Sergio Salinas Porto:hi everyone
  CLO:Hi there Sergio
  Sandra Hoferichter:hi Gisela, I lost connection could you please ask to call again.
  Yaovi Atohoun 2:Hi  Everyone. I wil join the call at 16:00
  Jose Arce:Hi All
  Sandra Hoferichter:thanks I am in again
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Good Morning from Fiji (4am)  here
  Cintra Sooknanan:Hi everyone
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:hello everyone
  CLO:And Ive been disconnected
  CLO:one of those days  AGAIN   GRRR
  CLO:this is hhappening WAY too much agin  I know  I live in an emerging and developing economy woth poor ICT and telco connections to the world  but!
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I confirm that I am hearing you all on the call
  Ganesh Kumar:Ganesh, here too.
  Evan Leibovitch:me too
  CLO:back
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Gisella, I'm sorry but the number for dial in doesn't work for Malaysia - it says number is not currently active.  Can you call me on my landline pls?
  Alan Greenberg:Can I have 2 minutes duringthe section on Liaison reports (or elsewhere) to raise an issue that requires serious ALAC attention in the very short term?
  Natalia Enciso:hi!
  Eduardo Diaz:I am here!
  CLO:Rinnalia  get a dial out to you
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am officially awake now
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
  Evan Leibovitch:By contrast, my waking state is to tally unofficial
  Sergio Salinas Porto:+54 0223 4715948
  Evan Leibovitch:4th tues of 2011 is also the 27th
  Evan Leibovitch:of december
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:+60320220441
  Natalia Enciso:Hello everyone!
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Natalia!
  TT:Hi all
  Cintra Sooknanan:Hi TT
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi TT
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Rinalia
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Sergio (hope you get the Spanish translation soon)
  Alan Greenberg:That doesn't sound good!
  TT:Hi on the call and here too
  Evan Leibovitch:my computer is penguin based
  Sergio Salinas Porto:hi sala !!!!!
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:my computer is not fruit based :)
  Natalia Enciso:Hi Sala!
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Natalia and Sergio :)
  Ganesh Kumar:@tijani: if we have time for that!
  Alan Greenberg:Tijani, good subject,(how to shorten calls, but unfortunately our call is too long to allow us to talk about it!   (Joke, perhaps).
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Excellent pronounciation Heidi :)
  Edmon:I might have missed the roll call
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Interesting agenda item by Tijani
  Edmon:anyway I am here too
  Cintra Sooknanan:lol @ Alan
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Can't seem to get a dial out
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Charles is in flight I think
  Edmon:thx cheryl :-D
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:oops sorry blame it on the sleep
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:wrong forum
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:apologies
  CLO:Rinalia  does  staff have a number to call YOU ion *ADIGO  will dial out to you
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello all
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Heidi has the number and working on it
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am not following with the Action Items that Olivier is referring to
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Do you mean the stuff on my right
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Noted
  Heidi Ullrich:Link to the AIs:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Action+Items+23-27+October+-+Dakar+Meeting
  Matt Ashtiani:https://community.icann.org/x/GwDPAQ- ALAC Action Items 23-27 October - Dakar Meeting
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:got in!
  Heidi Ullrich:Welcome!
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Thanks!!
  CLO:Yea!  at last
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am seeing it for the first time, thanks for the link Heidi
  CLO:best to order a standing  dial out  then  they do those 5-10 mins  before stsrt time...
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:agreed!
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Web links on the "Web Links 2" box are out of date or not for this meeting
  CLO:yes  I niticed  that  :-(
  CLO:Beat me to it  Heidi  Process is the vote accepts  or not the advice  sent
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Our ALS has not received anything
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:but we received a bulletin from Tracy Hackshaw
  Eduardo Diaz:How the status for each action item is going to be added to the list?
  Natalia Enciso:I will need a call back, please!
  Sergio Salinas Porto:is the call of Natalia
  CLO:Mechanisms  do indeed exist for this  and as such it needs to be wrapped in woth the Metrics  sub group
  Sergio Salinas Porto:@¶olivier, I would take the Falklands and integrate the WG ... I should do?
