Participants: Alejandra Reynoso, Joke Braeken, Eduardo Santoyo, David McAuley, Katrina Sataki, Ben Fuller, Lesley Cowley, MirjanaTasic, Dejan Djukic, Stephen Deerhake,
Staff: Bart Boswinkel, Kim Carlson
Recording
Action Items
Agenda:
- Status Quo: discussion on the current documents
- Next steps: ccNSO Council Meetings; ccNSO Roles and Responsibilities
- Tech Day – what to do?
- AOB
Notes:
Discussions:
Agenda:
1. Welcome and roll-call
2. Wiki-space
3. Status Quo: discussion on the aforementioned documents
4. Next steps: ccNSO Council Meetings; ccNSO Roles and Responsibilities, Tech Day - What to do?
5. Work team updates - including discussion open issues
6. AOB
7. Next Meeting (21 December ?)
Action items
1. Chair of GRC at time of submission of guideline on ccNSO Meetings:
Include in a note to Council at submission on need to review the guideline in light of changed meeting structure, Council to decide, observation by WG
2. ccNSO Statement Guideline
Open questions
Action previous Bart: To look at comments
3. Action Stephen: look at ccNSO Collaboration Groups Guidelines, simplify where possible
4. Action Margarita: look at Triage committee charter (Bart to ask her)
5. Action Team members Roles and responsibilities: look at identification and allocation of tasks
Welcome and Roll Call
No Apologies received
Wiki Space
Space for action items
Document by topic
Difficult to find reasonable structure:
- Administrative activities of ccNSO
- Meetings: include all aspects of meetings of ccNSO (not to be confused with meetings of GRC!)
- Members meeting
- Council meeting
- Program WG
- Tech Day
- Officers and Appointees
- Elections, Appointments
- Operational Activities
- Working groups
- Statement and positions
Discussion current documents /Guidelines
Guideline ccNSO Meetings: (latest version in wiki)
Lesley: Signal here potential change ICANN meeting might change.
Katrina: Either add to current guideline or ask Program WG to update when need is clear
Alternative: Include a note when review warranted.
Include in a note to Council at submission, Council to decide, observation by WG
Program/Programme WG
Katrina: David and group to look into language
Program WG <- > Programme WG
Maintain Programme (UK English, as preferred spelling)
ccNSO Statement Guideline
Open questions
Action previous Bart: To look at comments
All comments are taken into consideration:
'taking into consideration' does not mean incorporating the comments"
ccNSO Collaboration Groups
Feed-back from Group
Volunteers for closer look at document? Stephen Deerhake
Translate into English
Action Stephen: look at ccNSO Collaboration Groups Guidelines, simplify where possible
Charter Triage Committee
Action Margarita: look at Triage committee (Bart to ask her)
ccNSO Council meetings
Start work
ccNSO Roles and responsibilities
Pending for ccNSO Roles and Responsibilities
Comments on identifying and allocating tasks version 4
Open issue: how to cover people who are not performing (mechanism included in WG guideline)
Suggestion/for discussion: include text in this Guideline?
Currently Councilor’s behaviour is addressable through attendance.
Address it somewhere, ccNSO Members ACCOUNTABILITY
Need for separate, coherent Guideline on Accountability (members. WG members and
Councilors. Currently part WG members included in WG Guideline.
Tech Day
Suggestion to include and consult with Tech WG, before making any changes
Should there be a Guideline for Tech Day?
AOB
No comments
Next call:
21 December, noon UTC
Chat Transcript:
Alejandra Reynoso:Good morning
Kimberly Carlson:Good morning
EDUARDO SANTOYO:Morning
Alejandra Reynoso:6am :)
Alejandra Reynoso:Hi!
Joke Braeken:Hi Katrina :)
David McAuley:Good morning
Joke Braeken:13:00h in Brussels
David McAuley:7am here
David McAuley:in DC area
Mirjana Tasic .rs:Hello
Lesley:Helo everyone
Lesley:or hello even!
