Terri Agnew:Welcome to the NARALO Rules of Procedures Working Committee Call on Tuesday, 29 November 2016 at 22:30 UTC

  Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_spXDAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=YO4sdjJUBFx9h58uUhfm2X8mnU75akeEMssu71dsgM0&e=

  Terri Agnew:to join on the telephone use Adigo Code: 3535

  Glenn McKnight:Doc is sent

  Glenn McKnight:Regrets from  Seth Reiss and  Judith Hellerstein

  Glenn McKnight:Louis Houle no response

  Alan Greenberg:I will be at the Westin as well.

  seth reiss:No regets from me this time

  Glenn McKnight:yes  we got  it Seth

  Alan Greenberg:I'm on bridge as well now.

  Silvia Vivanco:Hello all

  Glenn McKnight:hi  silvia

  Silvia Vivanco:The Rules of procedures are an attachment of the original MOU

  seth reiss:Logically, rules of proceedure should be consistent with the MOU in that the MOU is the constitutional document in regard to which the internal rules must conform

  Silvia Vivanco:then the ROPs change in 2010..no changes to MOU

  Silvia Vivanco:MOU in pdf:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_2264679_North-2520American-2520Region-25202007-2520RALO.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1349478202000-26api-3Dv2&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=DYzcL0OJlS2z4l-l3wPxNjrGVva6xxAwR5YZjDblVxU&e=

  Silvia Vivanco:Welcome John More

  Silvia Vivanco:@ all, the documents referenced in this discussion are hyperlinked to the Agenda of today's call

  seth reiss:"code of conduct"

  Glenn McKnight:I have  the link in the above document

  seth reiss:I think it is hard to say what was intended because it all happened in a few hours at a meeting in Puerto Rico, it was sort of pushed through quickly because of time and cirumstances

  Terri Agnew:APRALO ROPs – 2014: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_D4ki&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=90o1VZsKw8EObEYgn2vrTfsst3CswFCp4ZP3c6VgiMg&e=

  Glenn McKnight:33 articles for  APRALO - More detailed on the   decertification  procedures

  Terri Agnew:AFRALO ROPs – 2009: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_mYEi&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=nQD5fQbAo4DYyGQNk_zB54EC19oBOH4uOypNCUsgtpg&e=

  Terri Agnew:Operating Principles Review 2014: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_M8XhAg&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=AxMcGmhlE6r8owK1NzWzVtClj05mW8YPb3jcUC1vgl0&e=

  Terri Agnew:EURALO: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_mzd-2DAg&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=3djgi96mfiGx3vUUf6rTARDAxzm_Webvp0crNoKS12o&e=

  Glenn McKnight 2:9  afralo

  Terri Agnew:Task Force on Review and revision of EURALO by-laws: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_iAZ1Aw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=3Yw-XTe0pmx5GrCfryhfWeO_WskFhGBE9I19bglPHKM&e=

  Terri Agnew: LACRALO ROPs 2007: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_cxDxAg&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=tjI94MNk-_b5KsAUolTd_iQZMb-GKfg6EP5VcYN9EGI&s=T4dMxU55hpOwXIcDCSGQ-jSIYHgKj8aO04eV8pgtZJc&e=

  Glenn McKnight:I  called in by ADIGO ,  muted mic on ADOBE

  Silvia Vivanco:Yes each RALO will have complete freedom as long as it does not contradict the MOU

  Silvia Vivanco:exacty Alan

  Glenn McKnight:its a matter of  execution

  Silvia Vivanco:there is a hierarchy legally : 1) ICANN by-Laws 2) MOU with ICANN ALAC ROs, and Ralo ROPS

  seth reiss:I have no problem with drafting rules of procedure with a view towards the MOU being modified, but I do not think you can have a rule of procedure that is inconsistent with a MOU provision that will be in place going forward

  seth reiss:I have voice but you need to turn my mic on

  Terri Agnew:Seth has audio at this time

  Silvia Vivanco:what would be needed is to check that NARALO new rules don't contradict ALAC ROPs

  Glenn McKnight:one sec  Seith

  John More:I support what Seth says.

  seth reiss:I like simple, less work and more flexibility

  Alan Greenberg:In general, all of the RALOs exceptAPRALO are at the same general level.

  seth reiss:also consistent with North America being a common law and non-napoleonic territory

  Silvia Vivanco:@ Seith correct, the legal drafting in Anglo saxon, common law countries tradition is different

  Silvia Vivanco:and Civil law countries have a different type of legal drafting

  Glenn McKnight:one sec Alan

  Glenn McKnight:skeleton

  Glenn McKnight:@silvia  can you please  add the document again

  Silvia Vivanco:your google?

  Glenn McKnight:Part Three  suggestions

  Glenn McKnight:Terry had it up

  Silvia Vivanco:sure

  John More:i fully agree that simplicityis better.

  Silvia Vivanco:Terri is managing the AC she will post

  seth reiss:but I forget a lot

  seth reiss:I will review if someone else drafts

  John More:Howabiout a draft by April and June for adoption.

  Glenn McKnight:yes

  Silvia Vivanco:Next call in January staff can send a doodle

  John More:yes.

  seth reiss:Your welcome

  seth reiss:Thanks Glenn and others

  Alfredo Calderon:Bye to all!

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