00:18:40 Glenn McKnight: This is the online form asking folks for their ideas for topics for second Monday of the NARALO meetings. Don't be shy and provide your suggestions. We will not have a session in September but looking for suggestions
00:18:59 Mohammed Awal Alhassan: Mohammed Awal from Ghana. Ghanasig/EGIGFA fellow. I can't really here anything. Could that be from my device?
00:19:31 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Welcome everyone to the NARALO Monthly teleconference!
00:19:35 Glenn McKnight: Welcome Mohammed Awal
00:19:43 Glenn McKnight: Volume is good for me
00:19:52 Glenn McKnight: Is everyone ok for volume?
00:20:10 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Yes, audio sounds good for me
00:20:30 Alfredo Calderon: Yes we are. Sent @Mohammed a private message.
00:21:32 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: NARALO GA 2022 Registration form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ramfNiAxgmYj-CvhpPB1nST65OsS2WV5fCiKy-H171U/viewform?edit_requested=true
00:21:39 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Welcome Leon!
00:21:41 Judith Hellerstein: The form is currently only for ALSES now
00:21:56 Judith Hellerstein: But it will be open for individual members shortly
00:21:59 Leon Sanchez: Hello everyone!
00:22:11 silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: yes
00:22:15 silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: Welcome Leon!
00:22:17 David Mackey: Hi Leon
00:22:23 Bill Jouris: The form worked for me when I put :N/A' for my ALS.
00:23:08 Leon Sanchez: Thanks Silvia and Michelle
00:23:12 Leon Sanchez: Hi David
00:23:40 Glenn McKnight: We are planning a NARALO GA in October with ARIN , We sent out an invitation last week and we have limited time for people to respond. PLEASE COMPLETE ASAP https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ramfNiAxgmYj-CvhpPB1nST65OsS2WV5fCiKy-H171U/viewform?edit_requested=true
00:24:00 Sonigitu EKPE: Can't see the screen presentation.
00:24:06 Glenn McKnight: Ed is this session being recorded?
00:24:23 Glenn McKnight: Anyone else have a problem seeing the session?
00:24:48 Eduardo Diaz: @Glenn it is being recorded and live streamed
00:24:58 Andre Dias: I can see and hear all
00:25:07 Glenn McKnight: Please let me know if you have any questions please post so we read them out to Debbie
00:26:50 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Greetings to all from GhanaSIG... always honoured to be here...
00:27:34 Glenn McKnight: welcome Lavish
00:27:55 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Thank you Glenn...
00:28:08 Glenn McKnight: Thanks to all the 35 attendees today. and special thank you to Debbie and Tom
00:28:23 Andre Dias: Glenn, my question: do all 4 networks allow ipfs websites?
00:29:25 Glenn McKnight: Thanks
00:31:23 Glenn McKnight: amazon cypto wallets
00:31:23 Glenn McKnight: https://www.amazon.ca/crypto-wallet/s?k=crypto+wallet
00:31:25 Claudio Digangi: when you say laws don't apply in the same way as new gTLDs, are you suggesting the remedies under the Anti-Cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act (in the US) are not applicable?
00:33:17 Glenn McKnight: Claudio we will ask your questions when she pauses
00:33:51 Claudio Digangi: @glenn ok, thxs!
00:34:19 Eduardo Diaz: What happens if you lose your hard wallet?
00:34:36 Glenn McKnight: Tom please email me the slideshow so I can convert it to a ebook
00:35:31 Eduardo Diaz: CAn I use the wallet to store my photos?
00:37:39 Alfredo Calderon: <question> What happens if you do not have enough “coins/cash” to cover the fees when transactions are done?
