Yesim Nazlar: (4/24/2019 14:02) Welcome to the ATLAS III Webinar 1 on the topic "Domain Names" taking place on Wednesday, 24 April 2019 at 12:00 UTC
Yesim Nazlar: (14:02) Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/GwJ1Bg
javie4 chandia: (14:39) buenos días
Yesim Nazlar: (14:44) Welcome all, we'll start in 15mins.
Oksana Prykhodko: (14:50) Hi everyone
Gisella Gruber: (14:51) NOTE - Adobe Connect audio is in ENGLISH only. To hear French and Spanish audio, please join the ADIGO phone bridge (you can request a dial-out to staff)
Joanna Kulesza: (14:51) Hello everyone!
Omar Shuran: (14:53) Hello everyone
javie4 chandia: (14:55) hello
Ricardo Holmquist: (14:56) if you are on the phone to mute the line is *6, to unmute *7
Ali AlMeshal: (14:56) hello
Ricardo Holmquist: (14:57) Si estan al telefono, para colocarse en mute le dan *6, para quitarlo le dan *7
Lilian Ivette De Luque: (14:57) Hi everyone
Esther Akello: (14:58) hi everyone
Narine Khachatryan: (14:58) Hi everyone
Cristian Casas Lacralo: (14:59) buens das
Glenn McKnight(NARALO): (14:59) Hi Narine
Gisella Gruber: (14:59) Welcome to everyone! We will be starting shortly
Gisella Gruber: (14:59) Gisella Gruber: NOTE - Adobe Connect audio is in ENGLISH only. To hear French and Spanish audio, please join the ADIGO phone bridge (you can request a dial-out to staff)
Narine Khachatryan: (15:00) Hi Glenn
Priyatosh Jana: (15:02) Hi everyone
Katambi Joan: (15:02) hi
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (15:02) Bonjour à tous
Gabdibé Gab-Hingonné: (15:03) Hello everyone !
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (15:03) Gab comment vas tu??
Alan Greenberg: (15:04) If you have questions during the presentation, place them here starting with "QUESTION:"
Gabdibé Gab-Hingonné: (15:04) Bonjour à tous et toutes
Holly Raiche: (15:04) Yes
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:04) yes, we can
Bikram Shrestha: (15:04) yes.. we do
Katambi Joan: (15:04) yes
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (15:04) yes
Esther Akello: (15:04) yes - very clear Olivier
Andrés Azpúrua: (15:04) Hola from caracas
Suhaidi Hassan ISOC-MY: (15:04) yup
Priyatosh Jana: (15:04) yes
javie4 chandia: (15:04) yes
Diego Acosta Bastidas: (15:05) Saludos desde Ecuador. Diego Acosta Bastidas
Diego Acosta Bastidas: (15:06) Fraternals regards from Ecuador. Diego Acosta Bastidas
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:08) audio lost on AC?
Michel MTCHONANG LINZE: (15:08) Hill everyone
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (15:08) no sound
Holly Raiche: (15:08) Alan's sound is gone
Priyatosh Jana: (15:08) no sound
Ali AlMeshal: (15:08) no sound
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:08) Yippee. Again.
Andrés Azpúrua: (15:08) no sound on the App
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:08) Sorry about this - we had the same problem yesterday
Gisella Gruber: (15:08) AUDIO is coming back!
Glenn McKnight(NARALO): (15:08) Repeat as last night. This is unfortunate
Andrea Glandon: (15:08) We will be reconnecting the AC audio
Ali AlMeshal: (15:09) so Alan can pause until it get fix
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:09) do not worry -- we wait as soon as we know the AC audio is down so you are not missing anything
Holly Raiche: (15:09) The sound stopped just as Alan was starting to explain IP addresses
Vernatius Okwu EZEAMA: (15:09) The audio is bad
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:09) This has happened 6 times yesterday
Holly Raiche: (15:09) the audio is non existant
Diego Acosta Bastidas: (15:09) Ecuador: Audio ok
Bikram Shrestha: (15:09) no audio
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:09) hmm what is it with Adigo ? because I’m thinking this is not an adobe connect issue
Esther Akello: (15:10) on the phone Audio is all good
Michel MTCHONANG LINZE: (15:10) Soun is bag
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:10) but more of a phone bridge issue?
