Yesim Nazlar:Welcome to the At-Large Review Recommendations Feasibility Assessment & Implementation Plan Webinar on Wednesday, 16 August 2017 at 16:00 UTC
Louis Houle:Hi, I'll join on the French channel in a moment
Yesim Nazlar:Hi Louis, thanks!
Maureen Hilyard:Hi everyone. Hi Louis, nice to see you
Glenn McKnight:Hi
Ali AlMeshal:hello all
Glenn McKnight:@louis can you ask Destiny to contact us since he is a fellow for ICANN 60
Ricardo Holmquist:good day everyone - buenos dias a todos
Louis Houle:OK
Holly Raiche:Greetings all
Aida Noblia:Hi all
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, All!
Glenn McKnight:muted
Susannah Gray (SF Bay ISOC Chapter):Good Morning from California!
Leon Sanchez:Hello everyone
Rabie BOUYAHIAOUI:Hello Everyone
Matthias Hudobnik:hey folks, can you hear anything?
Leon Sanchez:I guess it hasn't started?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone
Matthias Hudobnik:aaa thx :-)
Fatimata:Hello everyone
Alan Greenberg:Sorry, cannot be heard. Will redial
Fatimata:Yes, we can hear you
judith hellerstein:HI All
judith hellerstein:Glad I did not miss anything
Glenn McKnight:yes
Glenn McKnight:didn't hear you
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Yes, can hear you now ALan
Glenn McKnight:clean the .....
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):not heard
Narine Khachatryan:Greetings, everyone!
Ahmad Alsadeh:Hi All
Sarah Kiden:Hi everyone
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):next slide
Satish Babu:I'm hearing Espanol...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):we have crossed lines
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:there a mix of audio from the interpreters
Alan Greenberg:Hopefully we will have a pretty complete version in WORD/PDF format by Friday so people can look at it over the weekend.
Ricardo Holmquist:and it goes again
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):not fixed
Satish Babu:It's back... :-(
judith hellerstein:we still have crossed lines
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):ok now
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:hmm...seems to be ok now
Maritza Aguero:Audio in bridge is not working...
Satish Babu:Ok now...
judith hellerstein:@maritza since you are the only one in the spanish channel i guess it is OK to just join the English channel
Ariel Liang:You may access the google doc here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1Njfm2rRfmgAGAamhDEv1f-5FOIqIh0-2DdZrnDCA9U-5FEHlw_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=nQDdJEz2J30vjyI6UiHctXLqACRxNbPqYtmgj4uY0AY&s=RdgdfEKqmJ5qANM9DcchDMnav55a3TgwWgkhwsNqn84&e= (view only)
Satish Babu:Can hear you well
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes
Fatimata:yes
Maureen Hilyard:Yes we can hear you Olivier
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:hear you olivier
Aida Noblia:yes
Alberto Soto:yes
Carlton SAMUELS:Hiya all
Fatimata:Lol!
Satish Babu:LOL
Heidi Ullrich:Apologies, everyone can hear Olivier except the ES interpretors who are having a challenging time.
Alan Greenberg:Are we taking comments Rec by Rec or at end?
judith hellerstein:Yes @maritza says there is a problem with the audio on the spanish channel
Ariel Liang:EMM 1 is on page 37/58 on the document
Ricardo Holmquist:a lot of noise and some echo in Olivier line
Ariel Liang:on the google doc you can click the recommendation sub heading on the left to jump quickly to the rec that you want to read
Sebastien (ALAC):Who will be able to give feedback? And when? Thanks
Holly Raiche:@ Sebastien - comments have been sought from the time the documents were up - at the end of May through until mid August
Heidi Ullrich:@All, apologies for the noise. It is live from Olivier's line...
Leon Sanchez:Can the person in the traffic jam mute his/her mic?
Leon Sanchez:oh
Leon Sanchez:forget what I said :P
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:;-)
Alan Greenberg:@Leon, cannot. It is Olivier
Leon Sanchez:Yep
Sebastien (ALAC):@Holly - then we are just here to hear?
judith hellerstein:@leon was making a joke. I thought it was funny
Sebastien (ALAC):`@Alan I have the same question. Alan Greenberg: Are we taking comments Rec by Rec or at end?
Glenn McKnight:correct
Alan Greenberg:20 minutes for feedback, but largely intended to be from RALOs
Glenn McKnight:i thought we would comment per section
Holly Raiche:@ Sebastian - the agenda does include discussion time
Glenn McKnight:As stated the RALO Leader and ALAC position is so unreaslistic
Glenn McKnight:double the duty and double the fun I suppose
Gabdibé GAB-HINGONNE:Bonjour tout le monde.
Glenn McKnight:I expressed my concerns on the feedback from many of the staff and ATLARGE community which felt that the review would incorporate their criticial feedback. If we reject their contribution, do we have any mechanism to continue and dialogue with those individuals so don't get turned off
judith hellerstein:I agree with you glenn
Satish Babu:@OCL, trying to get this straight: The recs of particular relevance to RALOs are 2, 3, 5, 11, 12, 13, and 16, and RALOs and RALO members should focus on these...right? (this is to inform ALSes)
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Saish -- these are the number which I saw appeared to impact ALSes and RALOs the most. In most of them, the RALOs & ALSes are explicitly mentioned in these recommendations
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):nothing new in Ind Members it came out 1st Review
Glenn McKnight:@Tijani we have 17 Unafffilated members of NARALO and most are inactive
Satish Babu:Thanks @OCL
Glenn McKnight:We are reaching out to them and having orientation sessions
Glenn McKnight:Another important outreach to the members in an ALS other than the appointed ALS member to the RALO
Carlton SAMUELS:@Alan: When it comes to active participation IN ICANN MATTERS, the distinction between ALS and individuals is a distinction WITHOUT a difference. People become active. I'm not so certain the label we place on them is relevant if it is active participation we want to achieve.
Sebastien (ALAC):I am speaking
judith hellerstein:We cannot hear you
Sebastien (ALAC):but I will try to change something
Glenn McKnight:cant hear him
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):please comment on any of the Recs
Sebastien (ALAC):I am in English
Holly Raiche:@ Carlton - agree - but it is a distinction made by the ITEMS report made that we have to respond to
Sebastien (ALAC):Go with somebody else
Ahmad Alsadeh:we cannot hear
Fatimata:no we can't
Satish Babu:Can't hear...
Satish Babu:Yes
Glenn McKnight:yes
Glenn McKnight:who is speaking
Glenn McKnight:k
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes that is accounted for Alberto
Fatimata:Sebastien
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:+1 @Glenn
Carlton SAMUELS:@Glenn: The original idea for the ALS is for an entity leading outreach to individuals and to bring them to the fold. In other words they were supposed to be existing organisations working in certain areas of endeavour. Now that we have single purpose ALSs we tend to conflate the individual requirement for participation with the ALSs acceptance of its principal role.; orchestrate for individuals to participate.
Holly Raiche:@ Sebastien - it is an issue raised by the ITEMS report that we need to respond to - their observation was on the difficulty of individuals participating in ALAC
Holly Raiche:@ Carlton - thanks - Alan is giving our response
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Alan I can answer Sebs questions
Carlton SAMUELS:@Alan: +1 that IS the problem. How we get individuals in ALSs to ramp up participation. It isnt the ALS, its individuals connected to the ALSs.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed Carlton
Sebastien (ALAC):Inimplementation qsteps
Sebastien (ALAC):Staff to identify areas of the website needing improvement to be reviewed by At-large Leadership prior to implementation.
Holly Raiche:@ Carlton - the iITEMS report saw an issue as allowing individual participation without having to join an ALS -
Fatimata:+1 @ Dev regarding the MOU with the RIR
Tijani BEN JEMAA:@Dev +1
Holly Raiche:@ Dev - that was in the text and was mentioned - we can ensure it is mentioned - and thanks for the reference on SLACK
Carlton SAMUELS:@ALL: I say again. ITEMS report still does not tell me how you get more names of LIVE persons - that is to say thinking sensate individuals, allied to ALS or not - actively participating. Active Participation in this context means: participating in chartered WGs, studying reports and recommendations and responding, attending briefings etc. etc.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Re: Rec10 re: messaging - the TTF has done a report at ICANN58 Copenhagen re: At-Large using Slack - see the TTF slides for ICANN58 at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__goo.gl_iYN2Jo&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=nQDdJEz2J30vjyI6UiHctXLqACRxNbPqYtmgj4uY0AY&s=nZngq4pUc7Lt0eobCS5nc8H2g9mrJnRErHFUhJ5rPOU&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):that was clear in the RALO response to the PC of course Dev does it really need to be in such details in this document
Holly Raiche:@ Carlton - I think we are saying that politely
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Re: Rec12 RALOs should continue to put a high priority on the organisation of events no mention that RALOs have MOUs with regional RIRs - from the google doc link I'm not seeing the referernce to MOU with RIRs in Rec12
Gabriel:QUEL SERA LE MODÈLE D'ADHÉSION DE MEMBRES INDIVIDUELS ?
Tijani BEN JEMAA:@Gabriel, ca dépend des RALO
Tijani BEN JEMAA:il y a différente manières d'un RALO à un autre
Fatimata:I think Olivier is providing answers to Carlton
Carlton SAMUELS:@Holly: My dear Holly, you know I love you. But in my opinion, that message musat be direct, live and in colour. Politesse not necessary here.
Holly Raiche:@ Gabriel - we have said that each RALO can develop their model of individual membership -
Holly Raiche:@ Carlton - agree
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Cheryl - I think it should be repeated in Rec12 since the review explicitly calls out At-Large for not being engaged with local I*star groups
Gabriel:Thanks for answers
Holly Raiche:@ Carlton - also remember, we did talk to ITEMS - now it is up to us to say the same things to the Board
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):ok to cross reference, but this is a feasibility Assessment doc
Justine Chew:+1 Sebastien
Gabriel:@Holly and @Tidjani
Glenn McKnight:@ olivier that is my point earlier
Glenn McKnight:I expressed this on our Leadership call yesterday as well. We need to open to listening to their views
Glenn McKnight:Alan you are missing the point. We are speaking about blow back
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and OCL let's remember a detailed implementation plan is yet to follow in next steps
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:+1 Cheryl
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:yes there will indeed be a detailed implementation plan
Krishna Seeburn:+
Krishna Seeburn:+1 alan...and we need somthing rather than nothing
Leon Sanchez:It has been indeed
Leon Sanchez:thanks
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thanks everyone greatly appreciated... bye for now ð
Carlton SAMUELS:Thanks all, bye all
Fatimata:Thank you and good bye
Ali AlMeshal:bye all
Sarah Kiden:Thanks everyone
Satish Babu:Thanks to all!
Gabriel:Thanks
Ariel Liang:thanks all
Maritza Aguero:Thanks all!
Alberto Soto 2:thanks!!!! bye!!
Aida Noblia:Thank you all .Bye\
Krishna Seeburn:gye all
Gordon Chillcott:Thanks, all and bye for now.
Maureen Hilyard:GReat meeting.. thanks all bye. Take care Alberto
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:take care a;;
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:all
Harold Arcos:thanks all
Gabdibé GAB-HINGONNE:Merci et au revoir
