Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the ICANN Academy Working Group call on Friday 05 October 2012 at 1300 UTC
  Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/rJMoAg
  Glenn McKnight:Greetins  all g
  Glenn McKnight:Someone is shistling a tune
  Siranush Vardanyan:thank you
  Chuck Gomes:Am I correct that there is no dial-in number?
  Sandra Hoferichter:Hello all there!
  Glenn McKnight:siranush  is  things working our for you and the VIS to Canada?
  Siranush Vardanyan:hello, everyone
  Stéphane Van Gelder:Hi everyone
  Siranush Vardanyan:I don;t need dial out, as I ca hear through adobe connect space
  Siranush Vardanyan:thanks for welcoming, Gisella
  Stéphane Van Gelder:What are the dial in details Gisella please?
  Stéphane Van Gelder:If someone can provide the dial in details that would be appreciated
  Hong Xue:Can we start on time?
  Hong Xue:Yes.
  Gisella Gruber-White:Marilyn Cade has joined the Adobe Connect
  Marilyn Cade, BC Chair:Like Stephane, I need the dial in information. Can this please be sent?
  Gisella Gruber-White:I will send them in a second
  Marilyn Cade, BC Chair:thanks, to this note, or elsewhere?
  Gisella Gruber-White:Toll-free access number (US and Canada):  800 550 6865
  Gisella Gruber-White:Pass code 1638
  Gisella Gruber-White:ALl dial-in details available via the wiki agenda page
  Gisella Gruber-White:Any other country toll free numbers required?
  Marilyn Cade, BC Chair:Gisa, not all of us are wiki users from our limited hand held devices, while driving. -)
  Gisella Gruber-White:Plase remember to mute your computers if you are on the phone line AND the Adobe Connect
  Sandra Hoferichter:we can hear you
  Glenn McKnight:Please indicate the meeting times in Toronto
  Gisella Gruber-White:Academy Meeting in Toronto: Wednesday 17 October from 07:00 - 10:00
  Chuck Gomes:I will only be able to attend the first two hours
  Glenn McKnight:Thanks,  It clashes with the NARALO  Capactiy Building session,  
  Gisella Gruber-White:ICANN Schedule: http://toronto45.icann.org/node/34367
  Glenn McKnight:Thanks
  Glenn McKnight:As to the  ADVANCED  VIRTUAL  LEARNING we created the  ICANN ACADEMY  Moodle and I have provide my short ICANN informaiton videos for the modules
  Gisella Gruber-White:Avri Doria has joined the call
  Gisella Gruber-White:Please state your names
  Marilyn Cade, BC Chair: apologies, I will try to remember to state my name when I speak.
  avri:Yes, SVG, we are ICANN
  Sandra Hoferichter:I do not have the link here right now.
  Sandra Hoferichter:http://www.icann.org/en/about/financials/adopted-opplan-budget-fy13-24jun12-en.pdf
  Sandra Hoferichter:Beijing need no new budget request but South Africa
  Filiz Yilmaz:Sally has been briefed about the project.
  avri:i will be there all day friday.  good idea
  Glenn McKnight:I will be around as well
  Chuck Gomes:I can be there on Friday
  Glenn McKnight:Not a bad idea to have  a face to face meeting on Friday
  Silvia Vivanco:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Friday%2C+19+October+2012
  Rumy Spratley-Kanis 2:I am flying out on Wednesday evening - so can only attend Wednesday
  Silvia Vivanco:This is the At Large schedule for Friday
  Hong Xue:I'm flying out Friday early morning.
  Sandra Hoferichter:Let do a doodle
  Filiz Yilmaz:I will not be there on Friday. Most ICANN Staff is checking out on Friday.
  Rumy Spratley-Kanis 2:could we go back to the wednesday agenda?
  Rumy Spratley-Kanis 2:ah thank you :)
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:hence the wednesday meeting is best - agreed soe people migt be missing but it is getting very hard to have 1 time slot with absolutely everyone
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:what could happen is the same discussion to take place both on wednesday & friday
  Rumy Spratley-Kanis 2:but how can you define a learning objective without knowing the target audience?
