Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the EURALO Monthly call on Tuesday 22 January 2013 at 1900 UTC
Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/04NZAg
Roberto Gaetano:Hi, Gisella. I see I am listed under "apologies", there might be a mistake
Siranush Vardanyan:Hello, everyone, greetings from Armenia
Roberto Gaetano:Nice echo....
Siranush Vardanyan:it was from my computer, now I have muted audio and the phone line. sorry:)
Roberto Gaetano:Siranush, what's the weather like today in Armenia?
Siranush Vardanyan:today it was about -5-6
Siranush Vardanyan:but a week ago we had - 18
Yuliya Morenets:Hello, good evening!
Adela Danciu:hi everybody!
Oksana Prykhodko:Hi, everybody!
Dick Kalkman (isoc.nl):Hi, everybody from Holland.
Heidi Ullrich:Hi Dick!. Welcome.
Silvia Vivanco:Hello everyone
Yrjö Länsipuro:Hi,. good evening!
Wolf Ludwig:good evening everybody and welcome!
Dick Kalkman (isoc.nl):Thanks Wolf
Oksana Prykhodko:Welcome, Dirk!
Heidi Ullrich:Please be sure you have muted your speakers in the Adobe Connect room.
Oksana Prykhodko:Vladimir as well)
Heidi Ullrich:A transcript of this call will be posted within 48 hours. Staff will be taking only Action Items.
Heidi Ullrich:AIs: https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+2012-12-18+Action+Items
Narine Khachatryan:Hello everybody
Heidi Ullrich:Hi, Narine!
Silvia Vivanco:https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Policy+Development+Page
Silvia Vivanco:Page with PDP WIKI above
Oksana Prykhodko:I have to ask NOT to book for me and Vladinir Ukrainian air carriers - we have now extremely unstable situation with a lot of delayed and cancelled flights(
Silvia Vivanco:Policy Page
Silvia Vivanco:above
Gisella Gruber-White:Adela - calling you back
Wolf Ludwig:@Oksana: these airline prblems you have to state at a later stage when you are contacted for travel arrangements by CT -thanks!
Gisella Gruber-White:Desiree Miloshevic has joined the call
Oksana Prykhodko:@Wolf - OK, sorry for misplacing it)
Wolf Ludwig:Welcome Des!
Wolf Ludwig:And Manuel!
Oksana Prykhodko:Desiree, are you in Kiev already?
Wolf Ludwig:@Oksana: as it looks, Desiree is not on AC just on Adigo ...
Oksana Prykhodko:@Wolf Yes, thank you, I also understood it. We have to meet tomorrow in Kiev)
Heidi Ullrich:RSSAC workspace: http://www.icann.org/en/groups/rssac
Yuliya Morenets 3:Wolf,its always a pleasure working with EuroDIG Secretariat and the whole community
Adela Danciu:forwarded already :)
Heidi Ullrich:EuroSSIG - http://www.euro-ssig.eu/
Oksana Prykhodko:We share EuroSSIG call for applications on Facebook in Russian, and it was met with large interest
Wolf Ludwig:Thanks Oksana!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I can confirm that the target was the AGM
Gisella Gruber-White:Carolin Silbernagl joined the call
Oksana Prykhodko:@Wolf It's my pleasure)
Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome Carolin!
Siranush Vardanyan:shared the info on EuroSSIG with some contacts here as well
Carolin Silbernagl:Thank you :) Feeling very welcomed!
Wolf Ludwig:Welcome Caroline for your inaugural call at EURALO!
Carolin Silbernagl:Sorry for being late, I hve been travelling today.
Oksana Prykhodko:Hi, Carolin!
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Carolin!
Adela Danciu:welcome to the club, Carolin! :)
Carolin Silbernagl:Thank you very much, Wolf! The pleasure is on my / our side!
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome to At Large Carolin!