  Evan Leibovitch:I for one like the format of the action item page .... nice work, Matt
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Like the format and layout the Actions Items
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Indeed, nice work, Matt
  Natalia Enciso:I am back, thanks!
  Heidi Ullrich:Rinalia, are you not on the call?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Have you got your translation yet?
  Heidi Ullrich:We'll correct the issue of the AI - Tijani is not responsible for the nomenclature AI
  Sergio Salinas Porto:Sorry Falklands or Malvinas ;)
  Eduardo Diaz:How are we goig to capture all these status reports in the wiki action item page?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Which one are we on
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am just clicking on the triangles now
  Sergio Salinas Porto:I can not speak, but if you write on here ....
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:i'm in Heidi.  Listening!
  Heidi Ullrich:Great!
  Sergio Salinas Porto:I intergrade a wg on the Malvinas, is not what he asked? or misunderstood?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:it was just the issue re: Malvinas in the Geo Regions wg; I expect this issue to be mentioned in our statement.
  Sebastien:http://newgtlds.icann.org/program-status/upcoming-events
  Sebastien:=Road show
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:It would be great if the Action Items can be moving on the right of our Adobe Connect Room
  Heidi Ullrich:Link to new gTLD events:http://newgtlds.icann.org/program-status/upcoming-events
  Natalia Enciso:agree @sala
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Trying to follow the action items screen means going to another screen and coming back to this, is a nightmare when you are just waking up
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:and it's all super fast
  Silvia Vivanco:Sergio has clarified his idea regarding Malvinas. He has expressed his willingness to take part of the Working Group
  Sebastien:You maybe discuss that with the CHiar of the PPC ;)
  CLO:@Sala  I open two screens  but minimise each to take only half the screen  and I'm on a 11" screen  seems to work  for me better
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:i normally do that when I am drafting but the font size of the adobe does not allow me to do that
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I would not be able to read and would have to reset
  Natalia Enciso:agree with @Sala, going to fast to change from one windows to another.
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:[Suggestion, perhaps Chair can ask for progress reports on the Action items and this is summarised and placed on wiki or something and anything that stands out or demands discussions can then be addressed
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:so we can read before we come and address only the outstanding issues
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:that or please slow down 2 paces to allow us to follow well
  Natalia Enciso:agre @Sala LOL
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Better pace now
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry - I feel time pressures
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:hence the suggestion above
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Much better pace
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:easy to follow and understand
  Natalia Enciso:thanks
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Olivier
  CLO:NCSG  NOIT  NCUC
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Hello Sala -- suggestion taken re: report, but we need to read through the list for the record
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Your discretion Chair
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Mere proposal from a fly on the wall
  Sandra Hoferichter:This is done
  Sandra Hoferichter:we received the material
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Awesome
  CLO:we do of  course have thr commoms  created out of the Board  requested  joint  GNSO ALAC  wg  on  end user involvement in GNSO  wher at tthat stage   the NCUC  and ALAC   agreed to have the Commins  space  that could be repurposed  for NCSG : ALAC / At-Large  use without  too mjch issue IF NCSG wishes
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:I'm fascinated by the fact that you can change text colour Sandra
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Me too
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:absolutely fascinated
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2::-) It can be done by anyone
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:could come in handy during Lacralo calls....
  CLO:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Consumer+Commons
  TT:Yes it can.
  TT:re: Voting link svp? or via email?
  TT:No clear info how/where vote takes place :d
  TT:Newbie question
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:look at the top right corner of chat - there is a icon - click on that - there is a dropdown menu to set colour option
  Sandra Hoferichter:we should allocate colours to the regions:)
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Dev
  Cintra Sooknanan 2::O ... thanks!
  Sergio Salinas Porto:on the topic of "online interpretations" had requested that the minimum tax for interpretation beyond are two (2) what happened to that?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I just got dropped from the call.
  Heidi Ullrich:We'll have Adigo to call you back
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Thanks.
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Sorry you got dropped and interesting comment by Sergio
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:Sergio you mean if there are at least 2 members not the original 3 she stated...
  Sergio Salinas Porto:agree tijiani...