00:37:47 Glenn McKnight: As soon as I get a copy of the slideshow I will convert it to a clickable Ebook
00:42:49 Glenn McKnight: Please post all your questions during the session to the chat. We will open it at the conclusion of Debbie's presentation
00:43:17 Glenn McKnight: @Siva please post your question here
00:46:30 Sébastien Bachollet: <Q> Why using the same words (regarding TLDs…) as it seems not the same thing as within DNS? <Q>
00:50:49 Sivasubramanian M: The authentication requirement for setting up and operating a wallet makes crypto wallets look as authenticated as that of central bank controlled banking. How does cryptomoney become money of choice for anonymous users, often to hold and transact illegitimate wealth? What part of crypto operate like the mythical Swiss bank numbered account?
00:50:57 Leon Sanchez: <question> might there be name collision and how would that impact stability?<question>
00:51:46 Eduardo Diaz: <Q> Can you buy a domain that is registered to you forever without the need to pay a yearly fee? <Q>
00:52:19 Glenn McKnight: Folks this session is 90 minutes so we are fine answering in detail questions or comments
00:58:19 Sivasubramanian M: ... the browser doesn't remember / the crypto platform doesn't take information from the browser that the two different users that you switched to are the same person using the same browser from the same device ???
00:58:58 Thomas Barrett: no. you need to be logged in to metamask with the owning wallet
00:59:44 Eduardo Diaz: <Q> Is there the concept of DNS zone records for these domains? For example, can I use that domain and redirect to a Facebook page? <Q>
01:00:55 Sivasubramanian M: ... a more general question: What percentage of the world's population is familiar and comfortable with these kind of interfaces and also these strings of addresses and numbers? What is the approximately estimated size of crypto currency users?
01:02:28 Claudio Digangi: what happens to the domain if it is not renewed?
01:12:20 Claudio Digangi: So if the registry has sufficient control over the domain to release it for re-registration (if the renewal fee is not paid) I'm not understanding whey they don't have to same ability to cancel or transfer the domain?
01:12:42 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: <QUESTION> Are these wallets restricted to certain countries? Considering PayPal which is 'restricted' to some countries ? <QUESTION>
01:13:35 Glenn McKnight: Tom and Debbie we have 30 minutes left
01:14:04 Glenn McKnight: Folks as soon as I get the slideshow i will convert it to a Ebook and share it
01:14:45 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: thank you.
01:14:52 Gregory Shatan: With apologies, I have to go to another (ICANN) call.
01:15:06 David Mackey: Bye Greg
01:15:39 Mohammed Awal Alhassan: @Glenn, that will be great
01:16:57 Claudio Digangi: thanks, Tom. Sorry, I'm using the wrong term Registry. Who then, or what entity, is collecting the renewal fee?
01:19:26 Sivasubramanian M: Do these names cause collision of some sort with the DNS names?
01:20:57 JOTHAN FRAKES: yes, siva, but the project did a snapshot of many (but not all) icann tlds at launch back in Feb 2020
01:20:59 David Mackey: I don't believe blockchain domain names cause collisions with ICANN domain names because the blockchain domain names need special browsers or special browser plugins ... so the ICANN domain name space is preserved
01:21:39 David Mackey: ... is preserved with regular browser use
01:22:00 Sivasubramanian M: @Jothan If that study was done by the project, was there a corresponding study done by ICANN? The outcome of both studies might differ
01:22:01 Thomas Barrett: @Claudio https://daocentral.com/dao/ens
01:22:38 JOTHAN FRAKES: mileage varies David. what is to stop cloudflare from adding support on their doh or public resolver?
01:24:21 David Mackey: So potential ICANN collisions depends on future browser developments
01:24:22 JOTHAN FRAKES: @siva nobody asked for a study from icann, but they did have a report from octo on the topic generally.
01:25:11 Glenn McKnight: @jothan do you have a link on the OCTO report?
01:25:36 Sivasubramanian M: Collisions can happen only if the blockchain domains are routed through the DNS, and from what I understand on your response to the redirect question, these names already go through the DNS, does that imply that ICANN has either overtly or simplicity allowed these names on the DNS, with the implication of causing all the collisions now and later?
01:26:09 Sivasubramanian M: @Jothan, I think we should. If no one has asked for a study from ICANN, I will.
