08:44:43 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Welcome to APRALO Policy Forum Call taking place on Wednesday, 31 January 2024 at 06:00 UTC.
08:44:58 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/e4C5EQ
09:04:12 From Nabeel Yasin - www.nabeelyasin.net to Everyone:
Hello everyone
09:04:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
g'day from AUS
09:04:45 From Priyatosh Jana to Everyone:
greetings from India
09:05:28 From Mohammad Kawsar Uddin to Everyone:
Hello Everyone
09:05:29 From Ashrafur Rahman Piaus to Everyone:
Good Day!
09:06:47 From Ashirwad’s iPhone to Everyone:
I was there last week
09:07:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
NP at all @Justine Chew
09:07:42 From Ashrafur Rahman Piaus to Everyone:
I attended the last call.
09:07:46 From Holly Raiche to Everyone:
That’s fine Justine - a review of the issues always helps
09:09:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
NOT for Holly and I it's 0100 I am sending my usual apologies
09:09:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
But I have lived and breathed this topic so I get a pass...
09:09:54 From Holly Raiche to Everyone:
Thanks Cheryl - I also review the CPWG call at a more reasonable time
09:14:47 From Dr Houda CHIHI ICANN FELLOW 78 to Everyone:
Hello
09:19:15 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
It takes time to do well especially in an effective and balanced Multistakeholder model, and SubPro DID indeed do just that.
09:25:07 From Vipul Gautam to Everyone:
Can you please give the examples
09:25:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
.bank; .pharmacy. doctor
09:26:28 From Vipul Gautam to Everyone:
Got them, thank you
09:27:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
it is not an exhaustive but an indicative list of examples
09:27:40 From Vipul Gautam to Everyone:
Reacted to "it is not an exhaust..." with
09:43:55 From Vipul Gautam to Everyone:
Is RA - Registry Agreements?
09:44:11 From Holly Raiche to Everyone:
Happy to discuss, but the real issue is how a contract between two parties - ICANN and Rose - but what you are saying is that one of those parties - ICANN - does not want to be responsible for enforcement. The issue in contract law is the difficulty with non-parties to a contract having standing to use the contract to enforce the contract terms
09:44:11 From Shah Rahman to Everyone:
Replying to "Is RA - Registry Agr..."
yes
09:44:51 From Ashrafur Rahman Piaus to Everyone:
Exactly You are @Justine Chew
09:45:01 From Holly Raiche to Everyone:
(the contract is NOT with ROSE - autocorrect did that. The parties are ICANN and the Registry Operator
09:46:15 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
It's a good part of the framework
09:50:29 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Guilty as charged
09:50:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
we are here to help
09:51:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
often malicious and frequently frivolous
09:51:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
So it needs to be tested not just reacted to with a STOP option
09:52:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Actual 8OBJECTIONs* totally different
09:52:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
*OBJECTIONS*
09:53:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
and t again can be deliberately obstructive and not a general GAC view
09:54:29 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Objections are totally different in pricess and weight
09:54:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
process not pricess
09:56:18 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
ICANN has a bylaw post 2016 that states it has tight limits on any matter of Content
09:56:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
So IN the contract = Enforcable
09:57:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
unagreed language not in Contract - road block for the application
10:01:54 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Has to be 3rd Party essessment
10:02:35 From Shah Rahman to Everyone:
and 3rd party auditor icann permitted, right
10:02:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Many moving parts in all this but careful build will be as I believe an 'elegant solution'
10:03:41 From Holly Raiche to Everyone:
@ Shah. I think the third party as arbiter makes the judgment that ICANN - as party to the contract, can enforce
10:05:03 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
belts and braces on this is my view and YES essential for Community gTLD
10:06:09 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
blanket is easier and actually IMO farer
10:07:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
it has to be sticky
10:08:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
change with a predictable and known process
10:12:11 From Kapil Goyal to Everyone:
( Question) I would like ask does ICANN have policy framework to deal with Digital Dystopia by considering growing ICT deployment...thanks ...Kapil
10:13:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Replying to "( Question) I would ..."
Kapil my understanding of 'Digital dystopia' would in the main be well out of any ICANN Mandate
10:14:42 From Athena Foo - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Reacted to "Kapil my understand..." with
10:15:24 From Holly Raiche to Everyone:
Thanks Justine
10:15:34 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Reacted to "Thanks Justine" with
10:15:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Reacted to "Thanks Justine" with
10:15:45 From Shah Rahman to Everyone:
yes
10:15:52 From Mabda Fajrilla to Everyone:
thanks Justine, very clear so far
10:16:06 From Nabeel Yasin - www.nabeelyasin.net to Everyone:
Thanks very much Justine
10:16:06 From Kapil Goyal to Everyone:
Well today i conducted ICANN LEARN Workshop on Cyber security...Technical group..my students asked about Digital dystopian ecosystem/ any economic, social or political aspects ....will be grateful if anyone could elaborate...thanks
10:17:14 From Ashrafur Rahman Piaus to Everyone:
Thanks Justine for explaining.
10:17:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
it is an excellent Internet Governance and obviously Cyber Sec matter Kapil but not core to ICANN which is focussed on the identifiers
10:18:05 From Shah Rahman to Everyone:
Replying to "Well today i conduct..."
Kapil todays discussion is mostly on PIC and RVC , not that much relavent what youre asking but maybe another call we can discuss
10:18:17 From NAZMUL HASAN MAJUMDER to Everyone:
Thanks
10:18:27 From Kong’s iPhone (2) to Everyone:
Thanks. Have a good day
10:18:51 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Today’s CPWG Call: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=297369701
10:19:06 From Vipul Gautam to Everyone:
Thank You!
10:19:11 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
This more intense interaction on a topic has been well worthwhile THx
10:19:15 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
Thanks
10:19:17 From Udeep Baral to Everyone:
Thank you
10:19:19 From Juliana Harsianti to Everyone:
Thank you
10:19:20 From Mabda Fajrilla to Everyone:
Thank you everyone
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