Gisella Gruber: (11/24/2015 16:32) Welcome to the ALAC Monthly Teleconference on Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 19:00 UTC
  Gisella Gruber: (16:46) Agenda:
  Alan Greenberg: (18:45) I added some attachments under agenda item 11 which wewill be using. Presume you captured them.
  wafa Dahmani: (18:46) hi Alan
  wafa Dahmani: (18:46) Hi Giselle
  Alan Greenberg: (18:47) Hi Wafa
  Gisella Gruber: (18:53) Welcome all!
  VANDA: (18:53) hi all! not be able to talk today. I am in  a client in a system homologation proccess, but can hear and write.
  Ron Sherwood: (18:55) Hello everyone
  VANDA: (18:56) hi Ron
  Holly Raiche: (18:57) Hello all
  Siranush Vardanyan: (18:57) hi all
  VANDA: (18:57) hi Sira
  VANDA: (18:57) hi Holly
  Siranush Vardanyan: (18:57) hi Vanda
  Holly Raiche: (18:59) Hi Gisella
  wafa Dahmani: (18:59) +21698349943
  Holly Raiche: (18:59) Still waiting for a dial out
  Beran Gillen: (19:00) Hello everyone
  Maureen HILYARD: (19:00) @Holly.. same
  Holly Raiche: (19:00) Dial out number 61 2 9436 2149
  Christopher Wilkinson (CW): (19:00) Good evening all, CW
  VANDA: (19:00) hi Christopher
  Garth Bruen: (19:01) Hello all
  VANDA: (19:02) hi garth
  Harold Arcos: (19:02) Hi all.
  Glenn McKnight: (19:02) Hi
  VANDA: (19:04) hi Glenn
  Maureen HILYARD: (19:05) Of course, please start
  Heidi Ullrich: (19:06) Welcome, All!
  Wolf Ludwig: (19:08) ?@Gisella: may be I have overheard it but did you list my name under the attendees?
  Ariel Liang: (19:09)
  Gisella Gruber: (19:09) @ Wolf - Mea Culpa!! Will add you now
  Wolf Ludwig: (19:09) Thanks!
  Holly Raiche: (19:14) @ Ariel - I like the way the new policy page works
  Holly Raiche: (19:14) Congratulations
  Ariel Liang: (19:14) @Holly - great to hear!
  wafa Dahmani: (19:14) @Holly me too :)
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:15) congrats once again to new addition in EURALO
  wafa Dahmani: (19:15) congrats jimmy
  Gisella Gruber: (19:16) Otunte has joined the call
  Gisella Gruber: (19:16) Sanfra has joined the call
  sandra hoferichter: (19:16) Hi all, sorry for beeing late.
  Garth Bruen: (19:16) We should TRY to reconnect with lost ALSes FIRST
  Gisella Gruber: (19:16) At-Large reports from WG’s, RALO’s and Liaisons:
  Gisella Gruber: (19:17) Dev Anand has joined the call
  Wolf Ludwig: (19:17) Thanks Siranush! Would like to have the new ALS rep. at the call ;-)
  Holly Raiche: (19:17) Maybe note that the PPSAI is finalising its final report - is a big one
  Holly Raiche: (19:17) And congratulations to James - finally Chair!
  Otunte Otueneh: (19:18) Hello all
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:18) APRALO's report for November had been posted today, prior to ALAC meeting. Just FYI
  Holly Raiche: (19:20) This will be an important issue for us
  Wolf Ludwig: (19:20) @Garth: "reconnect with lost ALSes" here would be a waste of time and energy! We tried to contact and involve them over years -- without any response or feedback.
  Garth Bruen: (19:21) @Wolf, then perhaps an "exit interview" or survey, can we learn something from lost ALSes?
  Wolf Ludwig: (19:22) What do you expect to learn from them when they NEVER respond?
  VANDA: (19:22) interesting...
  Holly Raiche: (19:22) I really was a bit of a mess
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:22) we also tried to reconnect with inactive ALSs, collecting metrics now for the whole 2015 and may come up with some for excluding from being our member ALS in future
  Garth Bruen: (19:23) @Wolf, perhaps the work did not meet their expectations
  Alan Greenberg: (19:25) Can we have the clean revised version in the pod?
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:25) @Garth. sometimes they even do not have any expectations and found themselves not in the right place and prefer to be silent, which we would not prefer to have just being counted as number of ALSs
  wafa Dahmani: (19:26) @Alan I agree the changes made
  Wolf Ludwig: (19:26) Then they had any chance to let us know that our work "didn't meet their expectations"! They were certified once and never showed any interest afterwards. I believe it's simply a question of changing people in the ALSes and their successors don't even know or care ...
