Andrea Glandon: (2/6/2019 09:53) Welcome to the At-Large Review Implementation Working Group Call held on Wednesday, 06 February 2019 at 17:00 UTC.
Andrea Glandon: (09:53) Wiki Agenda Page: https://community.icann.org/x/iqMWBg
Maureen Hilyard: (10:55) Hi everyone
sergio salinas porto: (10:56) Hi everyone!
John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO): (10:57) Hi all
Liz Orembo: (10:57) Hello Everyone!
Lianna Galstyan: (10:57) Greetings
Alfredo Calderon: (10:58) Hola / Hello to all!
Ricardo Holmquist: (10:59) Hello everyone, good day
Ricardo Holmquist: (10:59) there is some background noise
Alberto Soto: (11:00) Hello everyone!!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:00) Hi
Heidi Ullrich: (11:00) Welcome, All!
Evin Erdoğdu: (11:00) Hello all, welcome
Humberto Carrasco: (11:01) Hello everyone!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:01) :-)
Amrita Choudhury: (11:01) Hi All
Maureen Hilyard: (11:02) HI Amrita... congratulations again
Sarah Kiden: (11:02) Hi everyone
Sarah Kiden: (11:02) Congratulations Amrita!
Amrita Choudhury: (11:02) Thanks Maureen
Glenn McKnight: (11:02) Hi Madam Chair ( new Dehli)
Javier Rúa-Jovet (ALAC): (11:02) hi all
Amrita Choudhury: (11:02) Glenn too much
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:03) Everyone is obviouslt Keen to get onto the Job :-)
Andrea Glandon: (11:04) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_board-2Dmaterial_resolutions-2D2019-2D01-2D27-2Den-231.c&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=k7uKdjSb7_ZjItyVqrCYHo_rKms9SFxlmbYEJqG-y9I&m=FCkcJaN_2yGSc9d4euDbNlqHzmU1D1Kyck9DrGDd7vk&s=nNEZiQsKI6XkO9yMiuDK448markYb_V5iy-QIQzWgzA&e=
Amrita Choudhury: (11:05) Thanks Sarah
Andrea Glandon: (11:06) We do have his slide deck
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:06) Ohh yes we just were getting onto the actual work
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:06) Yes please a short interlude from MSSI
Andrea Glandon: (11:07) Slides are up and Lars have presenter status
Glenn McKnight: (11:07) What is is MSSI
Glenn McKnight: (11:07) Why do these people assume we now the short forms
Glenn McKnight: (11:08) know
Lianna Galstyan: (11:08) I thought it's only me not knowing what is MSSI :)
Jennifer Bryce: (11:08) Apologies - MSSI stands for ICANN's Multistakeholder Strategy and Strategic Initiatives team
Glenn McKnight: (11:08) poor communication. typical ICANN
Lianna Galstyan: (11:08) was trying to search it quickly
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:08) NP Lianna
Jennifer Bryce: (11:09) MSSI oversees the specific and organizational reviews
Heidi Ullrich: (11:09) Apologies, Glenn. We all should keep that in mind when communicating.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:09) amongst various support roles they assist and facilitate in various parts of the organisational and specifici review processes conducted BY the COmmunity
Javier Rúa-Jovet (ALAC): (11:10) My excuses to all for not being able to attend Kobe.
Glenn McKnight: (11:10) No problem, just good form
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:11) Bye thanks Lars and Jennofer
Glenn McKnight: (11:11) I recall speaking with Lars on the followup on the review. not content but on their approach and procedures. I think the same folks got another contract right after our review
Lars Hoffmann: (11:11) Thanks all!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:11) THat was answered in CHat @Maureen
Glenn McKnight: (11:11) @cheryl she is being polite
Lianna Galstyan: (11:11) as always
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:12) and we have work to do @Glenn
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:12) this is all look up stuff
Glenn McKnight: (11:12) again, being polite
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:12) and MSSI have been 'Involved' in our process so far any way so gardly NEW
Glenn McKnight: (11:12) thanks Lars and Maureen
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:13) We have had their staff engaged in all ou calls to date but now they are less involved
Lars Hoffmann: (11:13) Thank you all - we are signing off.
