Gisella Gruber: (11/24/2015 16:32) Welcome to the ALAC Monthly Teleconference on Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 19:00 UTC
Gisella Gruber: (16:46) Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/3rZYAw
Alan Greenberg: (18:45) I added some attachments under agenda item 11 which wewill be using. Presume you captured them.
wafa Dahmani: (18:46) hi Alan
wafa Dahmani: (18:46) Hi Giselle
Alan Greenberg: (18:47) Hi Wafa
Gisella Gruber: (18:53) Welcome all!
VANDA: (18:53) hi all! not be able to talk today. I am in a client in a system homologation proccess, but can hear and write.
Ron Sherwood: (18:55) Hello everyone
VANDA: (18:56) hi Ron
Holly Raiche: (18:57) Hello all
Siranush Vardanyan: (18:57) hi all
VANDA: (18:57) hi Sira
VANDA: (18:57) hi Holly
Siranush Vardanyan: (18:57) hi Vanda
Holly Raiche: (18:59) Hi Gisella
wafa Dahmani: (18:59) +21698349943
Holly Raiche: (18:59) Still waiting for a dial out
Beran Gillen: (19:00) Hello everyone
Maureen HILYARD: (19:00) @Holly.. same
Holly Raiche: (19:00) Dial out number 61 2 9436 2149
Christopher Wilkinson (CW): (19:00) Good evening all, CW
VANDA: (19:00) hi Christopher
Garth Bruen: (19:01) Hello all
VANDA: (19:02) hi garth
Harold Arcos: (19:02) Hi all.
Glenn McKnight: (19:02) Hi
VANDA: (19:04) hi Glenn
Maureen HILYARD: (19:05) Of course, please start
Heidi Ullrich: (19:06) Welcome, All!
Wolf Ludwig: (19:08) ?@Gisella: may be I have overheard it but did you list my name under the attendees?
Ariel Liang: (19:09) https://newatlarge.icann.org/policy-summary
Gisella Gruber: (19:09) @ Wolf - Mea Culpa!! Will add you now
Wolf Ludwig: (19:09) Thanks!
Holly Raiche: (19:14) @ Ariel - I like the way the new policy page works
Holly Raiche: (19:14) Congratulations
Ariel Liang: (19:14) @Holly - great to hear!
wafa Dahmani: (19:14) @Holly me too :)
Siranush Vardanyan: (19:15) congrats once again to new addition in EURALO
wafa Dahmani: (19:15) congrats jimmy
Gisella Gruber: (19:16) Otunte has joined the call
Gisella Gruber: (19:16) Sanfra has joined the call
sandra hoferichter: (19:16) Hi all, sorry for beeing late.
Garth Bruen: (19:16) We should TRY to reconnect with lost ALSes FIRST
Gisella Gruber: (19:16) At-Large reports from WG’s, RALO’s and Liaisons: https://community.icann.org/x/XwCB
Gisella Gruber: (19:17) Dev Anand has joined the call
Wolf Ludwig: (19:17) Thanks Siranush! Would like to have the new ALS rep. at the call ;-)
Holly Raiche: (19:17) Maybe note that the PPSAI is finalising its final report - is a big one
Holly Raiche: (19:17) And congratulations to James - finally Chair!
Otunte Otueneh: (19:18) Hello all
Siranush Vardanyan: (19:18) APRALO's report for November had been posted today, prior to ALAC meeting. Just FYI
Holly Raiche: (19:20) This will be an important issue for us
Wolf Ludwig: (19:20) @Garth: "reconnect with lost ALSes" here would be a waste of time and energy! We tried to contact and involve them over years -- without any response or feedback.
Garth Bruen: (19:21) @Wolf, then perhaps an "exit interview" or survey, can we learn something from lost ALSes?
Wolf Ludwig: (19:22) What do you expect to learn from them when they NEVER respond?
VANDA: (19:22) interesting...
Holly Raiche: (19:22) I really was a bit of a mess
Siranush Vardanyan: (19:22) we also tried to reconnect with inactive ALSs, collecting metrics now for the whole 2015 and may come up with some for excluding from being our member ALS in future
Garth Bruen: (19:23) @Wolf, perhaps the work did not meet their expectations
Alan Greenberg: (19:25) Can we have the clean revised version in the pod?
Siranush Vardanyan: (19:25) @Garth. sometimes they even do not have any expectations and found themselves not in the right place and prefer to be silent, which we would not prefer to have just being counted as number of ALSs
wafa Dahmani: (19:26) @Alan I agree the changes made
Wolf Ludwig: (19:26) Then they had any chance to let us know that our work "didn't meet their expectations"! They were certified once and never showed any interest afterwards. I believe it's simply a question of changing people in the ALSes and their successors don't even know or care ...
