Andrea Glandon: (17:50) Welcome to the ATLAS III Capacity Building Sub Group Call held on Wednesday, 13 February 2019 at 15:00 UTC.
  Andrea Glandon: (17:50) Wiki Agenda Page: https://community.icann.org/x/x4M2Bg
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (17:55) Hello all
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (17:56) Fighting  Ohh dear
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (17:58) the GNSO Course had been the next priority and subject to Legal review last we heard though not sure when that shall happen then
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (17:58) ahh but gremlins  OCL Gremlins
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (17:58) disconnected
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (17:59) Hi all
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:00) LOL
  Joanna Kulesza: (18:01) always good to hear you @Cheryl 
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:01) I can hear CLO loud and clear
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:01) without the phine I suspect @Alfredo
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:01) Muted now
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:01) LOL
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (18:05) please a call in spanish please
  Yesim Nazlar: (18:05) sure, will do Lilian
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (18:06) thanks yesim
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:06) no
  Filina Natalia: (18:07) Hello, everyone!
  Ali AlMeshal: (18:07) hi Natalia
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:07) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_file_d_1Xgjk3t5XpqtCVf0FQqZLcaq5002RJlZ7_view&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=PZdzSlCxixhhYVX_3nWXnhEoENnV3BFOavrt0rKiOM4&s=aMHasxKPZ8Q47WZMJ_cLZm7jj0f34ttLLFDfaJlGQo8&e=
  Filina Natalia: (18:07) @Ali, hi!
  Joanna Kulesza: (18:08) the link requires authorisation @OCL
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:09) i have requested access to view the doc
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:10) Ohh Dear
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:10) it normally works
  Joanna Kulesza: (18:10) how can technology _not_ be a user's friend?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:11) One does wonder @Joanna
  A-Eduardo Diaz: (18:11) link is here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presentation_d_1MvaIto3rO9TlfvjO2I6sqEnvMKQY7NFyHT6r-2D5wHYx0_edit&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=PZdzSlCxixhhYVX_3nWXnhEoENnV3BFOavrt0rKiOM4&s=cbZ2ZRcY6mPVs5h49wZOT-RamANm7v0iqLtPnIq9Y1E&e=
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:11) need permission @eduardo
  A-Eduardo Diaz: (18:12) More granular
  A-Eduardo Diaz: (18:14) THnak you OIlivier
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:22) @Dave: Eduardo's presentation is available from: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.icann.org_2StJxIH&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=PZdzSlCxixhhYVX_3nWXnhEoENnV3BFOavrt0rKiOM4&s=gX_dykMM9lAV6P89MeOk59-oz3jBBzw0d3o1CxSsFrk&e=
  Ali AlMeshal: (18:24) ok
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:24) indeed @Ali/OCL
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (18:25) AGREE WITH ALI, IT IS GOOD TO HAVE A MEASURE OF THE DURATION OF THE COURSES SO THAT THEY CAN BE DONE AND ARE ACCORDING TO THE ATLAS CALENDAR
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:26) Thanks @Olivier. I have the presentation now
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:26) yes
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:27) +GAC too indeed
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (18:28) MANY OF THESE COURSES WE HAVE ALREADY DONE WHAT WE HAVE BEEN FELLOWS
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (18:28) AGREE
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:28) @Lilian - if you have already done a course, then it will be recoreed in the ICANN learn system ad you do not need to take it again
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:28) That is expected @Lilian we can leverage that as complementary 
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (18:29) ok thanks Olivier
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:29) Agree @Alfredo
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (18:30) Agree Cheryl
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:30) I would move 130.X and 153.1 to REguired
  A-Eduardo Diaz: (18:31) @Olivier: What about 152?
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:31) IPC Constituency is just one of the GNSO Constituencies --- if we do IPC then we'll also need to do NCSG, ISPCP and BC and that is too much
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:32) so I would say 15 is suggested but no required
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:32) and duplicative
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:32) 152 suggested but not required
  A-Eduardo Diaz: (18:32) @Olivier:  I have not taken the INtroduction to GNSO but I imagine that they mentions these constituencies. 
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:33) Do Those who have taken suggested courses defenitely have an advantage on those who have taken only the required courses?
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:33) what do you mean by advantage?
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:33) In knowing more yes, when they take more courses they will know more
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:33) prefence to be selected
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:34) in the selection, only the Required courses will be used for assessment in the selection
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:34) ok
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:35) I'm OK if 500,1 moves to suggested though either way fine by me 
  A-Eduardo Diaz: (18:37) I will move cybersecurity to the required one, specially if it talks about the basic stuff
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:37) I admit I have not tried the cybersecurity one yet
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:37) I do not know how good it is
  A-Eduardo Diaz: (18:38) @Olivier: I admit it too!
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (18:38) the cybersecurity course is very good I recommend it
  Ali AlMeshal: (18:39) Then why we dont have a required set of courses as a pre selection and post selection ?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:41) Admin our way through it ;-)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:43) CROPP  now CROP is a differnt beast than it was in 2016
  Ali AlMeshal: (18:44) the webinars each length around 1 hour  
  Ali AlMeshal: (18:44) so we have here 12 hours 
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:44) We have to consider the time frame for the webinars as one of the requirements for the webinars is the availability of speakers
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:45) @Dave: ? The Webinars already exist
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:45) they are recordings
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (18:47) @Olivier. but i do recall that when we tried to organise the webinar on GDPR, it took us a lot of time as the speakers were not available
  Ali AlMeshal: (18:49) where are 2018?
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:51) Good point @Ali. None of the 2018 Webinars are on line. 
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:51) Maybe we should look at these as well and make a selection from them
  Filina Natalia: (18:52) Lesson from 2016 about Trends.... A little bit not relevand information?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:53) I thought OCL (and I) had mentioned the CROPP one matter
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:53) Look at the 2018 Capacity Building Webinar list here: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+Working+Group
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:55) there may be a few switch out opportunities  YES OCL
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:56) They should be @Joanna YES
  A-Eduardo Diaz: (18:56) @Olivier: I wen tto chek the actual webinar page and the recordings are there. It is a metter to add the links in the table.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:56) not sure why they are not actually :-(
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:58) @Eduardo -- thanks for checking. Update needed obviously. :-)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (18:58) Yes all will need the basic edits done and assessments added
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (18:59) Perhaps an AI on that -- staff to update Capacity Building page with AC links to Webinars
  Joanna Kulesza: (18:59) @Ali 2015 that is?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (19:01) Good plan !
  Filina Natalia: (19:01) Let me ask you, we are (as CB WG) may require the updates or creation, or we may to be initializators of the new CB courses or lessons? The question for the present and future. Can we invite to this work for example our MOU partners, if they already have that lack on our Learning zone?
  Ali AlMeshal: (19:01) yes
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (19:01) 27 Feb 2019
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (19:01) let me check
  A-Eduardo Diaz: (19:01) A doodle maybe?
  Ali AlMeshal: (19:02) yes doodle
  Joanna Kulesza: (19:02) and I have been dropped off the dial out again
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (19:02) i think we do a doodle poll
  Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (19:02) Doodle
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (19:02) doodel is better
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (19:02) NP ALfredo I LOVE calls at 0200
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (19:03) doodle
  Ali AlMeshal: (19:03) thnaks all
  Dave Kissoondoyal: (19:03) ok thanks a lot and bye to all
  A-Eduardo Diaz: (19:03) Gracias Alfredo
  Lilian Ivette De Luque: (19:03) great meeting bye
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (19:03) Bye for now  Good progress

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