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:27) yes, Wolf, changes in the ALS is another problem as wepl
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:27) as well
  wafa Dahmani: (19:28) we can see that in the gtld Marketplace healthIndex proposal  there's a focus in consumer trust
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:28) Good summary Garth
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:28) and good for following up
  VANDA: (19:29) guess we all support the changes done
  Holly Raiche: (19:29) Agree with the points Garth made
  Garth Bruen: (19:29) Thanks
  wafa Dahmani: (19:29) @Vanda I think yes
  wafa Dahmani: (19:30) @Garth good summary
  Garth Bruen: (19:30) Yes Wafa, and that should be in the whole system
  Gisella Gruber: (19:31) Meetings A, B and C have been posted on the agenda page:
  wafa Dahmani: (19:31) @Garth I support
  Garth Bruen: (19:31) All, Thank you for your support
  Harold Arcos: (19:31) Please zoom in slides
  wafa Dahmani: (19:32) Hi Beran
  wafa Dahmani: (19:32) we can't hear you
  Garth Bruen: (19:33) Still here
  Holly Raiche: (19:33) @ Harold - you have the faciliy to zoom in on your computer
  Harold Arcos: (19:33) thanks Gisella
  wafa Dahmani: (19:34) I guess Heidi is laughing
  wafa Dahmani: (19:34) Hi Heidi how are you
  Beran Gillen: (19:35) hi am here
  Beran Gillen: (19:35) had audio issues
  Beran Gillen: (19:35) sorry
  Holly Raiche: (19:35) @Siranush - suggestions
  VANDA: (19:35) come on people we can work well together....
  Heidi Ullrich: (19:35) HI All, please put your hand up if you wish to speak
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:36) I think Satish was interested in this?
  Heidi Ullrich: (19:36) Alan can see the order of those who would like to speak
  Heidi Ullrich: (19:36) You can raise your hand by clicking on the icon at the top left of the screnn that shows a person with their hand up
  Maureen HILYARD: (19:37) I'll second Holly's nomination on behalf of APRALO
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:37) seconded for Holly's candidacy
  Maureen HILYARD: (19:38) Siranush can find a volunteer from the APRALO community
  Harold Arcos: (19:38) @Holly, I can not, it is disabled.
  Harold Arcos: (19:38) no problem, have link.
  Holly Raiche: (19:38) Sorry Harold - maybe work with Ariel ?
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:38) of course , we can:)
  wafa Dahmani: (19:41) I support the suggestion of Sébastien
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:42) noted
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (19:42) you had two abstention Tim and Seun
  Gisella Gruber: (19:53) Le-Marie Thompson  has joined the call
  VANDA: (19:57) difficult to understand
  wafa Dahmani: (19:57) we can't hear you clearly Beran
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (19:57) we have 2 Berans
  wafa Dahmani: (19:58) 2 Berans
  wafa Dahmani: (19:58) !!
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (19:58) one Beran's vioce is delayed by several seconds and the other Beran is in real time
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (19:58) it's the problem with Adobe Connect which sometimes lags by 30 seconds or more
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (19:58) Beran's on Audio Bridge now
  Pierre DOVONOU (Benin): (20:00) Can the operator call me back ?
  Pierre DOVONOU (Benin): (20:00) I am no longer online
  Heidi Ullrich: (20:01) @Alan, we can address the issue as we get closer to Meeting A re the speakers for the ALT meeting
  Gisella Gruber: (20:01) @ Pierre- we will call you
  Pierre DOVONOU (Benin): (20:02) thanks
  Gisella Gruber: (20:05) Daniel Nanghaka has joined the call
  Daniel Nanghaka K: (20:05) Sorry I am late
  Gisella Gruber: (20:05) Welcome!
  Heidi Ullrich: (20:08) Please note that the NARALO GA in PR at Meeting C still must be approved officially
  Garth Bruen: (20:11) Neither do we Tim!
  Garth Bruen: (20:11) Tim, the burden is on ALAC to EXPLAIN the issues
  Holly Raiche: (20:12) @ Garth and Tim - yes,need to explain but agree with Alan - give us time to look at the schedule first
  Holly Raiche: (20:14) Will this be put on the website so we can have a look?
  Jullie Hammer: (20:15) Holly, Links are in the agenda for this meeting.
