Gisella Gruber:Welcome to the At-Large Review Working Party Meeting #4 on Monday 23 November 2015 at 18:00 UTC

  Gisella Gruber:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/kcJYAw

  Holly Raiche:Good morning all

  Alan Greenberg:No voice yet, but hello

  Alan Greenberg:Ellen is nice too!

  Maureen HILYARD:What committee was that?

  Siranush Vardanyan:hi, all

  Alan Greenberg:Back

  Maureen HILYARD:Perhaps we need 15 minutes at each end of the meeting so we can start on time?

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry this meeting was unconfirmed in my agenda hence I'm having dinner at the same time

  Maureen HILYARD:Sorry.. my quirky sense of humour this hour of the morning

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I'll listen in but am unlikely to be able to speak

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:OCL = 0.5. I might try 0.75

  Holly Raiche:@OCL - enjoy your dinner

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I might speak with a full mouth

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:LOL

  Maureen HILYARD:Oh please no!

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:you'll have to stuff more than just food in my mouth to shut me up :-)

  Ariel Liang:Draft charter can also be downloaded here: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56148625/ALAC%20Review%20Working%20Group%20Charter%20Draft%20Rev1.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1448288121000&api=v2

  Aída Noblia:Hello everyone

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member:Hi Aida

  Alan Greenberg:"a lot of hours" is relative. this will be a piece of cake compared to some of our other endeavours recently (such as CWG/CCWG).

  Larisa Gurnick:In terms of providing an indication of how much time would be involved for Working Party members, it may be useful to look at the work of the GNSO Review Working Party, which was formed in May 2014.

  Larisa Gurnick:https://community.icann.org/display/GR2/Working+Party+Meetings - listing of meetings of the GNSO Review Working Party

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member:ALAC also sets or approves all our Charters

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member:indeed Alan a lot to you, OCL and even me is  rather different

  Siranush Vardanyan:thanks for clarifications

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member: re the hours though I would propose the X  factor on time be replaced with  "an expectation for at least  weekly meetings

  Alan Greenberg:It is not a requirement of the At-Large Community. It is a fact of live.

  Alan Greenberg:Diversity, that is.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member:so. experience with volunteerism and further assessment experience of voluntary 'workforces'

  Maureen HILYARD:I think volunteerism is a very important issue if they are looking at At Large..

  Alan Greenberg:We have a hard stop in 20 minutes.

  Terri Agnew:checking for line

  Aída Noblia:lo que quería decir es que estoy de acuerdo con lo que se ha dicho. No me funcionó el audio

  Wolf Ludwig:Strange noice in the call ...

  Gisella Gruber:Sorry that was Aida\s lie

  Gisella Gruber:line

  Wolf Ludwig:Uff -- glad that it wasn't mine ;-)

  Aída Noblia:solo que estoy de acuerdo, no tengo audio

  Aída Noblia:Me parece que está bien que haya una referencia en los Estatutos a esto último que se plantea,

  Wolf Ludwig:This factor is absolutely crucial!

  Larisa Gurnick:In terms of who the IE should interview, at this point, what we need is an approximate count of interviews

  Wolf Ludwig:Imprtant question: What are the handicaps for little ALAC engagement by many ALSes?

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member:agree with you Alan

  Maureen HILYARD:What about some ALSes who are no longer members? why did they leave? Do we have exit procedures?

  Wolf Ludwig:Those ALSes which were decertified by / at EURALO couldn't give you much infos -- as they were *never* involved ...

  Maureen HILYARD:The survey should match the questions that we are including in our Charter

  Maureen HILYARD:@Wolf - it seems so strange that someone goes through that long process and then doesn't get involved at all..

  Maureen HILYARD:Its one of the reasons we suggested that people should have a pre-registration workshop/webinar to learn about what the expectations are

  Wolf Ludwig:That's strange indeed but was the case for 3 out of 4 ALSes decertified.

  Siranush Vardanyan:agree with Wolf and that wascthe reason why they were dissaffiliated. so not too much can be expected from them

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member:agree with you Wolf

  Maureen HILYARD:@Wolf.. we might discover that the ALS had locally been derigistered..

  Larisa Gurnick:Ideally, it would be useful for IE to contact ALSes that are no longer a part of the structure, to get their perspective.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member:and the issues can be eased out via interview with Leadership of RALOs like you

  Larisa Gurnick:@Wolf - thank you - useful observation

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member:thanks everyone talk again soon no doubt...

  Siranush Vardanyan:thanks all and bye for now

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member:bye for now...

  Larisa Gurnick:Thank you all for taking time to provide this useful feedback

  Aída Noblia:Thanks everyone . Bye all

  Maureen HILYARD:Thanks everyone

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC APRegional Member:bye

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