Siranush Vardanyan:welcome to our community, Carolin
Heidi Ullrich:EURALO GA Masterplan: https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+2013+General+Assembly+Workspace
Siranush Vardanyan:individual members of EURALO as well?, meaning is there a funding for them or only for ALSs?
Gisella Gruber-White:@ Narine - we are calling you back
Oksana Prykhodko:It is great decision with Olivier, thank you, Wolf!
Narine Khachatryan:Thank you Gisella
Heidi Ullrich:I will follow up with the Slovene Consumers Association, Wolf.
Oksana Prykhodko:ISOC Bulgaria is Veni, or anybody else?
Gisella Gruber-White:Bill Drake has joined the Adobe Connect room
Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome Bill
Bill Drake:Looks like I got the timing wrong, sorry
Bill Drake:Too many calls and meetings with time zones to check
Roberto Gaetano:Oksana, I believe it is Dragoslava Greve
Sebastien:I am doing ISOC Italy now
Gisella Gruber-White:Siranush - we are calling you again
Oksana Prykhodko:@Gisella, thank you, unfortunately, I do not know her in person(
Oksana Prykhodko:I contacted Sylvia and Tatiana as individual members. Tatiana is not going to be in Lisbon, but Sylvia is interested
Siranush Vardanyan:i am back
Roberto Gaetano:Oksana, you can contact her via Veni anyway
Oksana Prykhodko:@Gaetano OK, thank you, I will
Bill Drake:if the non-response is part of a pattern then the proposal is very reasonable
Roberto Gaetano:Wolf, I will have a look at your draft before the end of the week and let you know my comments
Siranush Vardanyan:you mean each one create own ALS, or general for all individual members, Wolf?
Roberto Gaetano:@Bill, what do you mean by "pattern"?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thank you Wolf
Oksana Prykhodko:Siranush, one ALS for all individual members
Bill Drake:well Roberto, if the non-response is from an ALS that has been fairly systematically disengaged, that would be a pattern
Siranush Vardanyan:thanks, Oksana
Roberto Gaetano:thanks Bill
Yuliya Morenets:support Olivier
Siranush Vardanyan:i also would be happy to be a member of this new ALS
Bill Drake:hard to see where you are looking, Wolf...:-)
Oksana Prykhodko:Actually, I really happy for Wolf's decision to give his financial support to Olivier, but I am sure, that ALAC Chair has to have independent financing for each RALO GA
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I'd be happy to join, until ISOC England has the ability to apply as an ALS
Gisella Gruber-White:Bill - have you enabled your microphone?
Bill Drake:ok not working give me a minute
Wolf Ludwig:Are you muted or silent Bill?
Wolf Ludwig:You have the floor!
Gisella Gruber-White:please speak closer to the microphone
Gisella Gruber-White:we can't hear you well
Silvia Vivanco:We cannot hear
Yuliya Morenets:we dont hear u
Siranush Vardanyan:can't hear
Wolf Ludwig:You are hardly audible, Bill!!!
Silvia Vivanco:Now its better
Heidi Ullrich:much better now
Siranush Vardanyan:yes, that's good now
Heidi Ullrich:yes
Wolf Ludwig:But we found a solution for you to participate in Paris ;-)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Oksana: you make a very good point -- however, this is not yet institutionalised, so for me to be able to attend, I would need to be extended the place of a fully funded ALS participant
Bill Drake:representing world federalists, yes...it was an interesting hat for me to be wearing!
Oksana Prykhodko:@Olivier I think we have to raise this issue in Bejing. As far as I understand, the majority og GA go in line with ICANN meetings, so it's not very large sum
Siranush Vardanyan:but for one ALS for all individuals also will be one vote - one funding opportunity? that's not fair for all active individual members:)
Bill Drake:sure, so if Olivier, Avri, Desiree, and whomever else want to form an ALS, I'm happy to work with them on a charter
Bill Drake:so it rewards being a loner?
Avri Doria:Bill, i am a member of ISOC-FI and thus not qualified for individual membership.