Ali AlMeshal: (15:10) sound back
Glenn McKnight(NARALO): (15:10) k
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:10) Dev, I think the same, and it is worriesome, it will be the same in Zoom
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:11) yes, to me its nothing to do with the adobe connect at all
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:11) Hpe ICANN undesrtand that, in order to fix it
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:13) @Ricardo - indeed
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:13) .org is a GENERIC Top Level Domain
Holly Raiche: (15:13) Naybe explain the abbreviations ccTLD and gTLD?
Esther Akello: (15:14) on Attendance list Esther Akello is same person as Patricia Akello. - Agenda Section.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:14) ccTLD = Country Code Top LEvel Doman - like .CA
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:14) gTLD = Generic Top Level Domain - like .ORG
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (15:15) I Want to know about the PIR management by ISOC??
Yesim Nazlar: (15:16) Webinar open to all still but attendance will NOT be counted as VALID - it is 15min past the hour and we are 9 slides into the webinar
Gisella Gruber: (15:17) NOTE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE LATE WILL NOT BE LOGGED AS HAVING ATTENDED IF THEY APPLY FOR ATLAS III. Anyone arriving now will NOT be logged on the attendance
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:17) Bakary, I recommend you to enter pir.org, it has most of the information.
Michel MTCHONANG LINZE: (15:17) Thank Alan
Otunte Otueneh: (15:18) Joining the seconday day of the workshop gives more understanding
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (15:19) OK, Thinks Mr Ricardo
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:20) well unable to stay on the call (work calls) take care all
Oksana Prykhodko: (15:21) How many roots are in Russia?
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (15:21) How many Root servers are in Africa
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (15:21) ?
Alan Greenberg: (15:21) Looks like about 13, but Olivier will tell you how to find out.
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (15:22) Ok, thinks
Priyatosh Jana: (15:22) How many Root servers are in Asia Pacific?
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (15:23) yes
Holly Raiche: (15:23) There is an echo - someone check the line
Bikram Shrestha: (15:23) yes
Amal Al-Saqqaf: (15:23) yes, it's fine with echo
Winthrop Yu - Philippines: (15:23) Ok to speak, echo not a problem
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:23) in AC is not that bad
Holly Raiche: (15:23) Keep going
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (15:23) ok but slowdown
Alan Greenberg: (15:24) root-servers. Looks like 52 in Africa
haroun mahamat cherif: (15:24) no sound
Alan Greenberg: (15:24) Oops Root-servers.org
Andrea Glandon: (15:24) I am still hearing the audio on the AC
Ibtissam KAIFOUF 2: (15:24) Hello everyone. is it possible to download this presentation?
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:25) it seems there some unmuted users
Andrea Glandon: (15:25) The presentation is available on the agenda wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/GAJ1Bg
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (15:25) What is the necessity of the validation server to implamente the DNSSEC???
Holly Raiche: (15:25) It just checks that the sender is who it says it is
Alan Greenberg: (15:26) Can staff mute all participants?
Ibtissam KAIFOUF 2: (15:26) thaank you!
Holly Raiche: (15:26) No sound again
Yesim Nazlar: (15:26) @Alan: no feedback from the AC, trying to locate on the phone bridge
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (15:26) no voice now
Priyatosh Jana: (15:26) no sound
Otunte Otueneh: (15:26) No sound
Jose Ovidio Salgueiro: (15:26) Not hearing anything
Ali AlMeshal: (15:27) no sound
Daniel K. Nanghaka 2: (15:27) The sound has vanished
Andrea Glandon: (15:27) We are reconnecting the AC audio. We have paused the presentation.
Gisella Gruber: (15:27) We are reconnecting AUDIO - sorry for the issue
Katambi Joan: (15:27) OK waiting
Holly Raiche: (15:28) @ Alan and OCL - please keep watch on the chat so you can spot very quickly when the sound stops
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:28) yes
Gisella Gruber: (15:28) Problemas de audio: nos volveremos a conectar muy pronto
Alan Greenberg: (15:28) @Holly, that is what we are doing!
Holly Raiche: (15:28) Good - now to fix the problem!~
Gisella Gruber: (15:28) AUDIO is back
Holly Raiche: (15:28) Yes
Priyatosh Jana: (15:29) audio back now
Holly Raiche: (15:30) @ Alan - I trust you noted Bakary's quesiton on the necessity of validation?
Holly Raiche: (15:33) @ Bakary - this should answer your question
Oksana Prykhodko: (15:34) Are these attackers registered and tracked?
Alan Greenberg: (15:35) @Bakary, in theory, you could get a resolver for your own computer that checks. In practice, many of us rely on our ISP to do that for us. Some ISPs do that, some do not.
