Sub-Group Members:   Jay Daley, Adam, Jeffrey Eckhaus, Paul Kane, Patricio Poblete, Elaine Pruis

Staff:  Bart Boswinkel, Bernie Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Kim Davies

Apologies:  Elise Gerich

**Please let Brenda know if your name has been left off the list (attendees or apologies).**


Transcript CWG DT-A 8 June.doc

Transcript CWG DT-A 8 June.pdf


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Proposed Agenda 

i) Update from Kim, and Adam on progress of formulating an acceptable SLE

ii) An agreement from the Working Group to work with IANA staff to capture all of IANA's processes and complete the SLE after the 8th June.

iii) Approval of a statement from the SLE Design Team to be included in the Proposal (attached).

iv) Volunteers to give Presentations for participants at ICANN meeting in BA interested in the work of the SLE Working Group.

v) Any other business


Welcome chair DTA

Change of working format

CWG needs to endorese approach suggested by DTA 

To be raised by Paul

1) Update from Kim, and Adam on progress of formulating an acceptable SLE

Jay Daley on the call

Kim Davies: Green light to Evolve Document and needs further development. The draft circulated calls out principles

Adam:  Question to group: Group agree to work together post 8 June 2015?

Post June 8 deadline?

What is standing of the group post 8 June. once the CWG has completed its proposal?

Note work continue under CWG umbrella

Jay: Customer needs to be involved in the discussions

Conclusion: Adam and Kim will continue to work and report to group on a weekly basis 

iii) Approval of a statement from the SLE Design Team to be included in the Proposal (attached).

Run through of the document by Bernie Turcotte

Background section 

Change word suggesting, -> recommending

No objection (accepted)


Jeff Ackhaus: Last sentence: not clear to what wide time window is referring to.

Only recently, some participant raise that NTIA SLA should be used. Not acceptable to DTA: NTIA no longer part post transition. SLA no longer fit for purpose.

Clarifying language may needed.

Principle section

Paragraph 1. No comments

2. No comments

Patricio: should be reported by IANA. Should external parties be alowed be informed

Raw data is already made available. Should be re-iterated.



Elaine: it is confusing

Jay: Rewrote section. Initial rlevance was for analysis. Not strong enough meaning.. Attempt to  narrow, focus on customers. Critical measures was already in

Kim: Distinction between what IANA is to measure and report on and threshold for none compliance

Community should define what it considers relevant versus threshold measures (critical metrics)

Patricio: Relevant data is data that should be checked for compliance.

Question: Relevant what is deemed relevant for community.

Kim: guard against that every is measured is part of threshold

Analysis for customer service

Proposed wording

insert word " customer"  -> customer critical metrics

4. Clear definition

No Comments

5 Definition of thresholds

Jay: should be set on 'Initial" data

Include "Initial"

Threshold should be set against expected service level.

Starting point is what IANA is doing.

Currently estimation of what DT A thinks is reasonable. Now need to be cautious, to set wrong expectations. Based on actual data, not prescribe 

Definition of threshold taken on board, but measurement are needed

Specific Threshold undefined an define until data has been collected

Alternatively: set threshold but note it needs to be underpinned later

Include word Initial in document, and include in SLE it self additional language

6. Review Process

No Comment

7. Regular Reporting

Near real time seems excessive

Add "As and when collected" after real time

Section Capturing status-quo

Paragrpah 1.  No comments

Paragraph A:  No comments

Paragraph B:  No comments

Paragraph C:  No comments

Paragraph D:  No comments


Monitoring Past Performance

Minor grammatical error

Jay: Use of the word registry  to refer is confusing (IANA also registry), registry needs to be ameneded


Omit text to clarify need to clarify needs to 


No comments

Comments of Members

Elaine Supported with edits

Jeff: Ibidem

Patricio: supported

Jay: supported

Paul: supported

Move forward to CWG to be included

v) Volunteers to give Presentations for participants at ICANN meeting in BA interested in the work of the SLE Working Group.

Invite members DTA to present for various groups


Jeff: Wil be at the meeting _> gTLD registry

Patricio: present LACTLD and at ccNSO 

Jay: Tech day

Slides: prepare standard slide deck


Conclude edits today

Closure 21.03 UTC

Action Items

Chat Transcript

  Brenda Brewer: (6/8/2015 14:33) Welcome to the DT-A Meeting on 8th of June at 20:00 UTC.

  Bart Boswinkel: (14:55) Hi All

  Patricio Poblete: (14:56) Hi everyone

  Kim Davies: (14:57) Howdy

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (14:58) fairly standard to wait till 3 after the hour

  Paul Kane: (14:58) sure

  Brenda Brewer: (14:58) Elise Gerich sent regrets.

  Paul Kane: (14:59) thanks

  Jeffrey Eckhaus: (15:02) Jeff Eckhaus here. Just joined the call

  Brenda Brewer: (15:02) Jay Daley just joined phone line

  Paul Kane: (15:03) Thanks

  Adam 2: (15:05) My mic is not working

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (15:06) adam have you tried clicking on the little mike at the top of this window

  Patricio Poblete: (15:06) No objection

  Elaine Pruis-Donuts: (15:06) is the detail of their exchange being recorded/ made available

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (15:07) no

  Paul Kane: (15:08) Yes they will make the iterations available to the DT on list

  Paul Kane: (15:08) Actual meeting notes are not recorded

  Elaine Pruis-Donuts: (15:08) thanks Paul that is good

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (15:08) it was more about Kim and Adam being able to work openly to get starfted - from this point on probably no major issues

  Adam 2: (15:12) Yes that should not be an issue, but understand it will be a work in progress

  Elaine Pruis-Donuts: (15:14) Thanks Adam, it is better to see the progression of a work than try to figure out how the final piece got that way

  Bart Boswinkel: (15:14) Please note this is thge clean version Paul send out

  Bart Boswinkel: (15:15) If  someone want to see the redline please let me know

  Bart Boswinkel: (15:17) Please note if you have a question on the language Bernie is reading, to raise your hand

  Bart Boswinkel: (15:24) Docu,ent is scrollable for all

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (15:27) Please lower your hand if you no longer need to speak

  Kim Davies: (15:51) +1

  Paul Kane: (15:51) TLD Manager

  Paul Kane: (15:52) ?

  Patricio Poblete: (15:53) or "the requester"

  Kim Davies: (15:53) Depends on context. In terms of change request submission, use "requester", in terms of who is expected to approve a change request, I would try to omit the text as it can vary who needs to approve

  Patricio Poblete: (15:56) Are the parentheses necessary at the beginning of Monitoring Past Performance?

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (15:58) Paul I still have a point

  Elaine Pruis-Donuts: (15:58) i will not be in BA

  Kim Davies: (16:02) I will

  Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (16:03) thanks all

  Kim Davies: (16:03) Thanks!

  Elaine Pruis-Donuts: (16:03) thank you

  Patricio Poblete: (16:03) Bye everyone

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