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:What's that sound?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I see
  TT:its probably someone got disconnected
  Heidi Ullrich:Jose had to leave.
  CLO:perhaps Kristina  has had to rethink her position based on looking at the cost ramifications  etc.,
  TT:rinlaia are you back onthe call?
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:no
  CLO:we need ti get  Rinalia back on
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:Also there seems to be some inconsistency on what members recall Christina stated as the minimum
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:back in now.
  TT:OK.
  TT:re: vote respond via email/confluence has a voting space? its not clear.
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Great, re: LACRALO advice on ISOC-CR
  TT:Maybe just for me though...:-d
  TT:Ok. All via email ? Not via some gizmo online :D
  TT:Ok. Thks Olivier I get it.
  TT:I keep looking for a link to some online voting gizmo...:d
  Oksana Prykhodko:Olivier, could you please send link to these reports?
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Link to reports :https://community.icann.org/x/XwCB
  Oksana Prykhodko:Thank you, Dev
  Evan Leibovitch: I believe Carlton said he would be in transit today
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Dev
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:https://community.icann.org/x/XwCB
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:This is the first time I am seeing the link to the reports
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am not on the call got dropped off
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:can somebody re-dial and add me please
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:I did update the PAD before the call :https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtasV2tOgnqxdEtybGhDb3NweG5mZXdZXzlSMzlTdVE
  Evan Leibovitch:The FoI appears to be relevant to the ccTLD delegation issues that provoked a -- lively -- debate within NARALO about the transfer of ".pr"
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am only seeing the chat transcript
  Natalia Enciso:one silly question about deadlines fror public comments: are they added to google calendar?
  Evan Leibovitch:Was someone just popping corn?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am requesting the kind assistance of staff to please get me into the call, please
  Heidi Ullrich:Workspace to IRD PC:https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30344220
  Heidi Ullrich:Framework of Interpretation WG:https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30344220
  CLO:Agreed Alan
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Mr Chair, I can't follow the meeting as am not on the call
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::(
  CLO:Do you need a dial out  Sala
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Yes please
  CLO:I'll ask STAFF to confoirm  they are doing this then
  CLO:they being ADOGO
  CLO:ADIGO
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:They have just reconnected me
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Cheryl
  CLO:phew
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:phew is right
  Gisella Gruber-White:Ganesh may have left and following on AC room
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:good to follow again
  TT:Don't think Ganesh is on the call anymore
  Gisella Gruber-White:He is not on the call
  Evan Leibovitch:or ac
  Gisella Gruber-White:He has left the call
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:What's Group 2?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I see
  Sebastien:Can you wait for Avri to join?
  Heidi Ullrich:Link to the At-Large Workspace on GeoRegions:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Geographic+Regions+Review+Workspace
  Sebastien:You can't disband the JAS they need to do the final final repport after the comment period
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:@Natalia  - re: deadlines for public comments being added to calendar - no, however I believe the Public Comments Wiki Prototype undergoing testing does have some form of calendar showing policy start dates and close dates
  Gisella Gruber-White:Ganesh had to leave the call
  Sebastien:And then GNSO and ALAC will have to decide any follow up
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ok; thx
  Natalia Enciso:thanks @Dev! that would be of great help
  Alan Greenberg:OLD - breaking up badly. Sounds like packet loss.
  Alan Greenberg:OCL!!
  CLO:yup almost  good old  ship to shore
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I am using Skype & evening traffic here
  Heidi Ullrich:Please refresh the agenda page. The At-Large Workspaces, where they exist, have been posted on the agenda.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:the only thing I can think of is to switch to a mobile phone dial-out if it gets too bad
  CLO:improved  now OCL
  Alan Greenberg:now ok
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Yes we can hear you
  Natalia Enciso:I will need a dial out again, please!
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:very clear, Olivier.
