Participants: Martin Boyle, Alejandra Reynoso, Ben Fuller, David McAuley, Dejan Djukic, Katrina Sataki, Mirjana Tasic, Stephen Deerhake
Staff: Bart Boswinkel, Kim Carlson, joke Braeken
Apologies: Maarten Simon, Eduardo Santoyo
Agenda:
1. Welcome and roll call
2. Liaisons guideline
3. Council elections guideline
4. Travel funding guideline
5. EC update
6. Next Steps
7. AOB
8. Next meeting (Monday 13 February)
Documents:
Chat transcript:
Bart Boswinkel:Hi All
Kimberly Carlson:Your audio is choppy - at best Stephen
Kimberly Carlson:Welcome all
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:Hi Katrina!
David McAuley:I seem to have a dead phone battery
Joke Braeken:hello everyone, welcome
Katrina Sataki:Hello people! :)
David McAuley:Hello all
David McAuley:am charging battery - will try to dial in shortly
Kimberly Carlson:@David, let me know if I can assist with anything. I have sent a ticket in re: the 404 error
David McAuley:Thanks Kim - I am a bit surprised with my phone issue - got a problem I am trying to sort
Mirjana Tasic .rs:Hello everybody
Ben Fuller:Hello all
martin boyle, Nominet:hi all: sorry I'm late
Stephen Deerhake:Good morning...
Kimberly Carlson:toll number +1 213 233 3193 for Adigo, toll free 1800 550 6865 (US)
David McAuley:I think these look good
Ben Fuller:No comments, I like the added clarity
Mirjana Tasic .rs:It looks good for me too
David McAuley:Thanks for numbers Kim - had a faulty charging connection, fixed it and now charging phone - should call in shortly
David McAuley:Seems like sensible suggestion by Martin
David McAuley:am dialing in now
Ben Fuller:Post 1 October 2016, the liaison post will become more important because of the need to communicate between members of the EC
David McAuley:Good point Martin, that is how it worked in CCWG on Accountability, at least as it appeared there
Stephen Deerhake:Quite correct Ben.
Bart Boswinkel:Looking at teh criteria, broader ccTLD community is included
Bart Boswinkel:further soem non-ccnso members know more about the cc`nSO then members
David McAuley:None here
David McAuley:I saw a few typos in our current council election guideline (e.g. “neither” in section 4 probably ought to be “either”) – would be happy to read through again and send some suggested typos and fixes to list
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1iKsEwSYh4BqaMM-5FDyhtHwZfH-2DvejUj5BeiMO5AqK8VA_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=RBZ1NMfsu3ohQmcqmkWv-IKKm8cx2hdv3ce_rsim7m4&s=fyTmksoNmFA_XF6jMP0cvRlSTXEpxANSVBiCzj3JL84&e=
David McAuley:Thanks Katrina, in practice that makes sense - hard to imagine otherwise
David McAuley:Thanks for updated link Alejandra
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:No problem David :)
David McAuley: Agree that dates seem a concern - Call for election late August and then call-for-election plus 11 weeks and 2 days to announce winners - this timeframe seems not to work for seating member at end of Annual meeting
David McAuley:Agree with Katrina
David McAuley:timeline needs to be clearer
David McAuley:have we had self-nominations in past?
Stephen Deerhake:We did?
David McAuley:thanks Katrina - have they been problematic
David McAuley:If we did include them maybe we should require two seconds for a self-nomination
Joke Braeken:Yes, even during the last round. See the report here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_url-3Fq-3Dhttps-3A__ccnso.icann.org_about_elections_special-2Delection-2Dreport-2D31oct16-2Den.pdf-26sa-3DD-26ust-3D1485775811450000-26usg-3DAFQjCNEExN5qPk-2DOnPLTCKMZdr3juzfPwg&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=RBZ1NMfsu3ohQmcqmkWv-IKKm8cx2hdv3ce_rsim7m4&s=07y3k3g6dpjAOjlk0VhUWCFfbUCRi1SmOyKA-VwP_0w&e=
Stephen Deerhake:NA, being so small, basically self-organizes and fills any NA vacancy without the formality of an election. This is because if a candidate is proposed and seconded, they have 3 votes out of 5.
David McAuley:arrrgh - phone battery just died again - on aduio only now
Bart Boswinkel:This is also happening in other regions
martin boyle, Nominet:but loads of self nominations + seconder?