Ben Fuller:Hi everyon e, will keep my mic muted because its raining here and the noise on the roof is very loud.
Stephen Deerhake:Sprry I'm late.
Stephen Deerhake:Still dark here.
Lesley:Agree - review in advance of the 3 years normal review
Lesley:Agree with Katrina
EDUARDO SANTOYO:+1
Lesley:US english or UK English
Lesley:UK Engliah is 'programme'
David McAuley:agreed - programme
David McAuley:nice word
Ben Fuller:Me too
Ben Fuller:Yes, I will look at it
Ben Fuller:Sorry we are getting lots of lightening strikes, but I can follow the audio
Ben Fuller:Katrina, plese remind me which document you want me to look at.
Katrina Sataki:- Charter: ccNSO Meetings Program WG – ready for the final round of comments (https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56148764)
Ben Fuller:OK will explain
Stephen Deerhake:Spell it programme however, Ben :-)
Ben Fuller:That final sentence in 3.6 looks OK to me
David McAuley:Me too
Lesley:'taking into consideration' does not mean incorporating the comments
Stephen Deerhake:No problem with 3.6 either.
Katrina Sataki:yes, that's what I thought too, Lesley
David McAuley:fully agree with Bart
David McAuley:consider includes the notion of rejection as well as acceptance
Stephen Deerhake:+1 for Lesley's interpretation. That's what it means to me as well.
David McAuley:I read it last night and frankly it seemed fine
Stephen Deerhake:I can take it on...
David McAuley:i will volunteer
David McAuley:Thanks Stephen
Stephen Deerhake:Trannslate it into English.
David McAuley:Good point - the committees doc has some language on non-productive participants as I recall
David McAuley:para 5.1 of collaboration groups addresses this issue
David McAuley:+1 @ Lesley for one overarching place to address non-performance
Stephen Deerhake:I agree with Lesley --have a separate policy document that then gets referenced.
Ben Fuller:Good idea Lesley
Ben Fuller:Are there any ICANN bylaws about accountability and performance we can refer to?
David McAuley:work in progress
David McAuley:Two days - one for workstream one, another for workstream two
Mirjana Tasic .rs:I am supporting Lesley's proposal how to cope with accountability
Stephen Deerhake:I would say it's not broken; not sure what we need to tweak.
David McAuley:Are there surveys from recent tech days that might help us
Stephen Deerhake:Can We carry that question over to the next meeting so I can consult with Eberhard and the Tech WG ? I'd get on audio but I have no voice today.
Ben Fuller:It mightbe a good idea to include the TWG in this discussion
David McAuley:Agreed - Dr Lisse appears to be quite involved - would be good to check with him
David McAuley:Good idea Stephen
Lesley:Tech day is still 'owned' by the ccNSO, so I think it should be included
Stephen Deerhake:I am. Lucky for the group!
EDUARDO SANTOYO:agree with Lesley
Ben Fuller:Lesley makes a good point, there may be other initiavies the fall under the ccNSO but link to other SOs
David McAuley:next call - are we on 2 or 3 week wsched
David McAuley:ok sounds fine
Lesley:21st fine with me
Joke Braeken:for me too
EDUARDO SANTOYO:ok
Stephen Deerhake:OK.
Alejandra Reynoso:ok
Dejan Djukic:sounds ok
Ben Fuller:OK
EDUARDO SANTOYO:have a good week
David McAuley:Thank you Katrina and Bart and Kim and all
Stephen Deerhake:Thanks all.
Alejandra Reynoso:Thank you! :)
Kimberly Carlson:Thank you everyone
Mirjana Tasic .rs:Bye
David McAuley:Bye all
Joke Braeken:Thank you :) have a nice day
EDUARDO SANTOYO:bye
Lesley:Bye
Alejandra Reynoso:Bye
Katrina Sataki:thank you, bye!
Dejan Djukic:bye