Sarah Kiden: (11:13) Thank you
Andrea Glandon: (11:13) https://community.icann.org/display/ALRW/At-Large+Review+Implementation+Plan+Development
Liz Orembo: (11:14) thank you
Heidi Ullrich: (11:14) The ARIWG was able to move forward even during the Board's review of the Implementation Plan.
Heidi Ullrich: (11:15) In fact, there has been forward movement in the Implementation throughout the last several months in the ongoing activities.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:16) Can we please take the teminology we use into account, as one on the critisisms of the Independant Examiner was us having too many *Working Groups* any way having the continued plethora of the term used for SUB Teams of the single At-Large Review Implementation Working Group seems **highly questionable** and can be changed now
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:18) Just need to replace most of the use of "Group" with Team
Alberto Soto: (11:18) @Cheryl work team?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:18) Sub Team
Ricardo Holmquist: (11:18) @CLO, great idea
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:18) but Work Team is OK as well
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:19) Working Group is a defined term
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:19) that was an earlier suggestion before Maureen became chair and it raised some issues
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:20) I would be glad to have Working Teams instead of WGs
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:21) oh well what would I know you have ll been warned bit the next EI will be stating this as a critisism of not being engaged in Policy work and being too focuseed on administration... but there you go whatever the problem was this better nomenclature causes I am yet to understand
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:21) I will shut up now
Glenn McKnight: (11:21) A rose is a rose by any other name
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:21) (on this ;-)
Liz Orembo: (11:22) if parts of some issues are already being implemented, teams would make more sense.
Glenn McKnight: (11:22) More reason why i proposed a Policy Comment workshop
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:22) I would not mind the name as long as we have appropriate collaboration and engage matrix on policy development processes
Alberto Soto: (11:23) @Glenn Not legally
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:23) and am I to assume that the Job descripton for these Leaders will be stateing they are facilatatory to the groups work and administrative in nature?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:24) <Question> once prepared and am I to assume that the Job descripton for these Leaders will be stateing they are facilatatory to the teams work and administrative in nature, including to the contribution to Reporting Templates? <question>
Glenn McKnight: (11:24) As to job descriptions, we are good at titles but lack tanigle work responsibiiities, this is true for Chair and Secretariats of RALO
Glenn McKnight: (11:25) As to job descriptions, we are good at titles but lack tanigle work responsibiiities, this is true for Chair and Secretariats of RALO's i recall the long APRALO rules spells it out but others don't have clear job descriptions
Glenn McKnight: (11:26) A co-chair approach isn't a bad idea . Ie NOMCOM has a Chair and CHAIR ELECT which has a shadowing job duty
Ricardo Holmquist: (11:26) On items 3 and 9 there is no Working Group Leader, and it says (staff only meetings), but I think some of the issues are not only related to staff
Ricardo Holmquist: (11:28) for example in issue 9, there is a need for Staff improving their social media skills, but also for all At-Large
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:28) Step up as a volunteer now
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:28) then back fill what is mossing
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:28) missing
Ricardo Holmquist: (11:28) I volunteer for number 7, I do some of the Implementation strategy
Ricardo Holmquist: (11:29) @CLO, you mean, me volunteering to change the issues, or Eduardo asking?
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:31) I think timelines are important in this case
Heidi Ullrich: (11:33) Ricardo has confirmed he will volunteer as the Issue leader for Issue 7
Javier Rúa-Jovet (ALAC): (11:36) I think Ricardo is extraordinary!
Ricardo Holmquist: (11:37) @CLO: thank you!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:38) :-)
Ricardo Holmquist: (11:38) @Javier: muchas gracias!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:38) Excellent @Heidi and maked perfect sense
Javier Rúa-Jovet (ALAC): (11:38) I think that my current complications (including my absence from Kobe) justifies a change in my group.
