Evin Erdogdu:Welcome to the NARALO Special Purpose Call on "Community Feedback on the At-Large Review", on Monday, 06 March 2017 from 17:00 UTC - 18:00 UTC.
Silvia Vivanco:Hello everyone
Javier Rúa-Jovet:hi to all
Evin Erdogdu:Hello and welcome!
Yubelkys:hello
Evin Erdogdu:Welcome Alan!
Glenn McKnight:I will monitor the questions
Evin Erdogdu:ITEMS At-Large Review Draft Report: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_atlarge-2Dreview-2Ddraft-2Dreport-2D31jan17-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=hufR_MIiPzl65BYHEhcCZKxXnLm3gNpcOSOZN9Aq-_w&s=FxytYM5RFeOBpUb4MBD2iggfdCP7E7jtijMfHGLPc0A&e=
Glenn McKnight:Please provide the date of the Copenhagen meeting time and date
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Statement from ALAC: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_2loTG3D&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=hufR_MIiPzl65BYHEhcCZKxXnLm3gNpcOSOZN9Aq-_w&s=NpYbVvGq3JF0h2yyyLw5NCurVvqchxA6hBYr8W92mQ8&e=
Evin Erdogdu:At Large Review: Workshop with Independent Examiner (ITEMS): https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__schedule.icann.org_event_9no7_at-2Dlarge-2Dreview-2Dworkshop-2Dwith-2Dindependent-2Dexaminer-2Ditems&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=hufR_MIiPzl65BYHEhcCZKxXnLm3gNpcOSOZN9Aq-_w&s=Frf6l-zNDJNxpBNluYTdJorJ8ezkGGfHwZBwo5RFuJU&e=
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Statement from the RALOs: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_2lN32uN&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=hufR_MIiPzl65BYHEhcCZKxXnLm3gNpcOSOZN9Aq-_w&s=8R_pQ2QdphBE3zg6YfhOHoodSe2YhHgjqUYib1gzQeY&e=
Glenn McKnight:Thnks Olivier
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Alan is speaking about the Statement from the ALAC now. I'll speak about the Statement from the RALOs afterwards
Evin Erdogdu:(This may be what Olivier just posted) - At-Large Workspace: ALAC Response to the At-Large Review Draft Report: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_KJjRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=hufR_MIiPzl65BYHEhcCZKxXnLm3gNpcOSOZN9Aq-_w&s=NWG13Zp-YjYZpKTEo_NFpnP7ROhfqGWmAFpG2f5iwIw&e=
Glenn McKnight:16 recommendations. Note page 71 in the report
Evin Erdogdu:I also have links prepped but will not cross post if Olivier beats me to it :)
Glenn McKnight:Thanks Evin,
leah Symekher:Which 12 are being accepted?
Glenn McKnight:Thanks Leah for the question. I think Alan might quickly go through them all in the above webinar
Javier Rúa-Jovet:@leah most of the outreach / engagement items.
Glenn McKnight:Most negative was on the Working Groups
Glenn McKnight:A large spike in 2016
Glenn McKnight:but they are not very active
avri doria:the fact that travel slots is a primary focus of the At-large review is itself problematic.
Javier Rúa-Jovet:@alan is being very generous. when he says "somewhat problematic proposals like random NomCom selection" I think "rather crazy proposals like random NomCom selection..."
Evin Erdogdu:Google Doc for RALO Response: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_12D8Ofqhm5GmbnGu9X4OSNU2yG-2DPKH9E0xSfWYBDI8hc_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=hufR_MIiPzl65BYHEhcCZKxXnLm3gNpcOSOZN9Aq-_w&s=slIqJOkhSqC7gVR1-ItHWZH8lKGczKNqRbgZ9ZCuEak&e=
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:scoll up for Google DOCS
Eduardo Diaz:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LA9Dy-JUsvgX29BFqqL6tgXYwiK7WkotOS_qTKzQN9U/edit
Lousewies van der Laan:In list of particpants would you mind changing my name to LousewIEs , and I believe Mr. da Silva is called Ron, not Rona :-)
Eduardo Diaz:That is the doc that is open until tomorrow
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:No Evin that is the wrong document. Eduardo got the right document. Or the doc which I have listed using a bit.y address above
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:bit.ly
Javier Rúa-Jovet:will do more google doc editing on my flight today to CPH
Ron da Silva:thanks LW
Lousewies van der Laan:Graag gedaan
Evin Erdogdu:Ok - thank you Eduardo. I will save his link for future reference.
Javier Rúa-Jovet:remember google doc is ALAC only comment
Glenn McKnight:When will be the meeting in Copanhagen?
Evin Erdogdu:At Large Review: Workshop with Independent Examiner (ITEMS): https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__schedule.icann.org_event_9no7_at-2Dlarge-2Dreview-2Dworkshop-2Dwith-2Dindependent-2Dexaminer-2Ditems&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=hufR_MIiPzl65BYHEhcCZKxXnLm3gNpcOSOZN9Aq-_w&s=Frf6l-zNDJNxpBNluYTdJorJ8ezkGGfHwZBwo5RFuJU&e=
Evin Erdogdu:Wednesday, March 15 • 3:15pm - 4:45pm
Glenn McKnight:thanks Evin
Evin Erdogdu:You are welcome, Glenn.
John Laprise:I'm diving into the comments again today after this meeting.
Javier Rúa-Jovet:Long Live Working Groups we should create a LLWG working group!
avri doria:unfortunate, but reviewers not understand the thing they are reviewing in endemic to the ICANN review process.