Bill Drake:Ah, sorry. YOur name was mentioned
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ROberto Gaetano too!
Siranush Vardanyan:and I have also applied as a new ALS but from APRALO part, which is under due diligence now
Oksana Prykhodko:Yes, Avri, you are on the list of individual members. So, can you confirm the participation of your ALS in GA in Lisbon?
Siranush Vardanyan:probably I will not be eligible
Bill Drake:Disempowerment
Roberto Gaetano:Siranush, why in APRALO and not EURALO?
Siranush Vardanyan:because Armenia is still in APRALO
Oksana Prykhodko:Roberto, it's stupid ICANN mapping(
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Roberto: complex problem of ICANN regions still following UN list of regions wherer Armenia is delimited in Asia. Just like Turkey and even Cyprus
Roberto Gaetano:We have many issues about regions. If I am not mistaken, .AM is a member of CENTR
Siranush Vardanyan:you are right, Roberto
Bill Drake:no sorry
Siranush Vardanyan:that's why so many challenges with those regions
Siranush Vardanyan:regional devisions, mea
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:so it's not ICANN choice but UN Choice. There is an ICANN-wide WG working on Geo Regions that has been stalled at Board level for a long long time with no progress for at least 6 months so far...
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and last time I asked, I was told "the Board is busy with new gTLDs"
Bill Drake:Would there be staff support for a chartering exercise?
Bill Drake:why don't we write it in Lisbon
Siranush Vardanyan:where Armenia is suggested to be moved to EURALO region, Olivier, so hopefully the situation can change
Roberto Gaetano:OCL, I know it is an ongoing story - since the Montral meeting, actually :<(
Oksana Prykhodko:We need Armenia with us!!!!
Siranush Vardanyan::)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:LOL - yes, one of these loooooong ones like WHOIS, etc.
Siranush Vardanyan:but I also happy being a bringe between APRALO and EURALO
Yrjö Länsipuro:Even within the UN, there are several systems of dividing up the world into regions.
Heidi Ullrich:Wolf, is that an AI?
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks.
Roberto Gaetano:Yriö, there are many systems of deviding up the world, unfortunately, but this is a longer story
Roberto Gaetano:Dick has his hand up
Dick Kalkman (isoc.nl):No
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:He had his hand up but out it down a bit earlier
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:out = put
Siranush Vardanyan:he is testing the space probably :)
Dick Kalkman (isoc.nl):I love flash ;)
Oksana Prykhodko:Heidi, who can be this speaker?
Oksana Prykhodko:I mean for national event
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Yes! for Vint!!!
Heidi Ullrich:@Oksana, you could invite Fadi, Steve, or Sebastien, etc.
Roberto Gaetano:We should shoot for an European Board member
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Sébastien definitely
Carolin Silbernagl:Vint would be great!
Oksana Prykhodko:But can we invite EU representative in GAC, for example?
Oksana Prykhodko:Or from US administration?
Carolin Silbernagl:Andrea - that would be interesting.
Heidi Ullrich:Please use the Speaker's Bureau system to invite a speaker
Roberto Gaetano:Francisco da Silva could be an easy win
Siranush Vardanyan:the speaker should be from ICANN, not from other org-s
Heidi Ullrich:See: http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-17jan13-en.htm
Bill Drake:ciao
Oksana Prykhodko:I highly appreciate Sebastien - he knows, but we need extremely official governmental burecrat!
Yuliya Morenets:bye and good night
Siranush Vardanyan:bye all, have nice evening
Adela Danciu:bye everybody! good night!
Gisella Gruber-White:Thank you all
Dick Kalkman (isoc.nl):Bye all
Oksana Prykhodko:By, thank you all!
Narine Khachatryan:Good bye
Gisella Gruber-White:Have a good evening
Wolf Ludwig:Thanks and good night everybody!
Carolin Silbernagl:good bye and thanks
Narine Khachatryan:Thank you all
Heidi Ullrich:Bye@
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