Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the ALAC ExCom meeting on Wednesday 23 May 2012
  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/IID_AQ
  Gisella Gruber-White:AI's from ExCom 07 May: https://community.icann.org/x/6cHbAQ
  Heidi Ullrich:Action Items from 7 May ExCom: https://community.icann.org/display/alacexcomm/ALAC+ExCom+07.05.12+Action+Items
  Evan Leibovitch:so we have as many staff as excom people here?
  Heidi Ullrich:AIs from 22 May ALAC Meeting: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+22-05-2012+Action+Items+EN
  Carlton Samuels:I'm on now.  Sometimes lighting a fire directly helps!
  Heidi Ullrich:@Evan - pretty good ExCom/staff support ratio ;)
  Heidi Ullrich:Will do, Olivier!
  Heidi Ullrich:The ALAC agenda is fixed. I'll do that right now on the ExCom agenda.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:hand up
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Confluence is down again
  Heidi Ullrich:I'm checking with IT on when it may be back up again.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:its one of those we are up against a bylaw based deadline so Grrrr this time BUT future planning HAS to be smarter (not like it should have snuck up on ICANN because of these known date milestones
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:PPPPPP (prior planning prevents piss poor performance)  SIGH
  Carlton Samuels:@CLO: +1. This is exactly the approach I'm proposing for our response
  Carlton Samuels:@OCL: +1: Include the 'double down' clause!
  Evan Leibovitch:Even a dog wouldn't have this breakfast
  Evan Leibovitch:Must say, this discussion is not somthing that I find too useful. What's the point of asking for more days to comment if they just ignore us anyway? Just give us more chance to be exasperated and waste more volunteer time.
  Evan Leibovitch:To me, the signals are not mixed. The signals continue to be "go away" and appear quite clear :-P
  Evan Leibovitch:Whwther out of malice, incompetence or misplaced priorities the result is the same.
  Evan Leibovitch:+1 Alan. If anything he's being too reserved.
  Carlton Samuels:@CLO: You just said the FIRST piece of what I had to say
  Matt Ashtiani:http://www.atlarge.icann.org/correspondence
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:my line dropped using AC at this stage
  Heidi Ullrich:http://www.atlarge.icann.org/correspondence
  Gisella Gruber-White:Cheryl - we are dialling back
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:back
  Evan Leibovitch:@Alan: if/when the IOC/RedCross DT comes back to life, I'd like to be added to it
  Alan Greenberg:@EVan, send a note to Glen asking to be put on the group. Next meeting is 30th at 2 pm
  Evan Leibovitch:@Olivier. the CCCT issue is itself maybe not needing of mention, but we want to talk to the GAC related to the definition of consumer and consumer issues within ICANN.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:This is what we will discuss with the GAC in Prague
  Evan Leibovitch:+1
  Evan Leibovitch:Go Alan!!
  Carlton Samuels:@Evan: +1; this is my sense of it!
  Evan Leibovitch:Bastard child of JAS
  Evan Leibovitch:Cheryl, are you still opposing stuff? you've had a "minus" next to your name for a while.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:she's away with the minus
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:step away from her computer
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:disagreee is a red cross
  Heidi Ullrich:    Follow- up with regard to the effort initiated at the last meeting to create a joint GAC/ALAC effort on conflict of interest.     Is there work the ALAC and GAC can do together to study the demand from -- and impact on -- Internet users from the gTLD program launch.
  Carlton Samuels:@CLO: I will ALWAYS go for jaw-jaw of any group rather than be silent.  It fits my political mantra, ala LBJ.
  Evan Leibovitch:ICANN's approach to transparency is a tdade secret :-)
  Evan Leibovitch:trade
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr::-) :-) :-)
  Carlton Samuels:@Evan: lol +1
  Evan Leibovitch:Does the map in the At-Large brochure now have Sri Lanka in North America?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:???
  Heidi Ullrich:Apologies, I need to step away briefly
  Evan Leibovitch:There is an ongoing conversation going on between Garth and Compliance which is welcome and, frankly, unprecedented.
  Heidi Ullrich:back, apologies
  Evan Leibovitch:Maguay is being uncharacteristically candid in indicating where infractions have no resulted in penalty.
  Evan Leibovitch:(Uncharacteristic for the compliance dept, that is)
  Carlton Samuels:@CLO: +1, we really don't know.  And to my mind, subscription to at least the Announce list tells me more about real interest than even showing for a teleconference.
  Carlton Samuels:You cannot engage in knowledge work without an effort to inform yourself systematically by READING!
  Heidi Ullrich:There are no comments on the Compliance quesation wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Compliance+Questions+for+Prague+Workspace
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:sorry phone hand set battery ran out back in AC only
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:NP picked it up on the headset
  Matt Ashtiani:At-Large RALO Signing Ceremonies Workspace
  Matt Ashtiani:https://community.icann.org/x/RcrbAQ
  Carlton Samuels:I will have to leave in 6 mins
  Carlton Samuels:I have to leave folks.   Thanks for sharing
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks Carlton
  Heidi Ullrich:That is not correct, Evan
  Heidi Ullrich:The plans for the At-Large selected Board Director went out for PC.
  Heidi Ullrich:Bylaw changes (inlcuding those made by WTA) went out for PC.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I think what Evan now outlines is in keeping with what I heard ALAC agree to/discuss briefly
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes. agree
  Silvia Vivanco:CLO: Could you please state the AI as you would like it to be recorded
  Heidi Ullrich:sorry I'm on mute
  Heidi Ullrich:we have the webinar on the 14th
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that Staff /Sylvia contact the APRALO (?? other RALOs??) put this topic on their next /Prague meetings
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that was for Sylvia
  Silvia Vivanco:CLO "Silvia" with "i" so I am distinguished from the LACRALO Leader
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Sorry it was not deliberatenI meant no offence

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