  Heidi Ullrich:We will have Adigo dial out to you,Natalia
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Indeed, re: need for LACRALO comments on Draft GeoRegions Final Report
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Board Technical Relations Working Group (BTRWG) – Final Report for Public Comment :http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-16nov11-en.htm
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Dev
  Natalia Enciso:thanks @Heidi
  Alan Greenberg:ETSI
  Natalia Enciso:back again, thanks
  Alan Greenberg:Seb. Breaking up a lot
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Muffled sound
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Perhaps if people can speak into the mouthpiece so we can hear, the joys of interconnection
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:The rest of the Group can comment on it
  Edmon::-D
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Interesting debate on the thick Whois vrs thin Whois
  CLO:I thought we had  unanimity as well  Oh  well
  CLO:perhaps we  ( the community needs to brief  / instruct  our  rep to the  Whois RT  then
  CLO:as to the consensus view
  CLO:Why would we do  part c when we did NIT  do A or B
  TT:Technical OLC
  TT:I can take a look at it though and give feed back?
  CLO:no we do not have a rep there
  CLO:unsure if we need to
  TT::-) Very hardly ever scared but thanks.
  TT:...
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:You should send a link to the archived readings etc, good on you Titi
  CLO:not a matter of being scared\it is a matter of effective input  and picking  where peoples energies are most effective / required
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:This is where the skills matrix will be useful so members can draw from counsel on various aspects
  TT:@CLO agree why the comment was made by myself...
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I had to file a COI as part of NomComm process. Does that count?
  Oksana Prykhodko:Agree with TT
  CLO:heree is the GNSO  new templates  my examplehttps://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Cheryl+Langdon-Orr+SOI
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I mean answer a COI question.
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Are we still on 7
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:templates on Close of interest
  CLO:heree is my home page inwiki to act as  continuous disclosre  about to be updated  BTW  https://community.icann.org/display/~cheryl.langdon-orr/Home
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes
  Matt Ashtiani:ICANN Board of Directors -http://www.icann.org/en/general/board.html
  CLO:STATEMENT  of Interest is better  term
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:or Declaration of Interest
  CLO:my home page ensures  I have no CoI issues ever arise
  CLO:as it act as Continuous Disclosure
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Yes there is a distinction
  Evan Leibovitch:Yes: generally if someone has a conflict of interest one would normally be excused from a discussion. Within ICANN people with financial interest are werlcome to participate and even dominate issues ... so long as they declare the interest ahead of time.
  CLO:yes  you disclose the CoI and wthdraw
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:agree with CLO
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:interest is not only financial
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:to arise in conflict
  CLO:indeed  not onky financial
  CLO:It also needs to be enshrined in the ROPs
  CLO: YES
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:yes of course, corporate governance
  CLO:and  require  our WG participants  to also  do SoI
  Eduardo Diaz:What is ROP?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:it should be Top Down
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Rules of Procedure
  Eduardo Diaz:Thnaks
  Heidi Ullrich:I count 10 ALAC members in the AC
  CLO:Rules Of Procedure]
  CLO:how we run
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:They are different
  TT:Technically SOI andCOI are quite different...except we are chooing in ourRoP to make dem same?
  Yaovi Atohoun 2:I am on the call now
  CLO:@edwardo   (and any other newbies )  here are the current RoPshttps://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Rules+of+Procedure
  CLO:now under radical review
  Natalia Enciso:thanks @CLO
  CLO:Rev 11 is the current
  Eduardo Diaz:@CLO - Thanks.
  CLO:I nite 11 is onky listed in EN  :-(  https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/AL-2007-1-1-Rev11+ALAC+Internal+Rules+of+Procedure+-EN.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1287527930000
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Alan, can you check your private chat pls?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Eunice
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:apologies
  CLO:we will ensure the new review  version is in all the UN langiages  _ selected others  ICANN uses and ALAC wants
  TT:@Cheryl Thanks for the RoP link
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I know this is limited to selection of co-chairs but would like the WG to consider the proposal that was submitted
  Oksana Prykhodko:I dropped out!
  TT:Thundersstorm at my end so have hd to mute microphone just inc ase there is intereference
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:i had commented on the methodology
  Natalia Enciso:cannot listen clearly
  TT:cannot hear Sandra clearly - echos
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:am liaising with APRALO to get feedback, have already consulted some of the ALS within APRALO
  Eduardo Diaz:Is there a wiki page for this ad hoc WG?
