Webinars (2 December 2015 @ 11:00 UTC and 20:00 UTC)

Webinar 1 @ 11:00 UTC

Attendees:  Aarti Bhavana, Alain Bidron, Antonia Chu, ARI, Asha Hemrajani, Becky Burr, Boyoung Kim, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chris Disspain, Crescent, Farzaneh Badii, Finn Petersen, Fiona Aw, Gangesh Varma, Gary Hunt, Harold Arcos, houssaini@maec.gov.ma, Howard Li, Jaap Akkerhuis, Jean, Jian Chang, Joanna Malczewska, Jonathan Robinson, Jonathan Zuck, Joyce, Julia Wolman, Julie Hammer, Juuso Moisander, JX, Kaili Kan, Kavouss Arasteh, Leon Sanchez, Liana Teo, Lousewies van der Laan, Maciej Tomaszewski, Manal Ismail, Martin Boyle, Matthew Shears, Maura Gambassi, Michelle Scott Tucker, Mongi Marzoug, Niels ten Oever, Nigel Hickson, Nikki Hu, Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Panus, Pedro Ivo Silva, Peter Green, Phil Buckingham, Philadel Yeo, Philip Sheppard, Pitinan, Richard Pringle, Rinalia Abdul Rahim, Roelof Meijer, Ron da Silva, Rudi Vansnick, Sabine Meyer, Sébastien Bachollet, Sorina Teleanu, Steve DelBianco, Susan Payne, Suzanne Woolf, Tatiana Tropina, Thomas Rickert, Tom Dale, Tracy Hackshaw, Wafa Dahmani, Wanawit Ahkuputra, Yuri Takamatsu, Zdravko, Zheng Song   (72)

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Brenda Brewer: (12/2/2015 04:36) Welcome to the Informational Webinar on CCWG-Accountability Draft Proposal on Work Stream 1 Recommendations on 2 December 2015 @ 11:00 UTC!   Chat sessions are being archived and follow the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior: http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/accountability/expected-standards

  Alice Jansen: (04:57) Please mute your line if not speaking.

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (04:58) good day all

  Niels ten Oever: (04:59) Hi all, is it only possible to dial in, not connect audio via browser?

  Leon Sanchez (CCWG Co-Chair, ALAC): (04:59) Hello everyone, we will be beginning in a minute

  Tom Dale (ACIG GAC Secretariat): (04:59) Hello, and many thanks to ICANN staff for their efforts.

  Tatiana Tropina: (05:00) Niels, there was a list of dial in numbers

  Tatiana Tropina: (05:00) or more precisely, the link to the list of the numbers

  Tatiana Tropina: (05:01) oh sorry, I thought you were asking about dialing in :)

  Niels ten Oever: (05:01) I know, but I'd prefer to connect audio via my browser

  Tatiana Tropina: (05:01) hm, I can connect....

  Tatiana Tropina: (05:02) or it seemed so :( no, I can't

  Niels ten Oever: (05:02) :'(

  Rudi Vansnick: (05:02) sorry for begin a bit late

  nigel hickson: (05:02) Good afternoon

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member: (05:03) Just starting Rudi

  Sabine Meyer (GAC - Germany): (05:04) hi everyone!

  Harold Arcos: (05:04) Hi all.

  Sabine Meyer (GAC - Germany): (05:04) mute/unmute is *6/*7?

  Harold Arcos: (05:05) Yes @Sabine in your cell phone mute/unmute is *6/*7.

  Sabine Meyer (GAC - Germany): (05:06) Thank you!

  Harold Arcos: (05:06) or *6/*6

  Thomas Rickert, CCWG Co-Chair: (05:08) Can those not speaking please mute their microphones?

  Asha Hemrajani: (05:10) There is quite a bit of background noise and typing near a microphone, a bit hard to hear Leon.

  Jonathan Robinson: (05:11) @Asha. Agree sounds like Leon may be a bit close to microphone with mic amplifier a little low

  Alice Jansen: (05:12) Link to Draft report: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-work-stream-1-recs-30nov15-en.pdf

  wafa Dahmani: (05:26) I need a dial out in frensh

  wafa Dahmani: (05:26) i have it in english

  wafa Dahmani: (05:26) how to switch please

  Brenda Brewer: (05:27) Wafa, I will arrange a call to you on the French Channel

  wafa Dahmani: (05:27) thank you

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (05:29) Our 2nd draft proposal called for supermajority voting thresholds to exercise a community power (75%).   Our 3rd draft uses Support in the absence of substantial objections

  wafa Dahmani: (05:30) it's ok now

  Jonathan Zuck/ACT: (05:44) Sure. Okay.

  Asha Hemrajani: (05:44) Well explained Jonathan

  Jonathan Robinson: (05:44) <QUESTION> Does the very clear / distinct separation between IANA & ICANN budget represent a change in this draft?

  Jonathan Zuck/ACT: (05:48) @Jonathan, it does. In fact, the notion of a caretaker budget would explicitly include IANA functions funding

  Leon Sanchez (CCWG Co-Chair, ALAC): (05:49) there's a bit of echo

  Leon Sanchez (CCWG Co-Chair, ALAC): (05:49) friendly reminder to mute your microphones if you are not speaking

  Gary Hunt - UK Government: (05:51) @Brenda, when/will the slides be made available for download?