Siranush Vardanyan: (19:27) yes, Wolf, changes in the ALS is another problem as wepl
Siranush Vardanyan: (19:27) as well
wafa Dahmani: (19:28) we can see that in the gtld Marketplace healthIndex proposal there's a focus in consumer trust
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:28) Good summary Garth
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:28) and good for following up
VANDA: (19:29) guess we all support the changes done
Holly Raiche: (19:29) Agree with the points Garth made
Garth Bruen: (19:29) Thanks
wafa Dahmani: (19:29) @Vanda I think yes
wafa Dahmani: (19:30) @Garth good summary
Garth Bruen: (19:30) Yes Wafa, and that should be in the whole system
Gisella Gruber: (19:31) Meetings A, B and C have been posted on the agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/3rZYAw
wafa Dahmani: (19:31) @Garth I support
Garth Bruen: (19:31) All, Thank you for your support
Harold Arcos: (19:31) Please zoom in slides
wafa Dahmani: (19:32) Hi Beran
wafa Dahmani: (19:32) we can't hear you
Garth Bruen: (19:33) Still here
Holly Raiche: (19:33) @ Harold - you have the faciliy to zoom in on your computer
Harold Arcos: (19:33) thanks Gisella
wafa Dahmani: (19:34) I guess Heidi is laughing
wafa Dahmani: (19:34) Hi Heidi how are you
Beran Gillen: (19:35) hi am here
Beran Gillen: (19:35) had audio issues
Beran Gillen: (19:35) sorry
Holly Raiche: (19:35) @Siranush - suggestions
VANDA: (19:35) come on people we can work well together....
Heidi Ullrich: (19:35) HI All, please put your hand up if you wish to speak
Siranush Vardanyan: (19:36) I think Satish was interested in this?
Heidi Ullrich: (19:36) Alan can see the order of those who would like to speak
Heidi Ullrich: (19:36) You can raise your hand by clicking on the icon at the top left of the screnn that shows a person with their hand up
Maureen HILYARD: (19:37) I'll second Holly's nomination on behalf of APRALO
Siranush Vardanyan: (19:37) seconded for Holly's candidacy
Maureen HILYARD: (19:38) Siranush can find a volunteer from the APRALO community
Harold Arcos: (19:38) @Holly, I can not, it is disabled.
Harold Arcos: (19:38) no problem, have link.
Holly Raiche: (19:38) Sorry Harold - maybe work with Ariel ?
Siranush Vardanyan: (19:38) of course , we can:)
wafa Dahmani: (19:41) I support the suggestion of Sébastien
Siranush Vardanyan: (19:42) noted
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (19:42) you had two abstention Tim and Seun
Gisella Gruber: (19:53) Le-Marie Thompson has joined the call
VANDA: (19:57) difficult to understand
wafa Dahmani: (19:57) we can't hear you clearly Beran
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (19:57) we have 2 Berans
wafa Dahmani: (19:58) 2 Berans
wafa Dahmani: (19:58) !!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (19:58) one Beran's vioce is delayed by several seconds and the other Beran is in real time
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (19:58) it's the problem with Adobe Connect which sometimes lags by 30 seconds or more
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (19:58) Beran's on Audio Bridge now
Pierre DOVONOU (Benin): (20:00) Can the operator call me back ?
Pierre DOVONOU (Benin): (20:00) I am no longer online
Heidi Ullrich: (20:01) @Alan, we can address the issue as we get closer to Meeting A re the speakers for the ALT meeting
Gisella Gruber: (20:01) @ Pierre- we will call you
Pierre DOVONOU (Benin): (20:02) thanks
Gisella Gruber: (20:05) Daniel Nanghaka has joined the call
Daniel Nanghaka K: (20:05) Sorry I am late
Gisella Gruber: (20:05) Welcome!
Heidi Ullrich: (20:08) Please note that the NARALO GA in PR at Meeting C still must be approved officially
Garth Bruen: (20:11) Neither do we Tim!
Garth Bruen: (20:11) Tim, the burden is on ALAC to EXPLAIN the issues
Holly Raiche: (20:12) @ Garth and Tim - yes,need to explain but agree with Alan - give us time to look at the schedule first
Holly Raiche: (20:14) Will this be put on the website so we can have a look?
Jullie Hammer: (20:15) Holly, Links are in the agenda for this meeting.