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:38) great Heidi
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:39) understood Javier , but your ongoing and exemplary contributions will we trust continue as best as you can manage
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:44) he had issue 1 but there is a flow through
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:44) that is a great recommendation Jonathan working with Alan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:45) JZ will bring in the new thinking conversations in the small Sub Team IMO it is a think tank exercise and probably needs at least 7-9 Members
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:45) so not so small
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:46) Yes thay are indeedOCL and we don't need to rework that
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (11:47) doubling ==> duplication of resources
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:47) exactly
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:47) but the coordination role is essential
Liz Orembo: (11:48) maybe we should get the issues pages updated for the ones that implementation has began.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:49) Issue #4 makes perfect sense to be under ALAC Chair Lead
Marita Moll: (11:49) So sorry folks, have another committment, so have to leave this call early
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:49) I would be happy to work on RALO participation in events #13
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:49) that will be the first order of work Liz Yes
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:50) Ricardo has stepped up
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:50) for Issue 7
Alberto Soto: (11:51) Sorry, I was offline a few minutes
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:51) Alberto this seems a natural fit for you + another RALO Lead perhaps? Issue 13
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:52) Olivier you and Alberto on Issue #13??
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:52) I put myself forward
Alberto Soto: (11:53) @Cheryl, OK!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:54) Daniel I do hope you will still have sufficient time for ATRT2 work obviously you would always be in close coordination
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:54) should read ATRT3
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:55) no one touches my ATRT3
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:55) time and resource management my friend... just saying...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (11:56) it is dashboarding RALO participation
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:56) with a strong team we can move forward especially the fact the Co-chairs are busy with strategies and implementation
Yrjö Länsipuro: (11:56) I'd like to volunteer as a member of the Issue #2 group. In EURALO, we have some experience from trying to engage ALS's into policy work
sergio salinas porto 2: (11:56) Im dtrope
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:57) that's why issue 13 becomes a strong element of O&E
sergio salinas porto 2: (11:57) I can also contribute in group 13
Alberto Soto: (11:57) No
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:58) and already lots of work is being done towards this with the stakeholder workshop in Love, this is a long stride
Ricardo Holmquist: (11:59) @Daniel :workshop in Love <- thats a good workshop
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (11:59) sorry typo meant Kobe
Liz Orembo: (11:59) Issue 2 speaks of issues of governance and channels of members participation. Would be glad to be part of the team.
Nadira Al-Araj: (12:00) still waiting to kick off the work at the Metrics WG
Ricardo Holmquist: (12:01) @Nadira: you mean the ones for ATLAS III?, this one is different
Nadira Al-Araj: (12:02) yes I know it is different
Ricardo Holmquist: (12:02) good
Sarah Kiden: (12:03) I would like to join issue 16
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (12:03) they May not wish to continue perhaps
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (12:03) I will check
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (12:03) https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Metrics
Heidi Ullrich: (12:03) It is Cheryl as Chair of Metrics WG
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (12:03) LOL
Alberto Soto: (12:03) Me Maureen
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (12:04) hahhahahhaahhah
Alberto Soto: (12:04) In Metrics
Glenn McKnight: (12:05) Issue 13 on RALO local events. In NARALO we did in the fall of 2018 ICANN Readouts in Ottawa, NY, San Francisco and Washington. this were either inperson or/and remote events. The extra funds for Discretionary funds will enable more of this
Glenn McKnight: (12:06) Looking at the link it has assigned staff for this issue
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (12:06) Just remember the costs of interpretation
Glenn McKnight: (12:06) Not yet started. Heidi Ullrich to lead with support from Evin Erdogdu and Silvia Vivanco.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (12:06) so three needing it is a good bases
Glenn McKnight: (12:06) Added comments on Issue 13
Glenn McKnight: (12:06) page
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (12:06) Glenn there is no way you are surviving issue #13
Sarah Kiden: (12:06) Please add me as well to Issue 16
Glenn McKnight: (12:07) ?
Glenn McKnight: (12:07) surviving?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (12:07) ALberto we will note that in the call for refresh of the Metrics WH
Heidi Ullrich: (12:07) @Sarah, great!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (12:07) WG
Heidi Ullrich: (12:07) To the Metrics WG?
Glenn McKnight: (12:07) bye all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@clo3): (12:07) BYe
Ricardo Holmquist: (12:07) Bye everyone, have a nice day
Heidi Ullrich: (12:07) thanks!
Alberto Soto: (12:07) Thanks , bye bye!!
John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO): (12:07) bye
Lianna Galstyan: (12:07) thanks, bye
Alfredo Calderon: (12:07) bye
Amrita Choudhury: (12:07) thanks
Sarah Kiden: (12:07) Thank you everyone!
Nadira Al-Araj: (12:07) thank you bye
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (12:07) bye
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