11:58:36 From Narayanaswamy Baluswamy to Everyone:
Good Day to all
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12:02:28 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
Greetings. - Dr. T V Gopal, Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, College of Engineering, Guindy Campus, Anna University , Chennai, INDIA.
12:03:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
g'Day from Aus
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12:04:39 From Laura Margolis to Everyone:
Hello from Montevideo-Uruguay!
12:05:52 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Welcome everyone to the EURALO Roundtable on the RDRS!
12:05:52 From Lilian De Luque Bruges to Everyone:
Hello all, from Colombia LAC
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Hi all from Bangladesh !
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Hi all from Nigeria
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Hi from Bordeaux, France !
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12:20:44 From Alexander Isavnin to Everyone:
How do ICANN verify legality of LEA request and how “security researchers” are being authorised?
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12:21:52 From Yuko Yokoyama - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Here is the link to our monthly report: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rdrs-usage-metrics-17jan24-en.pdf
12:22:08 From Yuko Yokoyama - ICANN Org to Everyone:
We have also conducted a webinar to go over this report, and the recording is available here: https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/cizAyJC8JxfMa4CpxL7sp9uJ1qBGmaqBkmFDmKjsGZ6hlO0svtLWM6r9BC0O7U7w80vHwQIGCxtSRzRG.QJQHp18wP8EMkf_J
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Thanks for sharing @Yuko Yokoyama - ICANN Org
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12:23:24 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
All presentations are linked to the wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/WgCWEQ
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12:23:43 From Olivier Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
SSAD = System for Standardized Access and Disclosure
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12:26:28 From Yuko Yokoyama - ICANN Org to Everyone:
@Alexander Isavnin - ICANN does not verify the identity or professional credentials from any requestors within the RDRS. The registrars are responsible for reviewing the request in its whole with any supporting documents that requestors may provide to determine whether the requestors have legitimate interest or not.
12:50:48 From Oksana Prykhodko to Everyone:
Have I missed any comments?
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Hello Oksana, I will be posting the chat with all comments made to the wiki page after today’s meeting.
12:54:17 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy to Everyone:
Q. Why do some Registries and Registrar's participate and some not? How does a qualified requester obtained data from the
12:54:43 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy to Everyone:
Non participating entities?
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12:55:31 From Matthias Hudobnik to Everyone:
Data transfer impact assessment
12:55:43 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy to Everyone:
Is it foreseen that all data would come under the program?
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12:57:35 From Svitlana Tkachenko to Everyone:
How can a registrar determine whether a requester is qualified or not? Do you (ICANN) have such criteria?
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13:00:57 From Yuko Yokoyama - ICANN Org to Everyone:
@Sivasubramanian Muthusamy - The RDRS is a voluntary system for registrars. Currently registries are not a part of the user group. As for registrar’s participation, this is something ICANN is working on by engaging with registrars to understand why they may or may not want to participate. This is something we can work with the GNSO’s Standing Committee, as well as RrSG, too. Once the RDRS’s 2-year operation concludes and the ICANN Board and GNSO Council agrees on the next steps, there may be a tool that comes with a contractual requirements for contracted parties to participate in the tool.
13:02:56 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
When submitting a question or comment please start with a <QUESTION> and end with a “<QUESTION>” or <COMMENT> </COMMENT>.
13:03:33 From Yuko Yokoyama - ICANN Org to Everyone:
@Svitlana Tkachenko - ICANN does not have a criteria to “qualify” the requestor within the RDRS. It is up to registrars and their applicable laws to make that determination of whether the requestor has the legitimate interest.
13:05:02 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy to Everyone:
Thank you Yoko
.ДЕТИ - GTLD for childrens. Did non check it yet, hope EURALO experts will help me
13:13:55 From Laura Margolis to Everyone:
magic :)
13:14:02 From Roberto Gaetano to Everyone:
The problem about 3rd level is that the solution of checking what the TLD is and determine accordingly whether to consider 2LD or 3LD is open for problems, as it will oblige to maintain a table or something where you make assumptions - that can obviously change in time. This is the same type of situation that created UA problem because of the assumption that TLDs were max 3chars long (except for arpa)
13:19:52 From Alfredo Calderon to Everyone:
Thorough test from an end-user perspective. Thank you @Olivier Crepin-Leblond
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@Olivier Crepin-Leblond Thanks for that presentation! Brilliant representation of the ordinary working stiff.
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13:23:47 From Frédéric Taes to Everyone:
GDPR only concerns individuals (data subjects), so what does it have to do with legal entities and domains registered by legal entities?
