality and the region should be notified of the events so that these can be covered and syndicated. As well as used on the ICANN website and social media pages
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET A MEMBER OF THE GNSO AND THE CCNSO TO OUR NEXT MEETING, TO DISCUSS WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING (ANOTHER GO!) BUT THIS TIME LOOKING AT HOW WE MIGHT COLLABORATE WITH THEM (AS ABOVE PERHAPS)
Vanda Scartezini
hi all
Unhappily I will not arrive in time in Sao Paulo to our meeting, so apologize and will get the transcription, but before that I would like to make some comments;
like mine the slide with the proposed distribution to B model could not enter into Maureen comment either. I sent by email to some I had the address and to staff, then may be someone from staff could help and post the slide.
anyway, the general idea was explained by Maureen and indeed the idea was to allow more combined outreach with other groups. from my personal side, as coordinating DNS women, we also will use B model to make outside outreach to women, so one more opportunity to have some women members to join our activity too.
I understand the little cover will probably be transport and may be some small sandwiches and juice to offer to attendance at universities, associations etc.
the idea to start to talk with other groups, not only GNSO, is great, depend upon personal relationship we in this group can approach all groups and ask about their ideas on outreach - if they are planning to do, etc and bring back to our group to add value to our proposal.
media is also great. i have being here talking in a radio station -about new gtlds and internet issues and is incredible how far and how many persons listen to radio during the day and come back with question during the program. If we could have this opportunity and address in the local language, wherever will be the event, would be fabulous.
i need to catch my plane. apologize again not to be able to attend the meeting and wish you all a very productive work. kisses to all
Beran Dondeh Gillen
Maureen Hilyard
Hi
At the last "New Meeting Strategy" meeting today I was asked to collate a list of ideas that hopefully more members an add to... Here is what I have garnered from above, plus added some others as I was doing so.. and although the focus for this Think Tank group was originally for Meeting B - the ideas are transferable to Mtgs A and C.
LOCAL COORDINATION
PRE-VISIT
OUTREACH DAY
DURING THE WEEK
PLEASE ADD MORE![(smile)](/s/y3ve6/8804/1v70iay/_/images/icons/emoticons/smile.svg)
Beran Dondeh Gillen
Beran Dondeh Gillen
Beran Dondeh Gillen
Yasuichi Kitamura
ICANN is working for the Internet activities at first. Universities or the educational institutions are the too generic target in some cases, especially at the developed countries. These days, NREN (National Research and Education Network) communities are being developed in every places. At BA, in the video, RedClara was introduced. This is the regional research and education network in South America. And about the technical communities, NOG (Network Operators Group) is very important. They have to follow up the new gTLD activities. Especially, at the developed area, these NRENs and NOGs are the key players and, in fact, they don't want to join the ICANN activities in general. :-) Because, they think ICANN activities are in the policy and it is a little bit far from the real works.
About the outreach, in BA, I attended the IETF session. IETF will be held in BA next year. And this session introduced the IETF activities in Spanish. I had to rely on the translation though. This can be one of the templates of the outreach.
Maureen Hilyard
Thank you Yasuichi, There are a couple of very interesting action items.
So are you recommending that the ALAC targets the NREN/RedClara which is currently not so interested in ICANN, but to try to find some common ground? I see research as underpinning policy development - perhaps we could encourage their involvement in our ILEARN programme or to help RALOs build an appropriate set of capacity building webinars so that At-Large can better understand some of the issues we are asked to comment on.
Also, we could suggest in-house outreach/inreach with IEFT holding a session similar to that held in BA? As you say the format could be a template for sessions with other groups.
Yasuichi Kitamura
Maureen,
Yes. Of course, RedClara is for the South America region. In case of Africa, Ubuntu Alliance is the regional REN there. REN involves not only network technology area but also some other area, such as medical, agriculture, literature and others.
In Dublin, Irland has its own NREN, HEAnet (http://www.heanet.ie) and GÉANT is the regional REN in Europe.
In the developing countries, usually, NRENs are managed by the universities. So, your approach is correct, I think.
Important point is those users or the researchers of RENs are on the Internet, too. ICANN's issues are theirs. The outreach should show them ICANN's target is not only about the domain management but also, so called, the Internet governance which have to cover all the Internet related issues.
Vanda Scartezini
Some points ref Maureen + Kitamura
Maureen
DNS WOMEN is planning to have outreach activities during B model and in this case our focus will be women association, NGOs associations and some Universities, mor focused on business side to empower women in several opportunities into DNS industry.
totally agree with the local language. even government officers or head of organisations may not speak English.
Pre organization of course is fundamental and engagement of local community is key for success. this organization shall start as soon as we know which country will be the next model B.
of course my suggestion was to spread the outreach activities to the end of each day, allowing to reach more people adjusting better agendas, so I continue to support such alternative.
as overall, I agree with Maureen points and we can "refine" those and put them as our proposal to ALAC, the the division is quite interesting and we could start to work on it, as a whole group or two of us embrace one subitem =
1) I would include Local Coordination inside Pre -Visit ,
2) outreach day(s)
3) during the week or "at site"
Kitamura
I have been quite involved with the local member of Clara - RNP - and even Clara itself here in Latin America, they certainly are relevant , since they are responsible to improve connection among universities, research groups etc. I agree NOG meetings in the country, if exists could be a good group to coordinate with, the NICs too, as well as ISOC chapters. ALAC shall also focus on reaching no technical organisation, those that work with internet users issues like contracts with registrars, reselling problems, local constrains that may be escalated , access to IDN , problems to access new gTLDs etc.