Alan Greenberg:@avri, sadly true
Eduardo Diaz:@Evin: the At Large Review: Workshop with Independent Examiner (ITEMS) is shown in the ALAC calendar from 1:15 pm to 2:45 Pm. So what is correct?
John Laprise:Thanks Alan...that's very helpful
Evin Erdogdu:Thank you for bringing this to my attention, Eduardo. It should be 3:15 pm - 4:45 pm (Copenhagen time). I will confirm shortly.
Eduardo Diaz:OK. Then is wrong in the ALAC calendar.
Yubelkys:agree
Evin Erdogdu:Thank you Eduardo - we will correct any differences between the two.
Glenn McKnight:Leah i willl get to you next
John Laprise:If the premises are wrong, we need to demonstrate with evidence that the premises are incorrect.
Eduardo Diaz:It takes time to learn ICANN!
Yubelkys:agree
Javier Rúa-Jovet:as soon as I saw an opening (through NomCom) I tried out
Javier Rúa-Jovet:I'm new!
Glenn McKnight:Yes your contribution has been great
Glenn McKnight:Leah, Loris, Marita, John and Javier are all new blood
Glenn McKnight:Ron your next
Louis Houle:@ Leah: +1
Javier Rúa-Jovet:we are part of the LLNB WG (long live new blood!)
Yubelkys:Yes
MARITA mOLL:Sorry to be late. Internet problems in rural Europe
avri doria:sec i have not hooked up audio since i had not planned to speak
Javier Rúa-Jovet: very low
Silvia Vivanco:Eduardo please speak up
Silvia Vivanco:we cannot hear you
Silvia Vivanco:well
Seth Reiss:I am not well enough informed about the report to comment intelligently but I probably agree more with some of the conclusions than most.
Eduardo Diaz:still looking for a mic
Glenn McKnight:Avri are you able to contribute nnow?
Alan Greenberg:There is no doubt that it is REALLY difficult to have people be active contributors without ever showing up at ICANN meetings - the f2f contact is part of the recharge mechanism that keeps people dedicated.
Javier Rúa-Jovet:+1 Louis
John Laprise:Agree with Louis...part of the problem is that most people simply don't have a clue about ICANN
Alan Greenberg:At-Large travel slots have stayed constant since the start, while other organization have significantly increased their travel funding. 3-4 times for some AC/SOs
Glenn McKnight:Back to you Ed in a minute
Silvia Vivanco:Please be so kind to mute your mics and speakers when not speaking
leah Symekher:I do agrre to Avri's point
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Too many people want to go for a position and not enough people want to be in working groups
leah Symekher:ponit of view/perspective
Glenn McKnight:Ed you are next then I will turn back to the agenda to ask Oliver to comment
Louis Houle:Audio gone???
Glenn McKnight:no its fine
Evin Erdogdu:Hello Louis, audio is working correctly, but I have recorded your feedback for Adigo.
Javier Rúa-Jovet:@avri there is some talk on term limits. What do we think?
Alan Greenberg:17 people in ALAC Leadership positions; 5 ALAC Chairs; 41 people in RALO Leadership positions; 23 RALO Chairs (or equivalent)
Louis Houle:Not here!!
Glenn McKnight:Marita i willl get to after Oliver
Louis Houle:It's back..
Evin Erdogdu:Great. Thank you for the update, Louis.
Glenn McKnight:Welcome Susan
Eduardo Diaz:Are RALO comments in sync with each other and ALAC response to ITEMS?
Evin Erdogdu:Welcome, Susannah!
Alan Greenberg:That's the ALAC doc not the RALO one
Evin Erdogdu:At-Large Review: Draft Report: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2Dcomments_atlarge-2Dreview-2Ddraft-2Dreport-2D2017-2D02-2D01-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=hufR_MIiPzl65BYHEhcCZKxXnLm3gNpcOSOZN9Aq-_w&s=USaQTMsnCnYbsBZ4jf71L8hxXSMGK1H_m_6v84zmK1k&e=
Susannah Gray (SF Bay ISOC Chapter):Thank you Evin, better late than never (UTC mis-calculation)
Evin Erdogdu:Google Doc for RALO Response: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_12D8Ofqhm5GmbnGu9X4OSNU2yG-2DPKH9E0xSfWYBDI8hc_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=hufR_MIiPzl65BYHEhcCZKxXnLm3gNpcOSOZN9Aq-_w&s=slIqJOkhSqC7gVR1-ItHWZH8lKGczKNqRbgZ9ZCuEak&e=
Evin Erdogdu:Aha! Glad to have you here, Susannah. :)
leah Symekher:Hi Susannah
Susannah Gray (SF Bay ISOC Chapter):<waves>
Glenn McKnight:Sorry Olivier I willl be back to you again too fast
leah Symekher:Olivier; who will vote..members?
Glenn McKnight:We need to get Olivier's polll to send it out and we will discuss it at he next NARALO meeting on March 13th
Glenn McKnight:@staff on poll. please check with Olivier on the poll question before being sent
Evin Erdogdu:Will do, thanks Glenn.
Javier Rúa-Jovet:bye! C U in CPH
Eduardo Diaz:bye
Yubelkys:Thanks
Susannah Gray (SF Bay ISOC Chapter):bye!
Glenn McKnight:byes
Lousewies van der Laan:Thnaks, safe travels
Gordon Chillcott:Thank you and bye for now.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Leah: the current membership model is different from RALO to RALO. In EURALO, it is ALSes that will vote. Individual members in EURALO vote through a single Individuals ALS
Evin Erdogdu:Thanks all!