01:26:38 JOTHAN FRAKES: I am on mobile w hobbled cut paste but Google octo-034
01:27:19 Naela Sarras - ICANN Org: @Siva here is the OCTO paper: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/octo-034-27apr22-en.pdf
01:27:38 JOTHAN FRAKES: thanks Naela
01:28:54 JOTHAN FRAKES: handshake project made an attempt to block icann tlds but missed contention set TLDs like .web or .music
01:29:24 Sivasubramanian M: Thank you Naela
01:30:09 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Thank you Thomas for the insights...
01:30:22 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: on the browsers...
01:30:28 JOTHAN FRAKES: .web got misallocated to ionos / web.de so whomever wins the highlander challenge gets to then chase the handshake tld down
01:30:42 Glenn McKnight: Here is the OCTO report as a ebook
01:30:43 Glenn McKnight: https://online.fliphtml5.com/gnel/vmdr/
01:31:08 David Mackey: Q: ICANN has experience working on DNS operational problems like DNS Abuse. How do would an operational problem like DNS abuse be affected by a blockchain domain system?
01:31:13 Eduardo Diaz: <Q> Can you use beacon to surf the regular DNS? <Q>
01:31:30 Carine Malor: insightful. thanks Thomas & Debbie
01:32:31 Glenn McKnight: Tom and Debbie are wrapping up soon and providing their final comments
01:34:21 David Mackey: Thanks. That raises the question of duplicate policy control efforts.
01:35:53 David Mackey: ... and policy control may go against the intent of blockchain domains. We’ll have to see how this plays out.
01:37:06 Sivasubramanian M: Debbie was saying something about trademarked names taking TWO DAYS to register, how is the trade mark question resolved in two days?
01:37:53 Glenn McKnight: we are close to the close of the session. Eduardo any final comments
01:38:19 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: If everyone would be so kind as to fill out the survey at the end of today’s meeting - it will pop up on your screen after the meeting ends , thank you so much!
01:38:51 Glenn McKnight: Please let us know if you like this type of session for the planning of NARALO sessions moving into the future
01:39:27 Glenn McKnight: Please return to the image zoom session michelle
01:39:41 Carine Malor: lovely session! very insightful. thank you
01:39:54 Glenn McKnight: We are glad you enjoyed it Carine
01:40:14 David Mackey: Thanks for the presentation Tom and Debbie!
01:40:19 Leon Sanchez: Thanks for this very interesting presentation
01:40:22 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Information overload... Great session...
01:40:40 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: If everyone would be so kind as to fill out the survey at the end of today’s meeting - it will pop up on your screen after the meeting ends , thank you so much!
01:41:36 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Debbie + Thomas, great team work and presentation...
01:41:36 David Mackey: Agreed Eduardo. It's good to watch technology evolution around us.
01:41:40 Thomas Barrett: A lot of great questions. thank your time today!
01:41:49 Alfredo Calderon: Important to know the conflicts that ICANN can expect after the next round of TLDs’ is opened.
01:41:50 Glenn McKnight: Thanks to the speakers and great audience
01:42:05 Sivasubramanian M: Thank you Thomas for the great session. Very informative.
01:42:11 Maria Leduc: Thanks for the information
01:42:18 Glenn McKnight: Special shout out to the leadership of Eduardo in design these monthly sessions
01:42:29 David Mackey: +1 @ Glenn
01:42:39 Otunte Otueneh: is it not worrisome that these domain names are not regulated? Very nice presentation
01:42:48 David Mackey: It
01:42:48 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: +1 @Glenn...
01:43:13 Mohammed Awal Alhassan: @Glenn +1
01:43:22 Glenn McKnight: See you all at other NARALO calls
01:43:30 Sivasubramanian M: Yes Glenn... Eduardo's initiatives for NARALO are ahead of ICANN :)
01:43:48 Claudio Digangi: thanks all
01:43:51 Alfredo Calderon: Thank You! Very good…
01:43:57 Maria Leduc: Bye
01:43:59 Sivasubramanian M: Thank you
01:44:00 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Thank you... gretting from GhanaSIG
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