Oksana Prykhodko: (15:36) I dropped, could you please dial-out to me again? +380 44 289 5859/ Thank you!
Yesim Nazlar: (15:36) @Oksana: sure
Oksana Prykhodko: (15:37) Thank you!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:38) Oksana Prykhodko: Are these attackers registered and tracked? ----->> Yes, of course they are tracked, but this is a constant battle, all happening at very fast speed
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:38) and the attackers use all sorts of ways to avoid detection, mostly by actually hacking from computers that they have already hacked
Oksana Prykhodko: (15:38) @ Olivier - thank you, do not hear anything on phone bridge(
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:39) hacked computer -> hacked computer -> haced computer -> hacked computer tec.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:39) etc.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:39) phone bridge should be okay
kissqngou: (15:39) who decide to set a resolver it is a company or an ISP?
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:43) you can run your own reolver if you want. Most people use their ISP's resolver
Andrés Azpúrua: (15:43) how are abuses by ccTLD registries handled by ICANN, IANA or the Internet community
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:43) @Andrés: we will be dealing with this shortly
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (15:44) good question
Holly Raiche: (15:45) sound gone again
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:45) no sound again
Ali AlMeshal: (15:45) sound lost
Monique Chartrand: (15:45) Is there any documentation on the business models associated with the TLD
Eranga Samararathna (SLNG): (15:45) lost audio
Daniel K. Nanghaka 2: (15:45) Sound has disappeared
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:45) Have to leave
Priyatosh Jana: (15:45) sound lost again
Otunte Otueneh: (15:45) no audio
Andrea Glandon: (15:45) One moment, we wil reconnect the audio momentarily
Andrea Glandon: (15:45) We have paused the presentation
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:46) Happy to see so many participants, specially from LatinAmerica
Ricardo Holmquist: (15:46) bye
Gisella Gruber: (15:46) AUDIO issues - we will reconnect shortly
Bikram Shrestha: (15:46) again no audio
Gisella Gruber: (15:46) Problemas de audio - estamos reconectando
Gisella Gruber: (15:46) AUDIO - nous allons reconnecter sous peu
Michel MTCHONANG LINZE: (15:47) Bon courage
Ali AlMeshal: (15:47) هناك مشكله في الصوت
Alan Greenberg: (15:47) @Monique - The only place I am aware of regarding TLD business models is the TLD itself. Some harder to find than others.
Holly Raiche: (15:47) Yes
Gisella Gruber: (15:47) AUDIO is back - set de retour
Monique Chartrand: (15:48) Merci Alan !
Esther Akello: (15:48) phone audio dropped
Esther Akello: (15:49) let me try connecting to computer directly
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (15:49) Est-il judicieux d'implementer le DNSSEC dans la Zone Racine sans avoir de Serveur de Validation??
Otunte Otueneh: (15:51) Is there no way prices can be controlled by ICANN ?
Esther Akello: (15:52) getting the audio through AC
Priyatosh Jana: (15:53) @Alan How many Root servers are in Asia Pacific?
Alan Greenberg: (15:53) @Otunte, ICANN sets some fees charged to registrars and registries so that tends to set a minimum (unless the Registrar or registry wants to lose money on each). Historically, ICANN also sets the max proce from a registry to registrar but that is being phsed out.
Vrikson Acosta: (15:54) In Spanish it is also RGPD
Alan Greenberg: (15:55) @Otunte different domain names have different values, and that is beyond ICANN. Example: .bank is available ONLY to real registered banks and the value (and costs to verify) are very different. from a TLD like .com.
Otunte Otueneh: (15:55) @Alan, thanks
Alan Greenberg: (15:56) @Priyatosh: See root-servers.org. You can zoom in there.
Priyatosh Jana: (15:57) alan thanks
Holly Raiche: (15:58) There are voices in the background?
Yesim Nazlar: (15:59) @Holly: Trying to locate the background noises
Alan Greenberg: (16:01) Variants are interesting. If you register one variant with some TLDs, they automatically give you the other. For other TLDs, if you register one variant, they stop anyone else from registering the other. Other TLDs allow the two variants to be registered by different people, possible causing great confusion among users.
Holly Raiche: (16:03) Yes
Bikram Shrestha: (16:03) Yes, we do
Oksana Prykhodko: (16:03) The mix of Latin and none-Latin scripts in one domain name creates a lot of cybersecurity risks. What are possible sollutions of this problem?
