Zoom chat: 2021-09-13 NARALO Teleconference

13:50:25 From Alain Durand to Everyone:
Hello
13:55:49 From Silvia Vivanco. ICANN org to Everyone:
Hello all
13:55:55 From Silvia Vivanco. ICANN org to Everyone:
Warm welcome
13:55:58 From Silvia Vivanco. ICANN org to Everyone:
Happy Monday
13:58:36 From David Mackey to Everyone:
I’m not an old guy :-o
13:58:47 From David Mackey to Everyone:
… in my mind
13:59:22 From Bill Jouris to Everyone:
If I don't think about it (and don't get into one of these discussions) I feel like I'm about half my actual age.
14:02:59 From Silvia Vivanco. ICANN org to Everyone:
Warm welcome to our colleagues
14:03:19 From Silvia Vivanco. ICANN org to Everyone:
Naela , Steve and our presenter today Alain Durand
14:03:27 From David Mackey to Everyone:
Congratulations Judith!!
14:03:45 From David Mackey to Everyone:
By the way, thank you Glenn and Eduardo for the Steve Crocker presentation earlier today. It was real a gem.
14:06:45 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
your welcome David. Here is the link for everyone to Dr. Crockers presentation today
14:07:14 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHeYfhcpf4QT8YLD1A_BTmZhiPUD11S0u
14:07:34 From David Mackey to Everyone:
thanks for the link Glenn
14:09:08 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
All our recordings for VSIG are available.
14:13:04 From León Felipe Sánchez Ambía to Everyone:
Hello everyone!
14:13:14 From León Felipe Sánchez Ambía to Everyone:
My apologies for lateness
14:13:17 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Welcome Leon!
14:13:37 From León Felipe Sánchez Ambía to Everyone:
Thanks Michelle :-)
14:20:57 From Alfredo Calderon (ICANN72 Mentor) to Everyone:
https://www.huawei.com/en/technology-insights/industry-insights/innovation/new-ip
14:20:58 From Alfredo Calderon (ICANN72 Mentor) to Everyone:
A Brief Introduction about New IP Research Initiative
The Next-generation Network and Protocol System for Digital Networked Industry and Society

This article outlines the reasoning behind the New IP initiative, addressing the motivation (why) of the work, the definition and work areas of investigation (what) as well as the current progress (how). This is to clarify misunderstandings of what New IP entails as well as outline for our future partners on why and how to engage with us on this endeavor.
14:23:05 From David Mackey to Everyone:
Has anyone analyzed New IP with respect to the goals of net neutrality?
14:23:21 From Alfredo Calderon (ICANN72 Mentor) to Everyone:
https://www.internetsociety.org/resources/doc/2020/discussion-paper-an-analysis-of-the-new-ip-proposal-to-the-itu-t/
14:23:42 From Alfredo Calderon (ICANN72 Mentor) to Everyone:
Discussion Paper: An analysis of the “New IP” proposal to the ITU-T
14:27:33 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
Thanks Alfredo for adding these links
14:27:42 From David Mackey to Everyone:
At first glance, “ManyNets” may sidestep the goals of net neutrality, but it would be nice to more complete investigation of the question of net neutrality with the New IP proposals
14:29:06 From David Mackey to Everyone:
Nobody will pay for it? Hmmm, that’s not how the Internet works today.
14:30:39 From Silvia Vivanco. ICANN org to Everyone:
For more information, see the Paper "New IP" : https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/octo-017-27oct20-en.pdf
14:31:07 From Silvia Vivanco. ICANN org to Everyone:
Linked to today's agenda under Supporting material
14:32:04 From David Mackey to Everyone:
Highly controlled networks will likely remove freedom of individual users with a low cost computer
14:32:51 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone:
China is the only one promoting this
14:33:02 From David Mackey to Everyone:
That makes sense Judith. :-)
14:33:49 From Alfredo Calderon (ICANN72 Mentor) to Everyone:
@David, it would be a big nightmare for ‘end-users’ when trying to access services or resources.
14:33:57 From Bill Jouris to Everyone:
"Too old" is a silly argument. The question is whether it works or not. And whether there is something else which will be not just new but actually better.
14:34:47 From David Mackey to Everyone:
@Alfredo understood. I’ve worked with both circuit switched networks and packet networks
14:35:27 From David Mackey to Everyone:
+1 Bill — “whether there is something else which will be not just new but actually better”
14:36:51 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone:
+1 Bill
14:39:16 From David Mackey to Everyone:
“Is One world, One Internet” still relevant? That’s a dangerous statement. ICANN should stay away from that statement.
14:41:11 From David Mackey to Everyone:
It’s not a problem for manufactures or end users. It’s only a problem for some regimes.
14:42:22 From David Mackey to Everyone:
It’s hard to listen to this presentation because it mixes technology with geo-political goals which are not related :-(
14:44:45 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
Welcome Denise, I mentioned you at the beginning of the session about the Social Media promotion for ICANN 72
14:45:02 From David Mackey to Everyone:
I respectfully disagree.
14:47:20 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone:
@david you might want to Elizabeth Oluoch of isoc about those issues
14:48:08 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Please be so kind as to complete the short Webinar Survey following today’s meeting, located below, to help us evaluate the service provided. (An email will be sent following today’s meeting as well)

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14:53:04 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
@Michelle I like to see the survey requesting actual suggestions of future topics and the associated speakers
14:53:40 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
@Glenn - this is noted, thank you for this suggestion
14:53:40 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
@david is showing his NORTEL chops:)
14:53:54 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
Northern Telecom
14:54:48 From David Mackey to Everyone:
+1 Alain
14:55:19 From David Mackey to Everyone:
old hand
14:55:44 From León Felipe Sánchez Ambía to Everyone:
Very good session
14:55:45 From David Mackey to Everyone:
Thank you for the presentation Alain
14:55:52 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
Thanks Alain
14:55:55 From Alfredo Calderon (ICANN72 Mentor) to Everyone:
Very informative and still a long ways to go…
14:55:56 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone: