Yesim Nazlar: (3/15/2017 10:55) Hello, my name is Yeşim Nazlar and I will be monitoring this chat room. In this role, I am the voice for the remote participants, ensuring that they are heard equally with those who are “in-room” participants. When submitting a question that you want me to read out loud on the mic, please provide your name and affiliation if you have one, start your sentence with <QUESTION> and end it with <QUESTION>. When submitting a comment that you want me to read out loud of the mic, once again provide your name and affiliation if you have one then start your sentence with a <COMMENT> and end it with <COMMENT>. Text outside these quotes will be considered as part of “chat” and will not be read out loud on the mic. Any questions or comments provided outside of the session time will not be read aloud. Please note that audio is may be available in French and Spanish. All chat sessions are being archived and follow the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.icann.org_en_news_in-2Dfocus_accountability_expect&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=wVnEF1MR2a4vYVhrIoooZ60AW4_YOoDjUT126dFDXaM&e=
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (10:56) Hello everyone
Stuart Clark: (10:57) Morning
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (10:57) Good morning from Toronto, great audio Dev
Gordon Chillcott: (10:57) Hi, all. Also from Toronto
Alfredo Calderon: (10:58) Hello to all, from San Juan, Puerto Tico.
Alfredo Calderon: (10:58) ooppps! Puerto Rico
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (10:59) Hi Gordon, In the immortal words of Louise Armstrong.."Baby its cold out there"
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (10:59) Louis that is
Gordon Chillcott: (10:59) Oh, definitely.
Glenn McKnight: (11:01) i am back
Glenn McKnight: (11:01) Looked or the ITEMS team to join the audience
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (11:02) They and anyone else are welcome
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (11:06) Having participated remotely over the years, I must admit that the Adobe system has improved a great deal of late.
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (11:07) My sense is that the technology is less of an issue, however, training participants in the use of the tech is important
Josh Baulch: (11:11) @Murray - I agree 100% ^^^ there are some things we can improve, but this is a big issue as well.
Sarah Kiden: (11:12) Totally agree with Murray. We have a much better experience now
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:14) Pictures of ICANN 58
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (11:14) @ Judith and Dev, are there plans to "build capacity" or train participants in the tools, like AC?
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (11:16) Also I agree with the mobile issues on AC, ICANN as a big user od this tech may have some sway in asking Adobe to provide better mobile device support?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (11:19) @murray, there are plans to have an onboarding/learning document for the Outreach and Engagement set of documents https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BCommunity-2BOnboarding&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=CxODkHNoA0zYRjzUSeHSWAqi5gG6wDJ_9byMdF5vfXA&e=
Lance hinds: (11:20) wasn't this attempted already?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (11:20) The Technology Issues Page (and Adobe Connect Issues page ) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BTechnology-2BIssues&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=k-n6VTwdtsafT27X03Akva2H0w2JkXvSnhYVT6M1u9g&e=
Ariel Liang: (11:20) thanks Dev (much faster than me :))
Lance hinds: (11:21) I.e Eval and testing
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (11:21) @Dev Thanks..perhaps some experimentation with the like of facebook LIVE, YouTube LIVE or other Livestream services would allow outreach to a larger millenial Audience, who should be aware ICANN exists
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:22) Conference comparisons
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (11:22) I have found that the product Zoom ( an ex Cisco team startup) is pretty good at managing bandwiith for people with different bandwidth connection issues..
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:24) The link i provided is the testing screen
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:25) it provides the screening protocal to evaluate the various tools. Yes ZOOM has become a favourite and in the iEEE world they still use WEBEX
Alfredo Calderon: (11:25) Another one to consider could be https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.blackboard.com_business_index.aspx&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=evkG5d4Pz1yAOCB4eGLKBt9gJg6dx1j8zteRdryNxZg&e=
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:25) Please add your suggestions to the link i provided above
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (11:26) @Seun, Feel free to Connect with me to test, I am well aware of the bandwidth issues in your part of the world
Alfredo Calderon: (11:27) @Glenn, done.