  Alice Jansen: (05:53) Link to annex 13: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-annex-13-30nov15-en.pdf

  Alice Jansen: (05:53) @Gary - slides available at: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56984258

  Niels ten Oever: (05:59) audio of leon getting worse

  Asha Hemrajani: (05:59) Leon, your voice is very muffled

  Philip Sheppard BRG: (06:01) <QUESTION> why the reference to internationally recognised in place of a more specif reference such as the UDHR ? </QUESTION>

  Leon Sanchez (CCWG Co-Chair, ALAC): (06:02) @Philip, this was an issue widely discussed and it was agreed that no particular reference to any HR instrument would be made and instead this kind of reference would be fleshed out as part of WS2

  Philip Sheppard BRG: (06:03) Thanks - I would vote for certainty here !!

  Niels ten Oever: (06:04) @Philip, have you looked at the Annex, there is a quite a broad rational to be found there.

  Philip Sheppard BRG: (06:04) Thanks  - will do

  nigel hickson: (06:12) Geneva is cold...

  Susan Payne - Valideus: (06:13) <QUESTION> Re ST 18: The recommendation includes a statement that the GAC has autonomy to refine its Operating Procedures to specify how objections are raised and considered (eg disallowing a single country to continue an objection).  This isn't a Bylaws change presumably so where will this be captured ?  Although this is treated in the explanatory text as being limited to  a change to operating procedures where a single Govt is abusing its position there is no limit to this situation.  What safeguard is there that, in disallowing certain views, the GAC could not effectively change the definition of "formal objection".  <QUESTION>

  Gary Hunt - UK Government: (06:13) Many thanks Alice!

  Philip Sheppard BRG: (06:14) Q was answered thanks

  Susan Payne - Valideus: (06:17) my concern is that "formal objection" could be redefined.  Are you saying that all disallowed views will nhevertheless be reported to the Board

  Alice Jansen: (06:18) You are also welcome to voice your question on the call

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:18) @Susan -- the words "absence of any formal objection" are goig into ICANN bylaws.   GAC can't change that language.   GAC can, however, enact procedures or restrictions on how a GAC rep makes a "formal objection"

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member: (06:21) A great deal of effort wnet into gaining this cncensus language  for this report,  but significant work obviously still is required within the GACs own  OP's

  Brenda Brewer: (06:22) You may raise your hand to verbally ask questions.  Your mic will be activated at that time.  Be sure your computer mic is on.

  Brenda Brewer: (06:23) Harold Arcos: <QUESTION>Históricamente se cree que los DDHH son violados únicamente por los gobiernos pero ya es mundialmente conocido que las empresas también lo hacen. Entonces en la redacción sobre los DDHH dentro de los estatutos de ICANN debería estar presente un compromiso más explícito sobre hacer legalmente todo lo posible para garantizar que los DDHH de los usuarios finales no sean violados durante el uso de protocolos, identificadores únicos, entre otros recursos. Incluir esto es posible?<QUESTION>

  Brenda Brewer: (06:24) Harold Arcos: <QUESTION>Historically it is believed that the human rights are violated by governments alone but it is world renowned companies do too. Then in writing on Human Rights within ICANN's bylaws should be present a more explicit commitment to legally do everything possible to ensure that the human rights of end users are not violated while using protocols, unique identifiers, among other resources . Include this is possible?<QUESTION>

  Pedro Ivo Silva [GAC Brasil]: (06:27) <QUESTION> Where is the 5 out of 6 approval threshold for Chartering Organizations. Is it in the CCWG Charter? I could not find it there </Question>

  Harold Arcos: (06:27) Thanks a lot Leon

  Leon Sanchez (CCWG Co-Chair, ALAC): (06:27) De nada Harold!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member: (06:29) Yes  thank yoiu all for joining we hope you all found this webinar useful...

  wafa Dahmani: (06:29) thank you all speakers interpreters particiapnts ..

  Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]: (06:29) @Pedro -- the CCWG charter desribes Full Consensus and Consensus -- where a small minority disagrees, but most agree.   (page 7)

  Gary Hunt - UK Government: (06:30) Thanksyou all for this webinar!

  Pedro Ivo Silva [GAC Brasil]: (06:30) @Steve: I guess this is related to the recommendations within the CCWG...not with respect to the COs.

  Leon Sanchez (CCWG Co-Chair, ALAC): (06:30) Thanks everyone!

  Alice Jansen: (06:30) Public comments can be submitted through 21 December - see https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en for more information- The link to the survey is as follows: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ccwg-acct-draftproposal

  Pedro Ivo Silva [GAC Brasil]: (06:30) But still, who says 5 out of 6 is still a consensus...I guess w haven't discussed this

  Leon Sanchez (CCWG Co-Chair, ALAC): (06:31) Please read the full proposal!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member: (06:31) Bye everyine  Thank you all :-) 

  Niels ten Oever: (06:31) Thanks

  Niels ten Oever: (06:31) bye

  wafa Dahmani: (06:31) bye all

  Asha Hemrajani: (06:31) Thank you

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (06:31) bye all

  nigel hickson: (06:31) Very useful; thanks to all

  Gary Hunt - UK Government: (06:31) Good afternoon from London!

Webinar 2 @ 20:00 UTC

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