Zoom chat: 2021-05-26 AFRALO Operating Principles Review Working Group Call

19:45:18 From Yesim Nazlar to Everyone:
Welcome to the AFRALO Operating Principles Review Working Group Call taking place on Wednesday, 26 May 2021 at 17:00 UTC
19:45:35 From Yesim Nazlar to Everyone:
Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/fwjQCQ
20:03:02 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
اثممخ شمم
20:03:06 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
hello all
20:03:19 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
sorry for the Arabic typing
20:03:37 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Hello Hadia, Welcome
20:03:51 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
Hello All
20:08:32 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Ok let's present on the nect call
20:08:35 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
next
20:08:54 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Ok, Hadia, thanks.
20:09:03 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Yes and the issues under review will impact the individual application form
20:09:08 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Sarah added the form
20:11:14 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#article12
20:11:19 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
ICANN by laws above
20:12:13 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
B) The criteria and standards for the certification of At-Large Structures shall be established in such a way that participation by individual Internet users who are citizens or residents of countries within the Geographic Region of the RALO will predominate in the operation of each At-Large Structure within the RALO, while not necessarily excluding additional participation, compatible with the interests of the individual Internet users within the region, by others.
20:12:29 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
(C) Each RALO's Memorandum of Understanding shall also include provisions designed to allow, to the greatest extent possible, every individual Internet user who is a citizen of a country within the RALO's Geographic Region to participate in at least one of the RALO's At-Large Structures.
20:12:47 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Articles mentioned by Hadia are posted above
20:13:28 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Agree with Hadia
20:13:54 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
citizens is a must
20:14:10 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
We cannot hear you seun
20:14:15 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Seun you volume is low
20:14:17 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Now yes
20:14:18 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
like this is not negotiable
20:14:28 From sarahk@mozillafoundation.org to Everyone:
Agree, citizens is a must
20:14:52 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
citizens or residents
20:15:12 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
sorry "or"
20:15:21 From sarahk@mozillafoundation.org to Everyone:
I would also say “or”
20:15:41 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
the bylaws say "or"
20:16:12 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Correct Hadia the By-Laws say "or"
20:17:40 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Thanks Silvia
20:18:02 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
Right Hadia and Silvia so we maintain the "or"
20:18:37 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
MOU article 2. Membership : we declare that every interested citizen or resident in our region is welcome to join at least one of our ALSes"
20:19:41 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
MOU link: https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/AFRALO+MOU+and+Organising+Documents?preview=/2261401/36374156/African%20Region%202007%20RALO.pdf
20:19:58 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
thanks Silvia.
20:22:56 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
I think adding he one year does not contradict with the bylaws
20:23:01 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
the
20:26:22 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
+1 Sarah
20:27:46 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Seun your audio is breaking
20:28:48 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
6.A RALO Individual Member must not be a Representative or a Leader of an ALS​2to any RALO
20:29:13 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
@Isaac, maybe we should use the same text?
20:29:46 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
@Sarah, sure
20:33:09 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
oops @Hadia my audio was breaking up?
20:33:18 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
sorry about that
20:33:42 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
file:///tmp/mozilla_ize0/Unaffiliated%20Individuals%20Mobilization%20Working%20Party%20Report%20FINAL.pdf
20:34:05 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4Kf7uX1CPyN9KmvjWvtwx6nnMtZCBsJpb5WE4wht3Y/edit#
20:34:11 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Unaffiliated+Individuals+Mobilization+Working+Party?preview=/136120259/160727846/Unaffiliated%20Individuals%20Mobilization%20Working%20Party%20Report%20FINAL.pdf
20:34:25 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
UIM report above
20:34:41 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Unaffiliated+Individuals+Mobilization+Working+Party
20:35:03 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Sorry for the non working link, thanks Silvia
20:35:25 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
you are breaking again
20:36:57 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
oops is that the same with others?
20:37:05 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
let me change link
20:37:07 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
No Seun
20:38:36 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
And maybe add and "related/relevant activities"
20:41:52 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
it is good Seun
20:42:59 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
ALAC Rules of Procedure - Adjunct Document 04 - At-Large Structure Framework

ALS applications, certification decisions on applications and other information, as appropriate, will be publicly posted.

De-Certification of an At-Large Structure:

Decisions to de-certify an ALS shall require a 2/3 majority of the members of the ALAC who cast a vote as provided in the Rules of Procedure of the ALAC, and any decertification decision shall be subject to review as provided in the ICANN Bylaws, Article IV, Section 2. Reasons for the ALAC to pursue de-certification action, and to de-certify an ALS, may include persistent non-compliance with significant ALS requirements. The ALAC will provide advance notice to the ALS in question, and the ALS will have an opportunity to be heard and respond to the ALAC prior to a decision on de-certification. The ALAC will notify the ALS of its de-certification decision and provide information on requesting a review of the decision.
20:43:10 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
+1 Seun
20:43:14 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
Thanks for the feedback Hadia
20:43:26 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Above ALAC rules for Decertification
20:44:13 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
ALAC ROPs: ALAC Decertification Process. Section 15. At Large Structures
20:46:15 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
AI: Sara, Barrack and co-chairs to come up with a paragraph to capture Decertification
20:47:27 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
They will also look at other RALO's practice for decertification
20:48:30 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
And come up with proposed text by the next call
20:49:37 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Termination and withdrawal to be examined at the next call
20:49:58 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
ok
20:53:40 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
We don't need to be strict in applying the rules - but that does not mean we should not have them
20:54:01 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
+1 Hadia, we should have something in the rules at least
20:54:48 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
+1 Seun should be very flexible
20:57:05 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Putting a relaxed threshold would do
20:57:56 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Thank you all
20:58:00 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Next call?
20:58:11 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Please note we don't have interpretation next week
20:58:16 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE CAPDA CMR to Everyone:
Merci Sarah
20:58:28 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
So the WG could resume work during the week June 07
20:58:58 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Noted, Thank you Silvia
20:59:23 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Thanks Sarah.
21:00:57 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
I think we should discuss this next time
21:01:05 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
There’s no time to do the topic justice
21:01:20 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Yes, I agree Sarah it deserves more discussion
21:01:34 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
Yeah there is no much time but we should make comments before next meeting
21:02:36 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
@Seun, maybe drop the suggestions on the mailing list
21:02:41 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Thursday 10 June
21:02:52 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Same time as today is okay
21:03:00 From Seun Ojedeji to Everyone:
Fine by me
21:03:02 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE CAPDA CMR to Everyone:
ok
21:03:06 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
fine by me too
21:03:14 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Great.
21:03:53 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone:
Thursday - June 10 at 17:00 UTC
21:04:03 From Isaac Maposa to Everyone:
Thank you all.
21:04:05 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Thank you bye all
21:04:05 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
thanks
21:04:08 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong to Everyone:
bye
21:04:09 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
Thank you everyone