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13:25:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Yes interesting perspectives (and experiences) shared thank you
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13:27:44 From Sebastien Ducos to Everyone:
Thomas will be much better at taking this
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you are very welcome too Sebastien-)
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13:30:53 From Finn Petersen to Everyone:
A company name is not personal data even if it contain a name of a person - this is clarified in NIS2
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13:32:32 From Frédéric Taes to Everyone:
Thank you Thomas for your answer. FYI, in Belgium it's mandatory by law to disclose legal entity on website and any communication (email, paper...), it's GDPR compliant, and directory is publicly available (https://kbopub.economie.fgov.be/kbopub/zoeknaamfonetischform.html?lang=en) this directory can also mention domain name.
13:33:18 From Matthias Hudobnik to Everyone:
@Thomas Rickert thanks!
13:34:17 From Thomas Rickert to Everyone:
Frédérik, thanks for sharing the example from Belgium. Where there is a law requiring the disclosure, there is no risk for the registrar.
13:34:34 From Shah Zahidur Rahman to Everyone:
many things have cleared from this discussion.Thank you all panelist it was great discussion. have to leave now its late night here !
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thanks for joining us Shah!
13:36:04 From Thomas Rickert to Everyone:
Exacactly, Sebastien. The historical data is the big issue as there is no way for the registrar to make sure they get it right not to disclose personal data coming with legal entities’ data.
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13:40:08 From Narayanaswamy Baluswamy to Everyone:
Great session. Thank you all.
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13:41:21 From Roberto Gaetano to Everyone:
I wonder if AI provide a solution to the manual checking, or whether the risk of errors would be too high - but OTOH there is no zero risk with human checking either
13:41:41 From Bill Jouris to Everyone:
What would happen if the question to registrant about being a legal person included a note that, if they say yes, their are agreeing to release of their data? That would seem to provide an incentive to get the queation right.
13:41:58 From Matthias Hudobnik to Everyone:
@Sebastien Ducos if the decision of such a panel is not binding and just a service or recommendation for registrars, who do not have the expertise - the shifting of responsibility might be not too big…
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13:43:15 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
Thank you all. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, INDIA
13:43:26 From Sebastien Ducos to Everyone:
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Yes, very possibly.
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13:44:17 From Matthias Hudobnik to Everyone:
https://edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2018/letter-icann_en
13:45:30 From Yuko Yokoyama - ICANN Org to Everyone:
@Olivier Crepin-Leblond - We do understand the possibility of a person making multiple accounts for malicious purpose, and the identity verification could mitigate that risk. That said, the SSAD, that envisioned the identity verification, turned out to be quite costly, for the specific reason of identity verification. This is a challenging problem to solve,
13:46:13 From Olivier Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
I would recommend that at least at sumittal stage there should be a "captcha" test to make sure the submitter is a human and not a machine. -- at least that takes care of Bots.
13:46:55 From Matthias Hudobnik to Everyone:
https://edpb.europa.eu/sites/default/files/webform/public_consultation_reply/controllerprocessorcomments.pdf
Thats the one!
13:47:01 From Yuko Yokoyama - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Thank you for your suggestion, Olivier. I will take it back to the team.
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13:49:16 From Natalia Filina to Everyone:
Happy to have you Thomas, thanks for such active intervention
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13:51:31 From Oksana Prykhodko to Everyone:
GNSO Council is the key
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13:55:09 From Roberto Gaetano to Everyone:
NetMundial+10 April 29 and 30, 2024.
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13:56:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Thank you all for another excellent and informative EURALO Rnd Table... Bye for now...
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13:56:38 From Gabriel BOMBAMBO to Everyone:
Merci Natalia, tous les panelistes, Michelle et aurevoir à tous !
13:56:40 From Eugénie Chaumont to Everyone:
Thank you, really interesting !
13:57:04 From Claire Mélanie Popineau to Everyone:
Thank you for all those precious insights !
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thank you for your participation and comment dear Gabriel!
13:57:36 From Matthias Hudobnik to Everyone:
Thank you all! Bye!
13:57:54 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy to Everyone:
Thank you
13:57:55 From avri doria to Everyone:
was intersting. thanks.
13:58:01 From Liam Sarwas to Everyone:
Thanks!
13:58:03 From Alfredo Calderon to Everyone:
Thank you for an excellent exchange of information and ideas.
13:58:16 From Siranush Vardanyan - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Thanks to organizers and bye
13:58:17 From Steinar Grøtterød, ISOC Norway to Everyone:
Bye
13:58:17 From Alfredo Calderon to Everyone:
Bye!
13:58:18 From Waqar Ahmad to Everyone:
Thanks bye
13:58:22 From Roberto Gaetano to Everyone:
bye
13:58:29 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE to Everyone:
bye*
13:58:32 From Wladimir Dávalos to Everyone:
Thank you every one
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Thank you very much!
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Bye
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