Members:   Katrina Sataki, Stephen Deerhake, Mirjana Tasic, Sean Copeland, Alyssa Moore, Svitlana Tkachenko

Staff:   Bart Boswinkel, Kimberly Carlson

Apologies:  David McAuley (late)


  1. Welcome and roll call
  2. Special IFR: GNSO Support Staff document/email
  3. Guideline: Selection and appointment of ccNSO representative on the Nominating Committee
  4. Update – Bylaw repository
  5. AOB
  6. Closure

Recording:  Zoom replay


Chat transcript:

06:01:46 From Kimberly Carlson : Welcome to today’s GRC teleconference on 12 August at 12:00 UTC. In the interest of time, attendance will be taken based on who is in Zoom. Apologies received from: David McAuley. As a reminder, calls are recorded and recordings published on the public wiki ( Please also remember to mute your phones and microphones when not speaking to avoid background noise. Thank you

06:02:18 From joke.braeken : Hello everyone,
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06:04:30 From Kimberly Carlson : REDLINE VERSION: [] (permission set to view)
06:07:41 From Stephen Deerhake : Agree with Bart.
06:11:12 From David McAuley (Verisign) : sorry to be late
06:11:30 From Kimberly Carlson : Welcome David
06:12:33 From David McAuley (Verisign) : Thanks Kim -
06:15:57 From David McAuley (Verisign) : I think Bart made good points
06:16:12 From David McAuley (Verisign) : but not sure about CSC CHair as an observer - sounds right
06:16:27 From Stephen Deerhake : Would CSC Chair not be conflicted?
06:16:52 From David McAuley (Verisign) : good point Stephen that could be depending on circumstances
06:19:18 From sveta : Hello! I’m sorry for being late.
06:21:22 From David McAuley (Verisign) : "If they jointly decide not to recommend" is not quite right - it just takes one to not do it
06:22:48 From David McAuley (Verisign) : I hope we can keep from major revision unless we feel such a revision is absolutely needed
06:23:28 From David McAuley (Verisign) : Good point Katrina, we need a clear map for folks in future
06:24:02 From Alyssa Moore : To me, the bylaw reads as though: GNSO Council makes a request. ccNSO makes a request. If both do it, game one. IF not, game off. Is this what "joint" means?
06:24:05 From David McAuley (Verisign) : ok with table
06:24:10 From Alyssa Moore : Table flow looks fine to me.
06:24:20 From Mirjana Tasic : OK for me
06:24:24 From Stephen Deerhake : Table is very helpful.
06:24:39 From sveta : table is good and helpful
06:25:28 From David McAuley (Verisign) : That sounds good to me - what Bart sugests is a good final check
06:27:36 From David McAuley (Verisign) : I am unable to talk on phone today - my granddaughter (almost 1 year old) is trying to get my attention as well
06:28:38 From David McAuley (Verisign) : That might depend on circumstances if community anticipates a SIFR
06:28:42 From bart.boswinkel : That would be a clean close of the SIFR
06:29:36 From Stephen Deerhake : If both ccNSO and GNSO agree to do nothing, do we need to issue a statement?
06:29:55 From Stephen Deerhake : If one wants to move forward and one does not, then I can see issuing a statement.
06:30:08 From David McAuley (Verisign) : clean close might be a good thing rather than leave things hanging
06:31:55 From Alyssa Moore : i think if the contemplation of an SIFR gets that far, the Councils have a responsibility to close it off with a statement not to initatite the SIFR
06:44:57 From David McAuley (Verisign) : Sorry i cannot speak - one question - what do we do if only one candidiate and that candidate is not viewed as acceptable and not selected - do we go out an recruit?
06:45:50 From David McAuley (Verisign) : agreed Katrina
06:46:09 From Stephen Deerhake : I agree with Katrina. we need to restart the process.
06:46:17 From bart.boswinkel : Needs to be included
06:46:21 From David McAuley (Verisign) : Thanks Bart for following a smooth working experience
06:47:32 From David McAuley (Verisign) : good point Katrina, like board memnbers in that respect - delegate sounds better
06:47:57 From bart.boswinkel : or appointee
06:48:11 From Stephen Deerhake : What is the bylaw language?
06:48:54 From Stephen Deerhake : So the terminology is delegate...
06:49:02 From David McAuley (Verisign) : agreed
06:49:17 From Stephen Deerhake : (I don't have the bylaws with me on holiday... ;-) )
06:49:33 From Stephen Deerhake : I know... ;-)
06:49:38 From Alyssa Moore : hahaha
06:52:13 From David McAuley (Verisign) : a briefing makes sense
06:52:52 From David McAuley (Verisign) : maybe candidates (if more than one) could be interviewed collectively to a subset of Council - like a presentation
06:56:11 From David McAuley (Verisign) : OK< thanks Katrina, makes sense
06:56:31 From Alyssa Moore : Just out of curiosity - do any of the other SOs/ACs do that? The interviews?
06:58:02 From Stephen Deerhake : Alyssa, I am not aware of any other SO/AC doing interviews.
06:58:28 From David McAuley (Verisign) : nor am i
06:58:59 From Mirjana Tasic : Sorry, I have to leave for another call
07:01:52 From David McAuley (Verisign) : Sorry about that - not sure why/how I noticed that - I think during GNSO Drafting team
07:02:23 From Katrina : no need to be sorry, David :)
07:02:29 From Katrina : but do not do that again ;)
07:02:51 From David McAuley (Verisign) : ;-) - these SCWG should be rare indeed
07:02:59 From Stephen Deerhake : We have a lot of Fundamental Bylaw changes in front of us... This is problematic ble.ut unavoidab
07:03:20 From Stephen Deerhake : Especially from an ECA standpoint...
07:03:30 From Alyssa Moore : puttin the EC to the test!
07:03:58 From David McAuley (Verisign) : none here
07:03:59 From Stephen Deerhake : No AOB from me...
07:05:42 From David McAuley (Verisign) : Sept 9 sounds good
07:05:55 From David McAuley (Verisign) : 2d is holiday here in usa I hink
07:06:00 From David McAuley (Verisign) : think
07:07:02 From David McAuley (Verisign) : thanks all - and my granddaughter thanks you
07:07:30 From David McAuley (Verisign) : welcome Alyssa
07:07:30 From Kimberly Carlson : Thanks all, bye (happy birthday to your grand daughter, David)
07:07:33 From Stephen Deerhake : Bye all!
07:07:37 From bart.boswinkel : Bye all
07:07:38 From David McAuley (Verisign) : thanks Kim
07:07:40 From Sean Copeland : Bye
07:07:48 From sveta : thanks

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