ALAC-REGISTRAR CALL CHAT: 05 APRIL 2011
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: neutrality.
Michele Neylon: Statton - linking to it? Publicising it and the neutrality aspect
Sandra Hoferichter: If the registrars like to support this initiative, your welcome!
CLO: that is an announce from LACRALO list that linked to the Doc we refered to ICANN recently prents draftinal requiremoducing from our orig
Michele Neylon: Sandra - support how? *cough*
Sandra Hoferichter: $$$$
Michele Neylon: CLO - how long ago?
CLO: tagena (ish)
CLO: Cartagena (ish)
Michele Neylon: CLO - I don't think it was circulated to us .. Mason might know
Michele Neylon: Let's be practical
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Michele Neylon: the site / content should be neutral
Michele Neylon: BUT
CLO: YES HAS to be MN
Michele Neylon: it needs to be hosted somewhere
CLO: Yup
Michele Neylon: so where?
Michele Neylon: and ICANN's record with regard to UX is crap
Michele Neylon: being blunt
Michele Neylon: it needs to be a separate site
Michele Neylon: endorsed by ALAC and registrars and registries and ICANN etc
CLO: We as ALAC could do that
Michele Neylon: CLO - separate site though
Michele Neylon: ie. not buried in some existing wiki thing
CLO: in the ICANN supplied site
CLO: NO as ICANN outreach stuff
Statton: Ok. If ICANN publishes it, that's fine, but I thought there was a criticism that people don't understand ICANN or go to the site
CLO: but developed WITH Industry
Michele Neylon: Statton - we're talking about who would "control" it
Michele Neylon: not that it would be part of the ICANN site
Statton: ICANN site already has materials that don't promote any one company - neutral
Michele Neylon: Statton - try finding the damn materials
CLO: Yes we do have an independant What is in a name service list who offer wh and for how much ing what
CLO: Yup MN THAT is the propblem We ALL have
Michele Neylon: Which is why I can only support it being a separate website and domain
Michele Neylon: ie. not a subdomain from icann.org
CLO: stand alone os fine the Lets talk Web is "seperate" but operated by auDA but as regulator/adminisor of the ccTLD we wanted an at arms length friendly space for people to useratt
Michele Neylon: I don't disagree
Michele Neylon: do you see me disagreeing? :)
CLO: has to be easy to find and use materials
Michele Neylon: +1
Michele Neylon: easy to use is key
Michele Neylon: simple
Michele Neylon: accessible
Michele Neylon: human friendly
CLO: No NM were in rampaant agreement *shhh* don't let any one know
Michele Neylon: oh yeah
Sandra Hoferichter: true
Alan Greenberg: definitely online.
Michele Neylon: web is the only way
Michele Neylon: print is of no use
Alan Greenberg: As I mentioned, both content and perhaps interactive
Michele Neylon: if someone googles for "what is a domain" then the "site" should be in the SERPS
Sandra Hoferichter: yes!
Michele Neylon: NO NO NO NO
CLO: ARGHHHH do NOT inbed
Alan Greenberg: I think there is great value in it being ICANN *and* being perceived as being ICANN.
Michele Neylon: published BY ICANN
Michele Neylon: is not the same as IN the bloody ICANN trainwreck of a website
CLO: Repository of trusted materials YES
CLO: that is top of a google search
Michele Neylon: the good / bad argument is a bit too early tbh
Michele Neylon: it's too subjective
Michele Neylon: plus it'll lead to more legal issues
Michele Neylon: I'd personally favour an international version of the Australian site
CLO: fun frieendly and accurat
Alan Greenberg: www.domainregistration.com.au
Michele Neylon: registrar
Michele Neylon: not neutral
Michele Neylon: there's a great big "accredited registrar" on the top of the page :)
Michele Neylon: oooo
CLO: they are "jusi" a registrar
Michele Neylon: the PPC cost for that would be huge
Michele Neylon: you're looking at about 20 dollars per click for some of those keywords
Statton: Is it really possible to create information that lacks all bias? Seems unrealistic
Michele Neylon: Statton - the Australian site is pretty good tbh
Sandra Hoferichter: actually the child protection community is already very good in producing material (online) we can copy some of this ideas
Michele Neylon: +1 for the use of the term "license" :)
Sandra Hoferichter: example:
Sandra Hoferichter: https://www.klicksafe.de/ueber-klicksafe/die-initiative/Project_information/index.html
Statton: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/searching-for-an-available-domain-name.html
Alan Greenberg: CLO - why uncomfortable with ICANN doing it?
CLO: ICANN can do it but if it is IN their site it will be buried
CLO: like the current resources are
Alan Greenberg: ICANN hosting it does NOT mean weintend someone to find it VIA the ICANN home page.
Michele Neylon: Alan - yes - but it needs to be clear
Statton: I like this concept of a separate ICANN - Consumer oriented website
CLO: so with auDA Let's Talk Net is a seperate site DNS etc., run and published by us (dry old administrator / regulator that we are
Michele Neylon: Bearing the brand - I agree
Michele Neylon: YES
Michele Neylon: ICANN should be the publisher
CLO: I agree with ICANN Brand trust YES
Sandra Hoferichter: Yes to ICANN as publisher
Statton: If we agree that ICANN should do this, then we need to shift our focus on how to pull in ICANN and get their thoughts
Michele Neylon: just as long as it's not a .ly domain :)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: LOL
Michele Neylon: or a .ie
Michele Neylon: *cough*
CLO: should be a .org
Michele Neylon: meh
Michele Neylon: it can't be a .tel
Michele Neylon: beyond that :)
Sandra Hoferichter: the website could have diferent levels, consumer, professionals, ICANN community...embeded in an ICANN Academy
Sandra Hoferichter: should be .edu
Alan Greenberg: CLO: Michele Jourdan
Michele Neylon: Sandra .edu is restricted to US educational establishments
CLO: yes thanks AG
Sandra Hoferichter: ooops
Michele Neylon: As a European registrar I could not support that
Sandra Hoferichter: .info
Michele Neylon: .info still has reputation issues on certain block lists
CLO: So let's write to her and see where they are up to
Michele Neylon: :)
CLO: we ca plannersn direct and reach out were the project
CLO: planners / mamagers as the WG
Sandra Hoferichter: then lets wait for the new gTLDs
Sandra Hoferichter: lost connection could you please call me again?
Michele Neylon: Registrars are close to consumers as well :)
Michele Neylon: they're our clients
Michele Neylon: neutral = good
Michele Neylon: I know what it is
Michele Neylon: I just wish I didn't
CLO: LOL
Michele Neylon: it's the brand name
Michele Neylon: I hate wikis
Statton: C-O-N-F-L-U-E-N-C-E ?
Michele Neylon: with a passion
Michele Neylon: oh dear - I'll have to let you play with our new sitebuilder :)
Michele Neylon: hmmmmz
Michele Neylon: can I monetise it though?
Michele Neylon: no fun if I can't
Michele Neylon: like seriously
Michele Neylon: :)
Michele Neylon: /me goes to check for Adsense plugins
Statton: Right. That is separate - Consumer rights
Michele Neylon: thanks everyone
Statton: My pleasure Thank you all.
Michele Neylon: /me wanders off
