07:44:00 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org To Everyone:
    Welcome to APRALO ROP Review WG Call taking place on Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 05:00 UTC.
07:44:10 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org To Everyone:
    Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/mYMYEQ
08:02:10 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    4th I can
08:02:36 From Satish Babu (Member, ALAC) To Everyone:
    Apologies, the DotAsia meeting was running late (Maureen is still there)...
08:03:19 From Satish Babu (Member, ALAC) To Everyone:
    Congratulations Cheryl!
08:03:40 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    these things happen Satish
08:04:23 From Priyatosh Jana To Everyone:
    Good morning
08:05:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    we expect Maureen once her other meeting concludes...
08:05:33 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    I'm pretty much ready for the goodnight part of the day
08:06:20 From Cherie Lagakali To Everyone:
    Just sunset here. Hi everyone
08:07:53 From Cherie Lagakali To Everyone:
    Sorry coming into the discussions now other than some minor grammar much of the document looks good to me. It is easy to read and understand
08:08:18 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Replying to "Sorry coming into th..."
    
    That is good to hear  we need fresh eyes at this stage
08:12:02 From Justine Chew To Everyone:
    We have "Member in Good Standing" now.
08:12:19 From Satish Babu To Everyone:
    Also, some of these observers would have the potential to become members in future...
08:14:10 From Satish Babu To Everyone:
    Either way sounds good to me...
08:14:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Can be an "Announce"list for Members only  of course
08:15:04 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    Reacted to "Can be an "Announce"..." with 
08:15:38 From Cherie Lagakali To Everyone:
    General list?
08:15:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    AI OK for me Justine but it won't be happening real soon (rather under the weather still)
08:16:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    It needs to cover other entities, partner orgs etc,. as well
08:16:47 From Cherie Lagakali To Everyone:
    I like the notice or disclaimer differentiating
08:17:19 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    ' Interested Parties'   approach
08:17:51 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    no
08:20:37 From Gopal Tadepalli To Everyone:
    Thank you Yesim Saglam for the call - in. I am sorry, my mail servers are still in the process of becoming normal after the cyclone. I am joining from the ICANN Confluence Wiki directly. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
08:21:22 From Gopal Tadepalli To Everyone:
    As observed earlier, it is the time taken to process the proxy form and three times that to be budgeted for the ICANN Staff to process.
08:21:56 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org To Everyone:
    Welcome Gopal
08:22:23 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    If we have a definition , we follow that definition
08:22:33 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Reacted to "If we have a definit..." with 
08:23:31 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    We have a definition. So lets follow that
08:23:42 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Our current definition seems solid for this purpose in my view
08:23:53 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    Reacted to "Our current definiti..." with 
08:29:47 From Gopal Tadepalli To Everyone:
    In virtually every professional organization I have been with, it is a common tussle to compare X who has happened with the organization in various positions and Y who has been not nurtured like that from within the organization but can happen in a comparable manner. That is up to the leadership within both X and Y. It is a definition and time to process. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
08:30:21 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Really it's a can be used if dire circumstance occurs
08:30:21 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    RoP  should be high level and not too binding
08:30:29 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Reacted to "RoP  should be high ..." with 
08:30:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Yes far more areiculate than I was  Thanks  @Justine Chew
08:31:03 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    articulate
08:32:31 From Gopal Tadepalli To Everyone:
    Nice that we can go ahead.
08:33:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Then Adj06 can always be homework in the next week +
08:35:17 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Yes slim down this 27.5 and use an ADJ
08:35:53 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    Makes sense
08:36:52 From Satish Babu To Everyone:
    It's good to be consistent
08:38:08 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    No
08:41:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Agree removal criteria and processes  should be for *all* appointments
08:42:28 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    Replying to "Agree removal criter..."
    
    Agree
08:43:33 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Noting that this is for appointments not sime frm of 'membership' inclusion in lists
08:43:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    lists can always be subscribed to and confirmed at various points in time
08:44:26 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Yes check -Ins
08:45:20 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    yes
08:45:50 From Gopal Tadepalli To Everyone:
    The ideology of "removal" in voluntary organizations has often been very tricky. Just an individual in the "technology space" may be holding the necessary key. I am not keen on "removal" as a crucial concern. It is more to seek contribution. However, it is good to keep this deterrent in the APRALO RoP. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
08:46:59 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    or no show
08:47:24 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    let me check the para
08:48:40 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    Agree Cheryl
08:50:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    33.1.2  the public harm is done
08:52:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    For me just having 33.1.2  going to the LT (in confidence)  as opposed to a PUBLIC distribution List
08:54:19 From Gopal Tadepalli To Everyone:
    In a lighter vein, none can be proven completely sane. As a matter of fact, at times it may be hazardous to do so, That is life. I like the term "Compassion" used by Satish within the ambit of a peer group. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
08:54:50 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    Agree
08:55:47 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    ok. got your point Cheryl
08:57:01 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    yes
08:57:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    From my POV  YES please
08:57:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    This is one of my long standing and historical bug bears
08:58:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Time Check
08:58:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Oh goodie  *SIGH*
08:59:44 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    unicorns are hard to find
09:00:23 From Gopal Tadepalli To Everyone:
    I will catch up later. I have to rush elsewhere now. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, Chennai, INDIA
09:00:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Replying to "I will catch up late..."
    
    Bye Gopal
09:03:39 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    Yes Generic+Specific for the roles
09:04:55 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Historically it was always Chair then following
09:06:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    yes some shuffling around will help
09:08:10 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    G or sp
09:08:11 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    SoIs (Updated at all times) are required for all anyway
09:09:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Always happy to be ruthless @Amrita Choudhury
09:10:43 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    anyone with link can comment
09:11:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Great Job Team!
09:12:09 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    +1 Deadline
09:12:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    remember all comments ON these Docs get pushed to the editors for attention :-)
09:13:00 From Satish Babu To Everyone:
    Happy Holidays everyone!!
09:14:30 From Amrita Choudhury To Everyone:
    ok
09:15:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr To Everyone:
    Seasons Greetings to you all  if you travel  do so safely...  Bye for now then
09:16:25 From Cherie Lagakali To Everyone:
    Thanks Justine. Merry Christmas everyone. Happy holidays
09:16:55 From Cherie Lagakali To Everyone:
    I didn't this morning but I think I have access now
09:17:29 From Cherie Lagakali To Everyone:
    Bye

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