Holly Raiche: (20:15) For Sydney - this is GREAT
Garth Bruen: (20:16) Hoppy rotating times
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (20:17) but Now you know Alan
Siranush Vardanyan: (20:18) this is already passed 12 midnight for me and having regional secretariat meeting right after this, will be 1:30 am my time:)
Holly Raiche: (20:18) My pleasure - sometimes, one has to say that the
VANDA: (20:19) at least is about be fair with colleagues
VANDA: (20:20) kisses to Sophia
wafa Dahmani: (20:20) soo cute
Garth Bruen: (20:20) too cute
Siranush Vardanyan: (20:20) :) great intervention
Gisella Gruber: (20:20) At-Large Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability 2nd Draft Report (Work Stream 1) Workspace :https://community.icann.org/x/a45CAw
Gisella Gruber: (20:21) CCWG Timeline: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Monthly+Teleconference+-+2015.11.24?preview=/56145630/56149196/CCWG%20Timeline%20%281%29.pdf
Le-Marie Thompson: (20:28) can someone put the link in the chat? I don't see it in the Agenda box.
Gisella Gruber: (20:28) ALAC Comments on 2nd Draft -https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Monthly+Teleconference+-+2015.11.24?preview=/56145630/56149197/ALAC-Comment-final-review.pdf
Le-Marie Thompson: (20:29) Thanks!
Holly Raiche: (20:32) I just need time to read and digest
Le-Marie Thompson: (20:36) don't know what the question it
VANDA: (20:39) if not followed from the beginning may be difficult to get it now. there was thousands of small changes
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (20:39) only GAC has the extra difference by the Board to Consensus Advice from the gac.
VANDA: (20:41) there are lots of politics behind the solution that I beleive will finalize well
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (20:45) I am happy to support the EU proposal re ST18 Language ForcST18. but could except Thomas's although texting needs be and enough GAC. agrees...I see no pointing forcing terms like 'Formal' over 'significant' relating to GAC member objections
Siranush Vardanyan: (20:52) yes
Wolf Ludwig: (20:54) I hope that "Security" will not be abused -- once again -- for or against the Marrakesh meeting. As we have seen, Europe is not a safer place at all!
Heidi Ullrich: (20:55) We have lost Aziz
Heidi Ullrich: (21:00) All ICANN supported travellers will be housed in the venue.
Gisella Gruber: (21:03) Barrack is not on the call
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (21:03) thank you
Siranush Vardanyan: (21:03) great meeting is expected
VANDA: (21:03) thank you AZIZ. looks great agenda.
VANDA: (21:07) check ID - good initiative, even if cretes more time to register is a good action. people will start in different time, different from UN control focused on smae time/same day
Jullie Hammer: (21:09) Apologies but I have to leave to join an SSAC Meeting. Bye everyone!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:10) In any case -- the bottom line is that the plae is as secure as it can be, which is reassuring
Gisella Gruber: (21:10) Bye Julie!
wafa Dahmani: (21:10) bye Julie
Ariel Liang: (21:11) updated document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xC5pxWr4uzkU_Uoi3guGFEFrP9LHYk_KV11mRlBcqWQ/edit?pli=1
Sébastien: (21:11) Then that not for us END USERS!!!!
Heidi Ullrich: (21:11) @Seb, pleaes see the new commetns
Sébastien: (21:11) Thanks Alan
Heidi Ullrich: (21:11) end users are explicitly noted now
Gisella Gruber: (21:11) Civil Society ink: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xC5pxWr4uzkU_Uoi3guGFEFrP9LHYk_KV11mRlBcqWQ/edit?pli=1
Sébastien: (21:11) not in the tittle
Sébastien: (21:12) and that the more important
Heidi Ullrich: (21:12) @Seb, please note that in your commetns onthe page
Heidi Ullrich: (21:12) we welcome that
Ron Sherwood: (21:12) Thank you all, Bye for now
Daniel Nanghaka K: (21:13) Bye
Alan Greenberg: (21:13) olivier - new hand?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:13) yes
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:13) just a quick queston for you to close off
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (21:13) Will post about the updated Civil Society document to the Outreach and ENgagement SC
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:13) 10 seconds
Alan Greenberg: (21:13) question for aziz or statement?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:14) Ststement
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (21:16) thanks everyone... bye for now... talk to some of you soon...
VANDA: (21:16) thank you, very good session!!!
Maureen HILYARD: (21:16) A busy meeting.. but very productive
wafa Dahmani: (21:16) thanks everyone
Kaili Kan: (21:16) Thanks to all ! Bye
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:16) very productive. Thanks!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (21:16) Take care all
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:16) bye all
sandra hoferichter: (21:16) bye bye!
Siranush Vardanyan: (21:16) thank you, excellrnt call and bye for now
Ariel Liang: (21:16) thanks all
wafa Dahmani: (21:16) bye all
Heidi Ullrich: (21:16) Please note Policy staff will be in a workshop all next week
Otunte Otueneh: (21:16) bye all
Heidi Ullrich: (21:16) so email responses will be delayed
Gisella Gruber: (21:16) Thank you all!
Gisella Gruber: (11/24/2015 16:32) Welcome to the ALAC Monthly Teleconference on Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 19:00 UTC