Sub-group Members:  Avri Doria, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Dalila Rahmouni, Fiona Asonga, Julie Hammer, Lito Ibarra, Marie-Noemie Marques, Rafik Dammak, Renata Aquino Ribeiro, Sebastien Bachollet

Observers/Guests:  Taylor R.W. Bentley

StaffBernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Elizabeth Andrews, Meghan Healy, Mike Brennan, Sabrina Mosquera

Apologies:  /

Interpretation Stats:

  • FR = 1
  • ES = 1

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  1. Roll Call
  2. Review of Staff Summary of Comments
  3. AOB

Raw Captioning Notes

Disclaimer: This rough edit transcript, which may contain missing, misspelled or paraphrased words, is only provided for your immediate review and is not certified as verbatim and is not to be cited in any way. 


  • Recommendation 1 - draft agreement that the only change required is to add the word “should”
  • Recommendation 2 – draft agreement there should be no changes.

Action Items:

  • (none)


  • Sub-group should read the comments on recommendation 3 and up for the next meeting.

Next Meetings:

  • Thursday 1 February 2018 13:00 UTC
  • Thursday 8 February 2018 13:00 UTC
  • Thursday 15 February 2018 13:00 UTC

Documents Presented:

Chat Transcript:

 Brenda Brewer: (1/25/2018 06:26) Good day and welcome to Diversity Subgroup Meeting #32 on 25 January 2018 @ 13:00 UTC!

  Brenda Brewer: (06:26) When not speaking, please mute your phone by pressing *6 (star 6). To unmute, *7. This call is recorded.

  Brenda Brewer: (06:27) Reminder to all, for captioning and transcription, please  state your name before speaking and speak slowly.  Thank you!

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (06:54) HELLO ALL

  FIONA ASONGA: (06:58) Hallo Everyone

  Rafik: (07:00) hi everyone

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:01) how

  Lito Ibarra: (07:01) Hi everyone

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:01) @CLO - WHEN?

  Rafik: (07:02) tempted to say "what" :)?

  Brenda Brewer: (07:03) Roll call is good per adobe room attendees.  Thank you!

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:03) Sebastien is driving and on phone only

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:04) from what we have been told

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:05) Please mute if not speaking

  Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (07:09) Hi sorry I am still sorting my audio

  Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (07:12) ay que bueno, finally on the spanish phone bridge :)

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:14) good point Julia

  Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (07:17) open ended fields on data collection when it is important

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:18) indeed @Fiona

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:18) Let us remember the privacy concerns noted by ICANN related to this

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:19) yes @Bernie

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:20) fair point

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:21) hand

  Brenda Brewer: (07:21) Reminder...please speak state your name before speaking and speak slowly for the interpreters.  Thank you!

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:22) I see you moving it here

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:23) thank you

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:23) we are awaiting for the official translation and will make it available as soon as we get it

  Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (07:26) this gov of india observation there is a simple solution: note countries and cities. That way one can know the population number

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:36) time check - 25 minutes left in call

  Julie Hammer (SSAC): (07:37) Agree with Cheryl, we need to progress if we are to make our deadlines.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:38) yes focus on where  *if* any edits to our proposed text is desirable when suggested

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:39) no scroll

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:40) next pages please

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:43) can we have scroll control if the slides are not synchronised for us?  or is it just my AC stuck with wrong page

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:43) @CLO showing the right slide here

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:43) rec 1 INTA 1.07

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:44) hmm must be my bandwidth....  just as well I have a good recall of the doc

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:44) time check - 15 minutes left in call

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:47) but with SHOULD

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:48) EXCELLENT

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:48) no change required beyond add in of 'should'

  Rafik: (07:48) yes

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:48) Sorry Fiona rec 2 is 2.01, 2.02

  Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (07:50) i don't see on the screen the comment, where is it?

  Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (07:50) 2.02?

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:50) 2.02 yes

  Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (07:50) ah ok found it

  avri doria: (07:54) so groups do not even need to consider various diversity aspects.  cold they ignroe them all?

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:54) ok will extend to 15 after the hour

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:55) ok to extend after all Julie and I are kept awake already at this time of night ( now on a National Public Holiday)

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:56) @CLO - you are a trooper

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (07:56) 2.05 is the same as previous on e

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:57) I take one vacation time away with friends per year, ICANN calls have always featured as part of my Australia Day,  so perhaps more certifiable than trooper

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:58) Yes treat the same

  avri doria: (07:58) doees address mean stricly adhere to or does it mean consider ?

  avri doria: (07:58) and be able to state why not met?

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:59) I would say address is the latter

  Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (08:00) That is why self-identification is important, inc. for the race and ethnicity aspects. It is not up to ICANN to make ppl tick boxes but if they want to advance specific inclusion initiatives they should be able to.

  Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (08:01) (general comment, I understand the main elements already are covered and there is a flexibility on the general measurements)

  Julie Hammer (SSAC): (08:01) No change

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:01) no change needed

  Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (08:02) thanks for the call

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (08:02) bye 👋 for now then

  Rafik: (08:02) thanks all

  Lito Ibarra: (08:02) Thanks. Bye

  Dalila RAHMOUNI- GAC FRANCE: (08:03) thank you

  FIONA ASONGA: (08:03) Bye everyone

  Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (08:03) bye all

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