11:56:16 From Joly MacFie to Everyone:
I don't see language option in zoom?
11:56:32 From Joly MacFie to Everyone:
Maybe it only works in adigo?
11:56:51 From Gerardo Martínez Hernández to Everyone:
Hola saludos a todos desde Aguascalientes, México
11:58:32 From Sébastien Bachollet to Everyone:
Hola Gerardo, estamos muy contento que estas con nosotros
11:59:52 From Steve Clement to Everyone:
Welcome from Luxembourg.
12:01:19 From Gerardo Martínez Hernández to Everyone:
Gracias a todos
12:02:14 From Gerardo Martínez Hernández to Everyone:
Gracias Sebastien
12:05:25 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Hello from the French audio channel
12:05:35 From Frank Anati to Everyone:
hi everyone Frank Anati from Ghana https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-anati
12:05:49 From Frank Anati to Everyone:
nice to meet you all
12:11:58 From Hans Bathija to Everyone:
Bonjour tout le monde. Great to join you all from Toronto. - Hans, CyAN
12:14:37 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
Greetings. - Dr. T V Gopal, Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, College of Engineering, Guindy Campus, Anna University , Chennai, INDIA.
12:27:44 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
It is thoughtful of the French legal framework to recognize "abuse of the few should not be blamed on everyone" as an important priciple --- thoughtful of the framework to search for a balance
12:29:25 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Joining the English channel now :-)
12:31:25 From Sébastien Bachollet to Everyone:
Welcome Lucien
12:32:29 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Hope that was a good use case of using interpretation :-)
12:33:05 From Steve Clement to Everyone:
Thank you J-C
12:37:40 From Marc Daron to Everyone:
Indeed Jean Christophe
12:37:53 From Marc Daron to Everyone:
Most excellent presentation Lucien, the French system is quite interesting and the historical background allows for a better understanding of current debates!
12:38:24 From Marc Daron to Everyone:
Do you have pointer about the French case law (French or English)?
12:38:33 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Thanks!
12:38:35 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Sure thing
12:40:42 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
For example here: https://www.conseil-constitutionnel.fr/decision/2018/2018696QPC.htm
12:43:07 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Quite a tricky resolution indeed :-)
12:43:31 From Sébastien Bachollet to Everyone:
First doc 5 Eyes
12:43:33 From Sébastien Bachollet to Everyone:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/international-statement-end-end-encryption-and-public-safety
12:46:40 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
Encryption has always been a tradeoff between "User Privacy" and "National Security". What are the provisions based on French National Security on encryption ? - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, INDIA
12:47:40 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Also @Marc and all, the Wassenaar Arrangement is quite interesting
12:48:04 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
dual-use goods and technologies witch includes encryption ;-)
12:48:56 From Steve Clement to Everyone:
Trade-off indeed. But the speed at which information spreads is often not considered and really difficult to factor in.
12:50:39 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Sure
12:52:29 From Greg Mounier to Everyone:
Should we regulate the practice of lawful hacking and the process of finding vulnerabilities and developing exploits?
12:53:44 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
<question> Rather than attempt to maintain positions as close to the extremes of "Encryption" and "No Encryption" as a technology decision, why don't we try and find a balance by entrusting encryption to trusted providers, trusted by users, with the providers instituting a responsive system to unveil encryption in situations of extreme harm and in real emergencies but maintain truthful to the need to encryption?
12:54:43 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
Comment: Thank you Lucien & Jean. The National Security concerns have been very intriguing even for Password Protection. I suppose each nation takes a call on this. Currently, at least Passwords have become easier on this. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, INDIA
12:54:44 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
... that would be an approach distinct from the present law and order position that all encryption should be designed to be breakable.
12:55:19 From Steve Clement to Everyone:
In the US the industrial military complex is a historical fact. A lot of business is based around it. The very same will (and is) happening around the topic at hand
12:55:38 From Steve Clement to Everyone:
Sorry, still no question ;)
12:56:15 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
... would that be a governance solution to the encryption conundrum?