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:29) I added a slideshow on comparing different products but things have changed alot
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (11:29) @murray - its also an issue when we want to share on social media an At-Large recording is available - most social media users are on mobile and the work being done by At-Large can't be seen or shared
Gisella Gruber: (11:31) Dev will hear English in AC
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (11:31) Yes, re: interpretation
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:31) Please look at the link i provided that has a range of product comparisons
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (11:33) @Glenn, I recall https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__zoom.us_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=GFtDXnixyGjjsS8vS61GQHgqvVTPvpe_a2Hi4xoi3Qk&e= worked well for various ISOC meetings
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:33) it does
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:33) We didn't have it on the list nor Blackbaud
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:33) Need to add
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (11:34) @Glenn ..added
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:35) I added ZOOM and Blackbaud in the columns
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:35) Can you folks add your evaluations
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:35) note the file is wide
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:36) please sign in and add your observations
Alfredo Calderon: (11:36) @Glenn, its' spelled Blackboard
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:36) correct will correct
Murray McKercher NARALO 2: (11:37) I agrtee with Satish's comments
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (11:44) At-Large Policy Page : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__atlarge.icann.org_policy-2Dsummary&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=6UNJw2O0OeElpnveHRoEVQbZULkKS1Tsiwirz75cw-g&e=
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (11:45) Board Tracking of advice received : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__features.icann.org_board-2Dadvice&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=vlaYS4uAxwUgfBQAM3HfDgfLFTAAtl_rOfPrqRBSpq4&e=
Alfredo Calderon: (11:47) Hum! "tagging", "labels"
Ariel Liang: (11:48) FYi - since we skipped some slides and run short of time, you may download the view the slides of this session here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_MpDDAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=kTFvm14f9kqzX811ASb9sUdw18tnE0KoOP01QD3ikBE&e= (in the At-Large Technology Taskforce meeting row)
Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (11:48) About my comments on referencing this taskforce work at IGF2017 it would be as an intersessional activity called Best Practices Forum on Remote Participation and anyone interested in participating can tweet to me @renataaquino Thanks Dev and allf for all your great work
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (11:48) The full proposal can be found at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.icann.org_2lJkKjf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=AnnJKNlUIBCsW15yW-h0QOkeBIk9GF84EmjfN7Y2bdM&e=
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (11:50) Thanks Renata
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:55) Please read the proposal and it appears that ICANN wants to move on this idea
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:56) On the Captioning issue Goran menitoned it a the ALAC and Board meeting this week
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (11:56) It's good that the policy tracking of advice/inputs across all communities is being looked at in ICANN. This was sorely lacking
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:57) He said that it costs $750K for every additonal language
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:57) captioning is cost effective
Renata Aquino Ribeiro: (11:57) Great news to hear that captioning will be in the budget
Glenn McKnight 2: (11:58) Yes it has started to provide a tool for people with special needs but it has been used by everyone
Josh Baulch: (11:59) Currently ICANN spends ~$1/2 million USD on live captioning
Glenn McKnight 2: (12:00) the next thing is getting ICann to caption their videos which is a legal obligation for all 501c organizations
Glenn McKnight 2: (12:00) not just Youtube captioning
Josh Baulch: (12:01) @Glenn - anything coming out of ICANN communications department as of this year, do have captioning.
Glenn McKnight 2: (12:02) Yes but in the past it hasn't been. I have been mentioning for three years
Glenn McKnight 2: (12:02) Note the lawsuits to Yale and Harvard
Glenn McKnight 2: (12:02) I use Craptions to Captions a free and easy tool to create captions
Josh Baulch: (12:02) got it - just wanted to make sure that it is noted that it is a current practice for ICANN
Glenn McKnight 2: (12:03) I did a slideshare on this topic looking for it
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (12:05) With a bot installed in the free tier, we created a public facing website at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__icannatlarge.slackarchive.io_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=-Hg03A78zxWElJCL6nVKLvWd-EXovIMq3a2aycii01Y&e= so that chats can be linked from a wiki or At-Large website to channels
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (12:06) A suggestion on the TTF list mentioned https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__matrix.org&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=Eyd0HjSvTkYmDi6lrRAdBiuYtiLJT2EyIXEuJg6CTWY&e= - Matrix is an open standard for decentralised communication, providing simple HTTP APIs and open source reference implementations for securely distributing and persisting JSON over an open federation of servers.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (12:06) Riot (matrix client ) can create private rooms and supports end to end encryption (manual enabling) . https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__medium.com_-40RiotChat_exciting-2Dnew-2Driot-2Drelease-2Dget-2Dready-2Dfor-2Dchatting-2Dsecurely-2Dacc93ecfe0a-23.vm4rp3s4s&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=5A3sGHu4TNr2ly5aMAU7UOgFwZ5Q-f2BaBK4Tq9nTtg&s=8K8ms-X_vjNus8fA2bf3KOyJiGk5BuWWCXr_Pu7ULTk&e=
Glenn McKnight 2: (12:07) We looked at Mattermost too
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (12:09) Chris Gift idea of presenting what ICANN resources for community to TTF would be welcomed
Raitme Citterio: (12:09) mattermost Compared to slack is just the issue of integrations
Glenn McKnight 2: (12:10) @raitme we are doing a test with Dev on Mattermost
Raitme Citterio: (12:11) me too @ glenn
Glenn McKnight 2: (12:13) I willl come with a video camera on the location
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (12:13) Neat dashboard
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (12:13) Thanks everyone
Yesim Nazlar: (12:13) Thank you for your participation. The meeting is now adjourned.