Bart Boswinkel:as well although they have more members
Bart Boswinkel:@ MArin : no slef-nominations + secondmenets
Bart Boswinkel:to date only accepted as candidates: nomination + seconder
martin boyle, Nominet:self nominations still need a seconder?
Bart Boswinkel:(nomination for other ccTLD)
martin boyle, Nominet:if they were accepted
Bart Boswinkel:That is the question for this group
martin boyle, Nominet:but two seconders might be a good way around
Ben Fuller:I agree that a self nomination should then be seconded by another ccTLD
Stephen Deerhake:+1 @Ben
Bart Boswinkel:@ Ben that is always the case
David McAuley:+1 @Ben, @ Stephen
Bart Boswinkel:So mechanisms with self-nomnation + 2 Seconders?
Bart Boswinkel:from region
Ben Fuller:OK Katrina
David McAuley:I like 2 seconds myself, for self-nominations
martin boyle, Nominet:@ David + 1
Stephen Deerhake:@David +1
Ben Fuller:Like the idea David
David McAuley:Such a move in a 3 year term would not be unusual -
Stephen Deerhake:In response to Bart's comment, permit them to complete their term but not stand again?
David McAuley:I would think such a move might not be reason for deselection
martin boyle, Nominet:good idea, Katrina
Stephen Deerhake:Recalling Council members ought to be included.
David McAuley:I like the idea of regional recall in extraordinary circumstances
Stephen Deerhake:(By their region only)
Ben Fuller:Pandora's Box, Katrina? :-)
Katrina Sataki:;-)
David McAuley:That I think would be a problem Bart, where councilor is made to feel he/she represents a particular ccTLD rather than a region
David McAuley:For instance, what is a councilor retires while serving and leaves ccTLD that way - not disqualifying I would think, would not want to lose that person's service
David McAuley:"what if" that is
David McAuley:I would be open to change depending on bylaw, what it allows
David McAuley:to Alejandra's question - it seems the current timeline does not work
David McAuley:good point Bart, the transition period would be important
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:Totally agree on transition period.
David McAuley:Nice suggestion Bart
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:+1 Bart's suggestion to include both paths
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:Travel Funding Guideline: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_15AZSOkOSfbOK5qZdog-5Fc8MP-2DgtHPpSrtZq4UYyDzcdo_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=GKmFfRII4Fu5R2rvaGzd2eqNVicqdIuGnamKqfKpp0hrH9ye_zt36pZ_ZlAuB8NR&m=RBZ1NMfsu3ohQmcqmkWv-IKKm8cx2hdv3ce_rsim7m4&s=uIBfSeYd53HjHOFXl-4YIPEcCsyV1-88JlXU7axNcWI&e=
Joke Braeken:katrina, one comment
Joke Braeken:sorry, i cannot raise my hand
Stephen Deerhake:I don't care but it needs to be harmonized -either fiscal or calendar.
Ben Fuller:I suggest fiscal year so we keep in sync with the budget
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:+1 @Ben
David McAuley:Do we mean something like not more than two consecutive meetings? or two out of any four?
David McAuley:any four consecutive, that is
martin boyle, Nominet:i think i agree with Katrina: there might be reasons why you want someone to attend consecutive meetings
Ben Fuller:Katrina is making a good point. We might want a little wiggle room so we can override any limit if there is a compelling reason
David McAuley:good point Katrina and Ben
Stephen Deerhake:If you have a region where 2 councilors are funded by their (large) registeries, and the 3rd member is from a small registry, why restrict the # of times that 3 councilor is funded per year?
Stephen Deerhake:(This was the case in NA for a year; no longer so)
David McAuley:This is a tricky one as Katrina said earlier
David McAuley:none here
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:nop :)
Stephen Deerhake:None
martin boyle, Nominet:I am away until 18 February without e-mail or Internet access. So I will be very quiet for a change! Please record apologies.
David McAuley:bring your valentines
Kimberly Carlson:13 February @13:00 UTC
Stephen Deerhake:Martin, I hope it is someplace warm...
martin boyle, Nominet:yup
David McAuley:who approved that, Martin
martin boyle, Nominet:I'll try hard
martin boyle, Nominet:to
Kimberly Carlson:Thanks Martin, noted
Ben Fuller:Bye all
Alejandra Reynoso [.gt]:Thank you! Bye
Stephen Deerhake:Bye all
Kimberly Carlson:thanks all bye
David McAuley:Thanks all, good bye
Joke Braeken:thank you all. bye!
Katrina Sataki:Thank you!!! Bye!
Mirjana Tasic .rs:Bye all
