Zoom Chat: 2022-06-14 Joint Meeting: ALAC and SSAC

08:48:35 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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08:48:45 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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09:10:39 From Andrew McConachie - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    SAC121: SSAC Briefing on Routing Security is scheduled to be published today on the SSAC website
09:15:51 From Herb Waye to Everyone:
    Greetings from the Office of the Ombudsman. The Ombuds team is available virtually and in person at this hybrid Policy Meeting. Our office is in Rio Grande 1 and our Zoom link for the virtual office is on the Main Meeting page in Conversations. Wear your masks, social distance, and ask permission before shaking hands or hugging. Stay safe and be kind.
09:21:35 From Glenn McKnight- VSIG to Everyone:
    Greetings  Herb
09:21:44 From Herb Waye to Everyone:
    Hello Glenn
09:33:27 From Chokri Ben Romdhane to Everyone:
    <Question >did SSAC recomand to manage the IDN variants to others level or layers, application level for example  which is mean that the management of the IDN variants is out of scope of ICANN <\question >
09:35:32 From Steve Sheng - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    The URL of SAC120 is at: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-120-en.pdf
09:35:58 From Steve Sheng - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    On page 7 of the report, the SSAC goes into a little detail on how to apply conservatism.
09:38:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr - Internet Australia to Everyone:
    THX @Steve
09:38:27 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
    And if they're all separately delegated, DNS Abuse mitigation could be complex.
09:39:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr - Internet Australia to Everyone:
    indeed  very complex!
09:47:51 From Danielle Rutherford - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    The Addendum to SAC114 is available here: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-114-addendum-en.pdf
09:48:57 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
    there's the "conservative approach" again...
09:49:32 From Suzanne to Everyone:
    One observation about “conservative” treatment of potential variant sets is that it’s not unique to variants. Technical guidance from the ietf, root server operators, and SSAC have always counseled being conservative about what’s allowed in the root zone, because it’s a shared resource and issues arising there potentially have wide impacts. The conservatism principle applies to other aspects of root zone management as well, for instance it’s very relevant to NCAP.
09:50:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr - Internet Australia to Everyone:
    Noted @Suzanne  thx
09:51:28 From Jim Galvin to Everyone:
    With respect to NCAP Update, in the interest of time the co-Chairs would like to suggest we defer this update to this afternoon at 3pm when there will be an hour long community update on NCAP.  There will be much more detail about NCAP then.  Please attend there and bring lots of questions!
09:51:45 From Danielle Rutherford - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    The NCAP Status Update meeting information is available here: https://74.schedule.icann.org/meetings/wcin8eB2MQNNRwWP6#
09:51:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr - Internet Australia to Everyone:
    Excellent plan @JZ  CPWG will benefit from a deeper dive into these topics
09:55:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr - Internet Australia to Everyone:
    But the trick is to optimise the possibility of having such a longer term strategy being  *Well informed*  that may be where mutualism between our AC's  may be useful IMO
10:00:11 From Chokri Ben Romdhane to Everyone:
    @JZ the conservative approach continues with DNS abuse
10:01:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr - Internet Australia to Everyone:
    Great session people  looking forward to the next interaction(s)  Thanks to you all!
10:02:10 From Bill Jouris to Everyone:
    The question always with a "copnservative approach" is:  What is it we are trying to conserve?  And should we?
10:03:32 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
    So far ALL of the phishing attacks I have received have had BOTH a compromised site and a maliciously registered domain
10:04:30 From Danielle Rutherford - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    All of the SSAC publications are available here https://www.icann.org/groups/ssac/documents
10:05:00 From Alberto Soto to Everyone:
    Thanks, bye bye!!
10:05:23 From Herb Waye to Everyone:
    Stay safe and be kind.
10:05:25 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
    thanks
10:05:27 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
    bye
10:05:27 From Samik Kharel to Everyone:
    thanks
10:05:35 From SALYOU FANNY to Everyone:
    Thanks Bye all.
10:05:35 From Satish Babu to Everyone:
    Thanks for a great session!
10:05:40 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
    great session
10:05:44 From Yeşim Saglam - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Thank you all this session is now adjourned.