12:56:50 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Indeed, quite important
12:57:53 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
What we call in France, les “moyens de l'État soumis au secret de la défense nationale”
12:58:21 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Basically hacking in
12:58:39 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
The key is strict scrutiny
13:03:04 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
... <supplementary, or a clarification> The idea expressed is that such a trusted entity (not a person, but a balanced group of persons entrusted to keys) would guard the encryption keys and algorithm, and not weaken the encryption by wide open back doors, or by disclosure of keys in a manner that affects all parties, but in situations truly warranted ('warrant' in a legal sense), the trusted provider would decrypt that specific data segment of that dangerous communication from the malignant person, and still preserve the encryption environment for all users (sorry, my hand was lowered because my phone with microphone powered down)
13:03:32 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
... entrusted with the keys) ....
13:04:12 From Sivasubramanian M to Everyone:
('warrant' NOT in a legal sense)...
13:05:20 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Different legal grounds. In France for example article 434-15-2 of the French Penal Code
13:06:52 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
On providers, article L. 871-1 French Code de la sécurité intérieure : obligation to cooperate (decrypt if possible)
13:08:33 From Marc Daron to Everyone:
Thanks! So the can’t do option :-)
13:10:10 From Steve Clement to Everyone:
My first reflex, because I got raided at 6am, was: I forgot my password.
13:10:44 From Steve Clement to Everyone:
Which raised eyebrows, but they were 2 coffees ahead ;)
13:12:43 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
Thank you Steve for the experience sharing. One justification is to project "password" as a way of tracking the user in a multi-user environment in addition to "protection and security". Are such justifications legal in France? - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, INDIA.
13:12:53 From Laxmi Prasad Yadav to Everyone:
hello everyone. sorry 4 delay. it is too late night 1:: AM in Nepal
13:13:01 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Lively chat indeed. Only 8pm here in Paris :-)
13:13:43 From Hans Bathija to Everyone:
C'était un plaisir vous rejoindre.
13:13:59 From Steve Clement to Everyone:
Au plaisir.
13:15:10 From Olivier Crépin-Leblond to Everyone:
+1 Lucien - well said
13:15:51 From Marc Daron to Everyone:
Quite true Lucien !
13:16:26 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
Lucien: In India it is the other side of midnight now. Thank you for a very refreshing presentation. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, INDIA
13:16:29 From Marc Daron to Everyone:
Excellent speakers and moderation tonight. Merci to Euralo !
13:16:52 From Olévié Kouami to Everyone:
THank you very much
13:17:01 From Olévié Kouami to Everyone:
Merci infiniment
13:17:03 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Do not hesitate to drop me a line castex@afnic.fr
13:17:11 From Marc Daron to Everyone:
Will do.
13:17:29 From maureen hilyard to Everyone:
Great speakers and moderation by Pari. Interesting presentations by these experts. Thank you EURALO
13:17:47 From Olévié Kouami to Everyone:
Kudos EURALO !
13:17:56 From Robert Nkambwe to Everyone:
thanks for such informative presentations - Robert from Uganda
13:18:05 From Olévié Kouami to Everyone:
Olévié from Sénégal
13:18:36 From Olévié Kouami to Everyone:
Merci Sebastien
13:18:53 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Hopefully! Looking forward to next f2f ICANN :-)
13:19:17 From Olévié Kouami to Everyone:
Merci Jean-Christophe et Lucien.
13:19:27 From Olévié Kouami to Everyone:
Merci Pari
13:19:38 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Merci Pari pour une excellente modération :-)
13:19:55 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone:
Thank you Sebastian and EURALO. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University, INDIA
13:20:07 From Andrea Beccalli to Everyone:
Congrats for a great session!
13:20:13 From Natalia Filina to Everyone:
Thank you all for this MRT8! Sebastien we like all EURALO events a lot!-)
13:20:33 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Thank you all so very much for joining today’s EURALO Roundtable!
13:20:38 From Lucien CASTEX to Everyone:
Will be an excellent way to engage the community to have it integrated within Zoom
13:20:39 From Olévié Kouami to Everyone:
Hope to meet you all in ICANN hybrid meeting in June in The Hague
13:20:41 From Pari Esfandiari to Everyone:
Thank you everyone, specially our great speakers Merci Jean-Christophe et Lucien and to MERCI Sebastien.
13:20:43 From Robert Castonguay to Everyone:
Merci à tous
13:20:47 From Jean-Christophe Le Toquin to Everyone:
Great honor for Encryption Europe to be invited, thank you !
13:20:51 From ADAM PEAKE to Everyone:
Thank you everyone
13:20:53 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone:
Thank you
13:20:54 From Olévié Kouami to Everyone:
Ciao !
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