  TT::-( Did not understand /hear what sandra saidChair.
  Natalia Enciso:me neither @TT
  TT:a summary maybe?
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:I am disconnected please redial
  Eduardo Diaz:Please include me in this WG.
  Heidi Ullrich:Link to  ICANN Academy:https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/At-Large+ICANN+Academy+Ad-Hoc+Working+Group
  Sebastien:https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/ICANN+Academy+Proposal
  CLO:It is good practice to have co chairs  in many WG's  of the ALAC  that have global ramifications  to Regions and ALSes  though  ( or it has been to date) as it allows for multi time zone and language outreach etc.,  worth  thinking about  we DID need this approach  for the Summit WG's as they were  global \
  Oksana Prykhodko:i am back on call, but I do not hear anything
  Heidi Ullrich:Let me look into the issue, Oksana
  Oksana Prykhodko:Thanks, a little better
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Sandra, i would like to join your Working Group
  Yaovi Atohoun 2:I am interested to join this Academy WG
  Natalia Enciso:Is the WG for the ICann Academy? If so, I would like to join too.
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Natalia would you like to join too?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:awesome
  Natalia Enciso:yes @Sala
  Oksana Prykhodko:me too
  Heidi Ullrich:At-Large Workspace on JIG:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Workspace+for+Joint+ccNSO+and+GNSO+Working+Group+on+Single+Character+IDN+TLDs+-+November+2011
  Edmon:correct :-) thx cheryl
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:May I ask Staff to please take note of all people who have expressed interest in joining the ICANN Academy ad-hoc WG? Thanks
  Heidi Ullrich:Yes, Olivier.
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I strongly agree with Cheryl
  Tijani:Dropped
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:same with me
  Heidi Ullrich:Tijania, we'll cal you back
  Tijani:Can you plz make Adigo call me again
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:APRALO is severely affected by the exclusion from the board to consider IDN single characters in the first round
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:I would be interested in joining the ICANN Academy ad-hoc WG
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:ICANN bylars Article II(4)
  TT::-( Weather severly affecting my ability to hear anyone but OCL!!!
  Tijani:It's OK, I'm on the bridge again
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks to all who have expressed an interest in joining the ICANN Academy WG.
  Eduardo Diaz:I will have to drop off the call in a few minutes. Next time I will schedule more time for these.
  Natalia Enciso:@Heidi, got dropped again. Can Adigo call back?
  Sandra Hoferichter:Lost connection:)
  Sandra Hoferichter::(
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:lol
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Can someone please call Sandra and Natalia?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:They need a dial out,  please
  Heidi Ullrich:We will do so
  Alan Greenberg:We jumped over the Liaison reports with no opportunity to comment. Can I get in sometime before the meeting ends or the majority of people leave?
  Alan Greenberg:Subject is RAA and we really needt omobilize quickly.
  Sandra Hoferichter:back again thanks
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::) Thanks Staff
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hope Natalia will be back soon
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Will do Mr Chair
  Natalia Enciso:thanks @Sala, still waiting for the call
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Ditto @Sala
  Heidi Ullrich:Adigo is dialing everyone who has dropped.
  Sebastien:I am disconnected
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Heidi
  Natalia Enciso:back again, thanks @Heidi
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I don't need a dial out as I am on the call, thanks though
  CLO:Ive been discinnected AGAIN
  Evan Leibovitch:+1 Alan. We need to ensure that issues such as the "aspirational"  assertion of registrant and end user rights need to be within the scope of the issue report
  Sergio Salinas Porto: I am disconnected apologies...bye!
  Heidi Ullrich:FR interpretor has to stop. We are over two hours.
  Heidi Ullrich:Calling out to you, CLO
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Sorry which Agenda iten is this?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:the one that Alan was on?
  Natalia Enciso:I am lost too, due to call lost
  Alan Greenberg:Sala, that was a comment on my GNSO Liaison report - item 5
  CLO:As a member of BOTH the RAA WG's  A&B  happy to be part of this review
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Olivier is saying that it will be another 10 min
  Alan Greenberg:that we skipped over earlier.