  Holly Raiche: (20:15) For Sydney - this is GREAT
  Garth Bruen: (20:16) Hoppy rotating times
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (20:17) but Now you know Alan
  Siranush Vardanyan: (20:18) this is already passed 12 midnight for me and having regional secretariat meeting right after this, will be 1:30 am my time:)
  Holly Raiche: (20:18) My pleasure - sometimes, one has to say that the
  VANDA: (20:19) at least is about be fair with colleagues
  VANDA: (20:20) kisses to Sophia
  wafa Dahmani: (20:20) soo cute
  Garth Bruen: (20:20) too cute
  Siranush Vardanyan: (20:20) :) great intervention
  Gisella Gruber: (20:20) At-Large Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability 2nd Draft Report (Work Stream 1) Workspace :
  Gisella Gruber: (20:21) CCWG Timeline:
  Le-Marie Thompson: (20:28) can someone put the link in the chat? I don't see it in the Agenda box.
  Gisella Gruber: (20:28) ALAC Comments on 2nd Draft -
  Le-Marie Thompson: (20:29) Thanks!
  Holly Raiche: (20:32) I just need time to read and digest
  Le-Marie Thompson: (20:36) don't know what the question it
  VANDA: (20:39) if not followed from the beginning may be difficult to get it now. there was thousands of small changes
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (20:39) only GAC has the extra difference by the Board to Consensus Advice from the gac.
  VANDA: (20:41) there are lots of politics behind the solution that I beleive will finalize well
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (20:45) I am happy to support the EU proposal re ST18 Language ForcST18. but could except Thomas's although texting needs be and enough GAC. agrees...I see no pointing forcing terms like 'Formal'  over 'significant' relating to GAC  member objections
  Siranush Vardanyan: (20:52) yes
  Wolf Ludwig: (20:54) I hope that "Security" will not be abused -- once again -- for or against the Marrakesh meeting. As we have seen, Europe is not a safer place at all!
  Heidi Ullrich: (20:55) We have lost Aziz
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:00) All ICANN supported travellers will be housed in the venue.
  Gisella Gruber: (21:03) Barrack is not on the call
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (21:03) thank you
  Siranush Vardanyan: (21:03) great meeting is expected
  VANDA: (21:03) thank you AZIZ. looks great agenda.
  VANDA: (21:07) check ID - good initiative, even if cretes more time to register is a good action. people will start in different time, different from UN control focused on smae time/same day
  Jullie Hammer: (21:09) Apologies but I have to leave to join an SSAC Meeting.  Bye everyone!
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:10) In any case -- the bottom line is that the plae is as secure as it can be, which is reassuring
  Gisella Gruber: (21:10) Bye Julie!
  wafa Dahmani: (21:10) bye Julie
  Ariel Liang: (21:11) updated document:
  Sébastien: (21:11) Then that not for us END USERS!!!!
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:11) @Seb, pleaes see the new commetns
  Sébastien: (21:11) Thanks Alan
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:11) end users are explicitly noted now
  Gisella Gruber: (21:11) Civil Society ink:
  Sébastien: (21:11) not in the tittle
  Sébastien: (21:12) and that the more important
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:12) @Seb, please note that in your commetns onthe page
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:12) we welcome that
  Ron Sherwood: (21:12) Thank you all, Bye for now
  Daniel Nanghaka K: (21:13) Bye
  Alan Greenberg: (21:13) olivier - new hand?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:13) yes
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:13) just a quick queston for you to close off
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (21:13) Will post about the updated Civil Society document to the Outreach and ENgagement SC
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:13) 10 seconds
  Alan Greenberg: (21:13) question for aziz or statement?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:14) Ststement
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (21:16) thanks everyone... bye for now... talk to some of you soon...
  VANDA: (21:16) thank you, very good session!!!
  Maureen HILYARD: (21:16) A busy meeting.. but very productive
  wafa Dahmani: (21:16) thanks everyone
  Kaili Kan: (21:16) Thanks to all !  Bye
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:16) very productive. Thanks!
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (21:16) Take care all
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:16) bye all
  sandra hoferichter: (21:16) bye bye!
  Siranush Vardanyan: (21:16) thank you, excellrnt call and bye for now
  Ariel Liang: (21:16) thanks all
  wafa Dahmani: (21:16) bye all
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:16) Please note Policy staff will be in a workshop all next week
  Otunte Otueneh: (21:16) bye all
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:16) so email responses will be delayed
  Gisella Gruber: (21:16) Thank you all!

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