Attendees:
Sub-group Members: Cheryl Langdon-Orr, David McAuley, Finn Petersen, Greg Shatan, Kavouss Arasteh, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix, Steve DelBianco, Tijani Ben Jemaa
Observers/Guests: Luisa Paez, Rita Houkayem, Taylor R.W. Bentley, Thomas Rickert
ICANN Org: Bernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer, Laurent Farrali, Meghan Healy,
Apologies: Jorge Cancio
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **
Transcript
Recording
Agenda
- Welcome
- Review of Agenda
- Administration
- Changes to SOIs
- Identify Audio Only and Phone Number Participants
- Continued analysis of comments
- Complete initial Review comments
- Strategy for updating recommendations
- AOB
- Adjourn (next meeting 7 February 1900UTC)
Raw Captioning Notes
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Decisions:
- Next meeting on 7 February will be for 90 minutes.
Action Items:
- Staff – Update analysis document - change colours on section 10. Include elements of official translation of French comment.
- GS – will post draft language on the Google Doc for the changes that have been discussed and agreed in principle.
Requests:
- Participants review draft language prior to next call.
Documents Presented
- Jurisdiction-PC-Jan2018-Summary_Discussion-Legal
- CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Final Draft v1.2.pdf
Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer: (1/31/2018 06:26) Good day all! Welcome to WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting #53 on 31 January 2018 @ 13:00 UTC.
Brenda Brewer: (06:35) When not speaking, please mute your phone by pressing *6 (star 6). To unmute, *6. This call is recorded.
Brenda Brewer: (06:36) Reminder to all, for captioning and transcription, please state your name before speaking and speak slowly. Thank you!
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (06:54) hello all
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (06:55) hello all
CART: (06:55) Hello!
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (06:55) ping
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (06:55) hello!
CART: (06:57) Brenda, who will be the Rapporteur today?
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (06:57) Greg Shatan
CART: (06:58) Thank you
CART: (06:59) Audio is good. Thank you!
David McAuley: (07:01) Brenda, I am 8222
Kavouss Arasteh: (07:01) Brenda
Kavouss Arasteh: (07:01) I AM CONNECTED
David McAuley: (07:02) ok
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:02) reminder please mute when not speaking
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (07:02) hi all
Thomas Rickert: (07:03) Hi all!
Kavouss Arasteh 2: (07:11) MY telephone line is disconnected May you tryo dial again
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:11) @Kavouss ok
David McAuley: (07:12) pesky host
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:12) correct
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:13) @David - you have no idea ;-)
David McAuley: (07:13) :-)
Kavouss Arasteh 3: (07:14) Brenda
Thomas Rickert: (07:14) ...meeting all other eligibility requirements?
Brenda Brewer: (07:14) The operator is calling you momentarily. Thank you
David McAuley: (07:14) how about viable applicant
Kavouss Arasteh 3: (07:15) Sorry I am disconnectded M
Brenda Brewer: (07:15) Kavouss, the operator is calling you momentarily
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:16) time check - 75 minutes left in call
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:17) tijani is next in line
Kavouss Arasteh 3: (07:18) That is ok now tks
Kavouss Arasteh 3: (07:18) That is ok now tk <t
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:18) Still on 8.07
Kavouss Arasteh 3: (07:19) distorted voice
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (07:20) I think Thomas' is a good idea
David McAuley: (07:20) Thanks @Thomas
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:21) say the number please
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:21) Poole 8.09
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:21) Middle Ease Space 8.10
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:21) East
David McAuley: (07:23) Fair point by Steve
Steve DelBianco: (07:24) I did say we should mentoin OFAC, Kavouss
David McAuley: (07:24) No problem with Kavouss's point either
Kavouss Arasteh 3: (07:25) Tks Steve and David in maintaining OFAC plus
Kavouss Arasteh 3: (07:26) Tks Steve and David in maintaining OFAC plusand
Steve DelBianco: (07:29) True, Tijani!
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:29) Tijani and then Kavouss
David McAuley: (07:29) Good point @Tijani
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:30) Apololgies if there is confusion on colour - these comments were not relevant to any specific recommendation which is why we flipped the colouring
Steve DelBianco: (07:31) Kavouss -- several commenters agreed with Minority Report. So the BC offered its view that the minority report did not enjoy our support
David McAuley: (07:31) Thanks Bernie, understood
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:32) Kaovuss
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:32) then Tijani
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:33) yes
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (07:33) yes
Steve DelBianco: (07:33) So, Kavouss believes it is appropriate to indicate support for the Minority Report. But he does not want to allow disagreement with the Minority report?
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:34) Makes sense to change the colour - will do
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:34) @ tijani was indicating support for the minority view - but will change vs main report
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:35) Kavouss
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:38) Kavouss hand
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (07:38) The tone seems a bit acrimonious and not quite constructive overall
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (07:38) re John Poole's submission
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:41) Steve
Steve DelBianco: (07:44) The BC offers the Stress Tests for consideration of this WS2 group. We are not requesting that they be added to the report
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:45) Time check - 45 minutes left in call
Kavouss Arasteh 3: (07:46) we would likje to maintaIN THE STRESS TESTS associated with the report
Steve DelBianco: (07:46) would be easier for people to open the Google Doc in a separate browser tab
Kavouss Arasteh 3: (07:49) Dear Bernie
Finn Petersen 2: (07:49) I can not speak now, but I can send a suggestion for adjustments to the report on the email list
Kavouss Arasteh 3: (07:49) Pls kindly correct the spelling and CAP ain the captions
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (07:50) Re Italy's submission: I am not sure I fully understand where they want to go with the CRC and in addition they just disagree with all options and do not really suggest besides a "clear legal framework"
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (07:50) sorry cannot use audio today btw
Brenda Brewer: (07:53) scroll is on for all
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (07:53) I don't feel there is any change recommended either. Or we would need further precisions on what they imply with invoking the convention on the rights of the child in this context
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:55) David hand
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:55) Kavouss hand
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (07:57) but cant there be venue shopping as part of contracts w/o a choice of law?
David McAuley 2: (07:58) good point @Raphael as to venue shopping
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (07:58) its sure that spelling out options make it clear where you can go and shop I suppose..
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (07:59) Kavouss hand
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (08:02) Bernard hand
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (08:03) yes, but quality is low though
David McAuley 2: (08:04) on mute?
Kavouss Arasteh 4: (08:05) Greg ,My undersatnding of yr comments is aligne the summary with the main report
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (08:06) time check 25 minutes left in call
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (08:06) Kavovuss hand
David McAuley 2: (08:07) agree with Greg on that minor change
David McAuley 2: (08:08) i.e., impact assessment of menu approach
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (08:14) yes. we don't have the power to force discussions or stop them...
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (08:17) time check 15 minutes left
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (08:18) @Kavous hand
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (08:19) Re France will do
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (08:20) 4.05
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (08:22) Kavouss hand
Bernard turcotte - ICANN: (08:28) bye all
David McAuley 2: (08:28) Thanks Greg and all, good bye
Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix: (08:28) thanks all bye bye
Thomas Rickert: (08:28) bye all