  Natalia Enciso:thanks @Alan
  Oksana Prykhodko:I am extremely interested in ICANN Academy, but I missed the whole discussion( Can I find it later?
  CLO:still waiting for dial out   perhaps  i need to give them my number  ;'-)
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair also mentioned that translators have gone and invited people to switch to the English channel
  Heidi Ullrich:We are dialing CLO back
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair is commenting on "dropped off"
  Alan Greenberg:@oksana, MP3 will be posted soon.
  Sandra Hoferichter:@Oksana: we will keep you update
  CLO:must take a while to dial ]
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair is now referring to Budget Sub committee
  CLO:back
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair is mentioning the resource constraints prevent us from doing things
  Heidi Ullrich:Cheryl is back
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:and the relevance of budget Sub committee formerly called the At Large Finance Sub Committee
  Oksana Prykhodko:Great, thank you very much!
  TT:@ Chair able to committ some timeto the WC
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair is also inviting regional participation
  CLO:I will ask if APRALO  would  like to have me continue in the committee as the RALO rep for our Region  which gives some consotancy having been on it since 2006
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am only typing this until everyone is on call
  Alan Greenberg:@Evan, as noted in my report, staff interpretation is that issues are limited to those raised in the report. That is why it is so important to review the report.  HOWEVER, if issues we consider dear were not raised in that matter, it does warrant a direct comment to the Board...
  CLO:we need a REGIONAL  RALO rep 1 from each region  OR  are you changing it to an open  WG  *shudder*
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:is this Tijani?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:i see so everyone is back on?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Tijani Ben Jemaa
  Heidi Ullrich:Oksana, Adigo is getting a ring, no answer for you.
  Oksana Prykhodko:I am off, but I don't think it needs to call me again)
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Ok I will continue typing
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:in Lacralo it is currently jointly held between Sylvia and me
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Tijani also encouraged people to participate
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Finance+and+Budget
  TT:is Dave stil on the committee?
  Oksana Prykhodko:Sala< thank you very much! I will wait fot record!
  TT:Chair?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Cheryl raised some reservations
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:also from LACRALO, Jessel
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:so there is a difference between membership and finance liaison to the ralos
  Natalia Enciso:and #11? did you discissed it already?
  CLO:All our  WG's and SC ( to date)  are OPEN  and public Membership of the  B7F SC  needs to be  IMO  tigh, focussed and geographib=cally (as well as ALAC / At-Large  balanced one
  TT:@ Adigo/ICANN staff :) we need emoticons on this platform :)
  Alan Greenberg:That list is clearlty out of date (for NA in any case)
  CLO:Can we also  look to on this what we have said ti dat
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Chair is referring to what we think the Nominating Committee should consider in criteria for selection
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Oksana are you on call yet?
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:@Natalia re: agenda #11, At-Large Improvements, initially skipped as Cheryl was being dialled out
  Heidi Ullrich:Yaovi is unmuted
  CLO:https://community.icann.org/display/alacdocs/Resolution+on+Position+Description+for+ALAC+Members+and+ALAC+Liasons
  Natalia Enciso:thanks @Dev.
  CLO:this is what we have  On the record  on the characteristics
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:VOIP issues
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Cheryl
  Yaovi Atohoun 2:thank you.
  Tijani:I will leave in 20 min
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I agree
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2::-)
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Can I receive a dial out please?
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I know we are about to end
  CLO:At the hours  were up  we can but hope  so Sala ;-)
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:At-Large 360 Group Proposal Workspace :https://community.icann.org/x/PgfPAQ(click on the attachment)
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Dev
  Evan Leibovitch:I am lukewarm to the 360 idea. At best it will slow the CEO selection process and at worst it will politicisze it.
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:thanks for the dial out
  Heidi Ullrich:noted re 360 page
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:lol @ comments on "international"
  Heidi Ullrich:link to Beginners Guide on Participating in At-Large:https://community.icann.org/display/alacexcomm/Beginner%27s+Guide+to+Participating+in+At-Large
  Heidi Ullrich:Expected to be completed by Costa Rica
  Natalia Enciso:call dropped again :(
  Heidi Ullrich:calling you back
  Natalia Enciso:thanks!!!!!