Otunte Otueneh: (16:04) no audio
Holly Raiche: (16:04) Sound gone
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (16:04) n sounds
Bikram Shrestha: (16:04) no audio again..
Esther Akello: (16:04) no sound for me too
Ali AlMeshal: (16:04) sound
Priyatosh Jana: (16:04) no audio again
Andrea Glandon: (16:04) We will reconnect the audio. The presentation has paused
Andrea Glandon: (16:04) One Moment please
Daniel K. Nanghaka 2: (16:04) Terrible audio issues here
Gabdibé Gab-Hingonné: (16:05) Audio ?
Andrea Glandon: (16:05) We are reconnecting the audio
javie4 chandia: (16:05) hello...audio?
Holly Raiche: (16:06) Yes
Esther Akello: (16:06) okay now
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (16:06) Myname is hanan khatib and the audio is back
Vrikson Acosta: (16:06) audio is back
Eduardo Diaz: (16:06) You should do this using zoom
Holly Raiche: (16:06) NO
Bikram Shrestha: (16:06) no ok now
Ibtissam KAIFOUF 2: (16:09) How intellectual property issues related to domain names are managed?
Esther Akello: (16:11) breaking sound
Esther Akello: (16:12) okay now
javie4 chandia: (16:12) hola Diego...un abrazo
Alan Greenberg: (16:13) Face-book look-alikes are particularly interesting. You can log on to MANY system using you Facebook (or Google) credentials, so if you create a fake sight, you can steal very valuable ids and passwords.
Vrikson Acosta: (16:13) the "c" in russian is the "s" in latin characters
Alan Greenberg: (16:14) @Vrikson, yes, but domain names are only written, so although it might be pronounced differently, it doesn't matter.
Vrikson Acosta: (16:14) the other 3 letters are the same. But considered different for they come from a different character set
Alan Greenberg: (16:16) So "coke" may e pronounced Sokia (like Nokia) but you can't see that!
Esther Akello: (16:16) no sounds
Alan Greenberg: (16:16) Adobe connect sound is still on.
Holly Raiche: (16:17) still sound
Winthrop Yu - Philippines: (16:17) It is working
Andrés Azpúrua: (16:17) sound on the App
Andrea Glandon: (16:17) We are checking on the AC
Oksana Prykhodko: (16:17) @Olivier Thank you! eump.org, еump.org, eиmp.org, eump.оrg - just examples
Esther Akello: (16:17) my apologies I have to run
Andrea Glandon: (16:18) AC is good
Esther Akello: (16:18) Thanks Allan and Olivier
Esther Akello: (16:18) I have to attend to some urgent work assignments
Andrés Azpúrua: (16:18) how about to problems with registries
Alan Greenberg: (16:19) Also icann.org/registrants is really good
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (16:19) My last question is not answered
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (16:19) Est-il judicieux d'implementer le DNSSEC dans la Zone Racine sans avoir de Serveur de Validation?
Amal Al-Saqqaf: (16:21) Thank you Alan & Olivier! Who is responsible of observing and making sure the registrant obligations are being followed?
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (16:22) when you said ICANN is the managing ICANN.org is it because they owun it or in geneteral they managing level 2 domain names
Holly Raiche: (16:22) No sound again
Winthrop Yu - Philippines: (16:22) no audio
Otunte Otueneh: (16:22) no sound
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (16:22) no sound again
Yesim Nazlar: (16:23) We're reconnecting the AC audio, apologies
Priyatosh Jana: (16:23) no audio
Bikram Shrestha: (16:23) no sound
Yesim Nazlar: (16:24) Presenters have stopped and waiting for the audio connection to be back on AC
javie4 chandia: (16:24) no hay sonido
Adrian Carballo - LACRALO: (16:24) No hay sonido
Gisella Gruber: (16:25) AUDIO issue - we are reconnecting
Vrikson Acosta: (16:25) audio is back once again
Winthrop Yu - Philippines: (16:25) redelegation? :)
Priyatosh Jana: (16:26) clear audio
Holly Raiche: (16:27) There is noise in the background again
Winthrop Yu - Philippines: (16:27) echo sounds like a horror movie .. of sorts :)
Ali AlMeshal: (16:27) somone looping
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (16:28) Does it make sense to implement DNSSEC in the root zone without having a validation server?
