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Some ALAC members had submitted suggested changes to the Bylaws amendments to Article XI, Section 2.4.a as proposed by WT A.  Olivier read out these suggested changes from ALAC members (see These suggested changes can be found at https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/WT+A%27s+Proposed+ICANN+Bylaw+Changes+for+ALAC+Approval).  Olivier read each of the suggested changes aloud to the group.

Samantha: The ICANN Bylaws are maintained by the Legal Department. And I will need to take the changes suggested here back to the department.  Here and now, I can not comment generally and on behalf of myself, however.  Let me explain to the ALAC, as I explained to WT A, that the purpose of the preamble that we've written is to quickly summarize the role of the ALAC without making someone read through every specific point.

OCL: Jean-Jacques has proposed to replace sentences 1 and 3 with the following:  "The ALAC, as the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users, has a responsibility in enhancing ICANN's accountability mechanisms, as called for by the Affirmation of Commitments. It also coordinates some of ICANN's outreach to individual Internet users."

Alan:  The point that our community includes registrants is not obvious to everyone, hence my suggested change in the commnets.

Evan: I am not all for this amendement. Registrants is too narrow, end user is much wider community.

Samantha: As we review the comments, we will turn to the final report of the WG. There is a lack of continuity in the WG report with regards to the use of the user concept.
Alan: We do not change At-Large's areas, they remained the same. If we do not make it explicit we will have to fight battles which will become a waste of time. It is not in the report because it was considered a given to the people who wrote it. This is not true for everybody.

Marc: I don't think the fact that it is not consistent with the Bylaws should stop us from doing what is right.

Evan: There are issues where we clash with the interests of registrants, such as Whois.

Samantha: Will there be a proposal with specific language sent to the General Counsel's office? We need the document by next week to include it in the SFO meeting agenda for the Board.

CLO: WT A sent it to the ALAC, it is now up to the ALAC to make a decision. We can either follow Alan or run a vote.

Evan moved that the ALAC approve the suggestions from WT A with Jean-Jacques' amendment and propose it the ICANN's General Counsel Office. Jean-Jacques seconded the motion.

Olivier's suggested change is to replace

"The ALAC considers and provides advice on all aspects of work within ICANN" with "The ALAC considers and provides advice on all aspects of activity within ICANN." 

Olivier explained in the comments:  My reason for this suggestion is that the ALAC is also able to provide advice on matters not directly tagged as work, such as, but not limited to the location of a meeting, personnel changes, opening/closing of ICANN offices, etc.  The text it replaces used to mention: "provide advice on the activities of ICANN" and this was wide-ranging.  I am aware that the rest of the "new" sentence is: "as well as the many other issues for which community input and advice is sought."  and I gather that this was included to expand the first part which restricted its input to "work". However, this also constrains the ALAC's mission.
The ALAC is able to comment on issues for which community input and advice is *NOT* sought too.

The ALAC decided to accept Olivier's suggested change.

Jean-Jacques's suggested change is to replace sentences 1 and 3 with the following:  "The ALAC, as the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users, has a responsibility to enhance in enhancing ICANN's accountability mechanisms, as called for in by the Affirmation of Commitments.   It also coordinates some of ICANN's outreach to individual Internet users.  The ALAC considers and provides advice on all aspects of activity within ICANN, including policies created through ICANN's Supporting Organizations, as well as the many other issues for which community input and advice are sought.  
 
The specific elements of how ALAC fulfills this mandate are set forth below."  The rationale is to use already standardized language and to add the important element of the AoC to the text.

The ALAC decided to accepted Jean-Jacques's change.

Olivier, buidling on Jean-Jacques's above change, further suggested on the list the following:  "At-Large (ALSes, RALOs, and the ALAC), as the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users, has a responsibility to enhance ICANN's accountability mechanisms, as called for by the Affirmation of Commitments. It also coordinates some of ICANN's outreach to individual Internet users."

The ALAC rejected this change suggested by Olivier.

Alan:  The point that our community includes registrants is not obvious to everyone, hence my suggested change in the commnets.  Therefore, I have suggested (in the comments) the following addition after the first sentence of XI.2.4.a:  "Individual Internet users may include, but are not limited to, domain name registrants in both gTLDs and ccTLDs."  This change would not change who At-Large includes.  However, if we do not make the inclusion of registrants explicit here, we will have to fight battles later, which will waste time.

Evan: The term "end user" already includes everyone.  I am not in favor of this change, because "registrant" is too narrow a term.  

Samantha: As we review these suggested comments, we shold turn to the ALAC Review WG Final Report.  If the wording is in there, it goes a long way in supporting the suggested change.

Alan:  It is not in the report because it was considered a given to the people who wrote it. This is not true for everybody.

Marc: I don't think the fact that something is not consistent with the Bylaws or in the Final Report should stop us from doing what is right.

The ALAC decided to reject Alan's change.

Evan moved that the ALAC approve (a) WT A's revision of Bylaws XI.2.4.a., with Olivier's first change and Jean-Jacques's change incorporated (but not with Olivier's second change or Alan's change incorporated) and (b) WT A's revision, as proposed, to XI.2.4.j. -- and propose propose both to the ICANN's General Counsel's Office.  Jean-Jacques seconded the motion.

The wording of XI.2.4.a,, as it was approved by the ALAC, follows:

The ALAC, as the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users, has a responsibility to enhance ICANN's accountability mechanisms, as called for in the Affirmation of Commitments.  It also coordinates some of ICANN's outreach to individual Internet users.  The ALAC considers and provides advice on all aspects of activity within ICANN, including policies created through ICANN's Supporting Organizations, as well as the many other issues for which community input and advice are sought.  
 
The specific elements of how ALAC fulfills this mandate are set forth below.

The wording of XI.2.4.j., as it was proposed by WT A and approved by the ALAC, follows:

The ALAC is also responsible, working in conjunction with the RALOs, for coordinating the following activities:

7. Participating in the ICANN policy development processes and providing input and advice that accurately reflects the views of individual Internet users;

In agreement:
TBJ, SHL, SH, CLO, MR, GS, EL, EC, OCL, JJS

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