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:The beginner's guide is great and we can send our comments offline
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:The work is appreciated
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:+1 Sala
  Evan Leibovitch:I have a hard stop at 40 past the hour.
  Natalia Enciso:+1
  Natalia Enciso:back agian! thanks
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:It was great to see the capacity building in the AFRALO region and to see alot of youth participation
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Wonder how many remote participants were outside of those that were streaming in from Senegal
  TT:Thks TJ
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Tijani
  Yaovi Atohoun 2:Thank you Alan
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Well done indeed AFRALO
  Evan Leibovitch:The great work done by AFRALO offers some good lessons that I hope are learned by the people planning the Academy
  Yaovi Atohoun 2:Thank you all for you support in Dakar
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Dev
  TT:Thanks for the brevity :-)
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:No comments
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I wish you well in your preparations
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I have a question with regards to the meeting time
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:does it rotate ?
  CLO:I trust the ALAC remembers  AP reps  run at UTC + 8 and 12 => 13 hrs  *summer time*
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I am on UTC+12
  CLO:that is a big spread of time in the  early morning night time hours
  CLO:yup
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:yes please doodle is good
  Evan Leibovitch:I need to go. I have no problem with the idea of staggering times so that a different set of people are inconvenienced by any specific time.
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:from the Pacific, it is terrible so i support rotation
  CLO:rinalia and Edmon are more like  +8 hrs
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:so we all get a fair go
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:haha
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:ignore it
  Alan Greenberg:The earth is round???  When did that happen?
  CLO:LOL
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:x: +7 < x < +13, x= time in UTC
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I thought Friedman said it was flat?
  Alan Greenberg:If re continue to address AIs at each meeting, the two meetings per month would still be as long!
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:rofl
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:it would problably be two 2hour meetings
  TT:I have to leave the call in 30 seconds :-)
  Yaovi Atohoun 2:two meetings per month could be a problem
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:+1 @Alan
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Maybe someone can write a paper
  TT:Offices to be locked nad must not remain in overnight :D
  CLO:yup
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:online progress reports
  Natalia Enciso:agree with @Alan
  CLO:we have had  people  removed  from buildings  with escorts  so do go as needed
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:and split the AIs among two ALAC meetings per month
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:and mandatory for ALAC members to read the reports
  TT:Regards to all!
  TT:Cheers
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Titi!
  CLO:take care TT
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:brainstorming the meeting time
  Evan Leibovitch:sorry. I really gotta go. another meeting
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:didn't cover the At-large Improvements
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Taskforce
  Evan Leibovitch:they're all asleep
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Mr Chair, I recognise that it is not easy but thank you for chairing the meeting
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Dev raised something
  CLO:no it can carry over till later
  Heidi Ullrich:Just saw your note, Cheryl.
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:No comments from me
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:tada!
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, everyone!
  CLO: bye all
  Natalia Enciso:thansk, bye to everyone!
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thank you Mr Chair and colleagues
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:thanks olivier and everyone.
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Have a great day everyone
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:gnite
  Sandra Hoferichter:By By!
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thank you Staff
  Yaovi Atohoun 2:merci a tous
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Bye!
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:bye bye
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:bye bye
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:Thanks everyone, bye all
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:breakfast now
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:great marathon session!
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:marathon is right
  CLO:LOL  now we get to start our  day  here in AP
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:lol yes CLO
  CLO:though Rinalia miught get a little rest
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Rinalia have a good rest
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I will catch up on my sleep later
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks to all for having remained until the end.
  CLO:bye all
  Cintra Sooknanan 2:Welcome Olivier... See you tomorrow!!!!!
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thank you :)
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and sorry if I take sometimes a little too long to explain things or let the debate continue & not cut it short. Debate and discussion is good.
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:omg I just found the icon for speaking slowly or fast
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:will use it next time
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:no you did a great job and it is not easy
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:have a good rest whatever time it is there
  Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:gosh now i can't find the log off button
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:you can never leave Sala
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh 2:lol

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