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (16:28) yes someone looping again and again
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (16:28) ok thanks Bakary
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (16:30) I have last the line
Yesim Nazlar: (16:30) @Bakary: we'll redial back to you
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (16:30) I'm reconnected
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (16:31) Sorry Bakary -- you missed the response to your question
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (16:31) i missed a party
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (16:32) I lost aigain
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (16:32) thanks
Andrés Azpúrua: (16:33) had to reconnect. lost part of response to my question. is the recording going to be available?
Yesim Nazlar: (16:33) @Omar: please mute your computer, it's causing echo
Vrikson Acosta: (16:33) That's right, domain names are not own per se. But in practice it could happen, because there in no limit to the number of times of renewals by the registrant who has the right to use it
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (16:34) Thanks Vrikson
Michel MTCHONANG LINZE: (16:35) What are the advantages of hosting the root server in a territory?What is the competent territory for conflicting intellectual property of domain names?
Bikram Shrestha: (16:35) Thank you Alan
Otunte Otueneh: (16:35) Thanks for the workshop. It was quite educating.
Bikram Shrestha: (16:35) once again and thanks to Olivier
Ali AlMeshal: (16:35) great discussion and presentaion
Bikram Shrestha: (16:35) and thanks to all staff
Holly Raiche: (16:35) Thanks to both Alan and Olivier
Ali AlMeshal: (16:35) thanks Alan & Olivier
Michel MTCHONANG LINZE: (16:35) Than you againg Alan and Olivier
Otunte Otueneh: (16:35) Thanks to Alan and Olivier
Jose Ovidio Salgueiro: (16:35) Thanks Alan. Great prsesntation
Amir Qayyum: (16:35) Thanks to Alan, Olivier and the staff.
Daniel K. Nanghaka 2: (16:36) Thank you Alan and Olivier for the webinar
Alan Greenberg: (16:36) The ICANN Learn course has a LOT more information...
Andrés Azpúrua: (16:36) thank you Olivier snd Alan
Daniel K. Nanghaka 2: (16:36) It was great webinar indeed
Priyatosh Jana: (16:36) Thanks to all staff as well as Alan and Olivier
Vernatius Okwu EZEAMA: (16:36) Thank you for Webinar
Michel MTCHONANG LINZE: (16:36) Bye All !
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (16:36) Thank you all for the information
Cristian Casas Lacralo: (16:36) gracias buenos dias
Anne-Marie Joly-bachollet: (16:36) Thank you it was very interesting
Joanna Kulesza: (16:36) https://community.icann.org/display/ATLAS3/Online+Training+Courses
Gisella Gruber: (16:36) Next Webinars - Tuesday 30 April at 21:00 UTC and Thursday 2 May at 12:00 on the GNSO!
Maritza Aguero: (16:37) Great webinar indeed!
Priyatosh Jana: (16:37) I have been enriched by the information
Gisella Gruber: (16:37) Email invitation will be sent out later today
Abdulkarim Oloyede: (16:37) I hope some of the technical challenges today would be sorted out for subsequent calls
Bakary KOUYATE (ISOC MALI): (16:37) thinks Gisella
Abdulkarim Oloyede: (16:37) thank you
Gisella Gruber: (16:38) ALL courses are posted here - dates and times: https://community.icann.org/display/ATLAS3/Online+Training+Courses
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (16:38) The Webinars are all recorded --- thus you can listen to them again later once they are put on the WIKI --- it important if you were dropped for part of the call - and apologies again for the technical problems
Bikram Shrestha: (16:38) Thank you once again.
Oksana Prykhodko: (16:38) Thank you, bye!
Winthrop Yu - Philippines: (16:38) Thank you Olivier, Alan, all!
Otunte Otueneh: (16:38) Thanks Joanna
Gabdibé Gab-Hingonné: (16:38) Merci à tout le monde.
Ali AlMeshal: (16:38) bye all
javie4 chandia: (16:38) muchas gracias
Daniel K. Nanghaka 2: (16:38) Thank you all and bye
Priyatosh Jana: (16:38) Good bye to all
Gabdibé Gab-Hingonné: (16:38) À bientôt !
Daniel K. Nanghaka 2: (16:38) Bye
hkhatib2000@yahoo.com: (16:38) bye
Rudi Daniel: (16:39) thank you and hi Bickram
Otunte Otueneh: (16:39) Bye All
Suhaidi Hassan ISOC-MY: (16:39) bye
javie4 chandia: (16:39) bye a.ll
kissqngou: (16:39) bye bye
Adrian Carballo - LACRALO: (16:39) Bye all!
Vrikson Acosta 2: (16:39) bye everyone :)
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