  Filiz Yilmaz:Whay cannot it be both?
  Filiz Yilmaz:One block is capacity building, the other grooming the leaders....
  Rumy Spratley-Kanis 2:agree with Marily that they are intertwined
  Rumy Spratley-Kanis 2:but then at least an overal goal should be established
  Filiz Yilmaz:Of course there is the quesiton what is the next implementable thing should be. But the ICANN Academy concept can include all the blocks...
  Hong Xue:Learning goal or purpose of the project?
  avri:i think learning goal versus target group is a "chicken and egg" problem
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:Hong, they are talking a bout the pilot only
  avri:Tijani: aren't they talking about an overall framework as well?
  avri:i know they called these two things, one thing, but in any case, I did hear talk of a framework.
  Glenn McKnight:Each group has  different  expectations and learning outcomes.  
  Glenn McKnight:Some need ony the bare bones others need indepth knowledge
  Rumy Spratley-Kanis 2:agreed
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:we know there are more than one target groups but we neither have the money nor the resources to deal with all target groups simultaneously
  avri:But itis true, we are not yet sure whether this includes the original ALAC notion of an academy for all community participants, especially users.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:there is a huuuuge demand for capacity  building
  Glenn McKnight:Yes,  Avri  is right
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:but we need to start smewhere -- one step at a time
  Glenn McKnight:Step one is assessment of the learner needs and map the training to outcomes.  
  avri:OCL: so it is said.  and we do that by chasing our tails.
  Glenn McKnight:We should be using SMART  analysis or  Results Based Tools for this assessment
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:the leadership programme just appeared to be one which had a concrete target group, and quantifiable results -ROIs which can then get ICANN to fund the other programmes in future years
  Glenn McKnight:I think MC  is talking about he  Virtual Learning Environment
  avri:OCL: yes, but we see that leadership training is fraught with political connundrum - and may be the most difficult thing to actually agree on.
  Glenn McKnight:I  think this discussion is a slice of the politics
  Filiz Yilmaz:I have to leave now, have another meeting starting at the hour. See you in Toronto.
  Glenn McKnight:It's quite simple from an education designers point of view but this discusion is mired down
  Chuck Gomes:I think we have more than enough to keep us busy in Toronto.
  Rumy Spratley-Kanis 2:Bye Filiz, see you next week!
  Sandra Hoferichter:Thank you for joining us Filiz
  avri:Chuck: as long as we can keep from having the same conversations over and over and ove and ...
  avri:my suggestons for the role of staff: help us by dong what we ask them to do.
  Sebastien:I need to leave also. I am ask to leave the meeting room I am in. See you in Toronto
  avri:bye Sebastien
  Gisella Gruber-White: Please note heavy breathing - please mute your speakers
  Sebastien:not me :)
  avri:wht are we agreeing to?
  Sandra Hoferichter:the agenda for Toronto
  Sandra Hoferichter:1. discussion on target groups / learning goals
  avri:can someone write it in the discussion notes section?
  Silvia Vivanco:yes
  Gisella Gruber-White:@ Avri - Silvia is taking notes
  Rumy Spratley-Kanis 2:I think all participants (including staff) can have valuable input on content and process, since we all represent variuos view points and stakeholders. In that sense I find the whole "who should be involved" discussion a bit of a shame and detract from the overal goal
  Sandra Hoferichter:2. Timing Beijing or not
  Sandra Hoferichter:3. roll of staff
  avri:thanks
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:I agree with your proposal Sanra
  Glenn McKnight:We worked on the MOODLE  and  I provide at no cost the  ICANN information  Videos  
  Glenn McKnight:Thanks
  Hong Xue:I do have many questions but in case i vannot be heard again. I save them to F2F.
  avri:bye y'all.  i like being to particpate in a meeting just using Adobe.
  Silvia Vivanco:Thank you!
  Rumy Spratley-Kanis 2:thank you Sandra, see you in Toronto
  Glenn McKnight:Thanks all  byes
  Ron Sherwood:Thank you Sandra
  Adam Gosling:thankyou
  avri:bye bye Gisella
  Sandra Hoferichter:Bye!

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