Desiree Cabrera: Today's agenda can also be found at https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/CCWG+on+IG+Teleconference+-+2016.05.18
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: Action Items from our last call: https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/CCWG+on+IG+Teleconference+-+2016.04.29+-+Action+Items
Gangesh Varma: yes
marilyn Cade: apologies to be late but am now online
matthew shears: + 1 marilyn on using the presentation segment
marilyn Cade: The NRIs would welcome this video as a factual briefing.
Young-eum: +1 especially on the Youtube presentation
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: I am sorry I was dropped
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: back
NIGEL HICKSON: @Marilyn - thanks
NIGEL HICKSON: Kluas, Marilyn and I - was good fun
marilyn Cade: yes - Klaus, Nigel, Marilyn, Lori, probably others that I am missing..
marilyn Cade: CSTD report should be seen as having two parallel issues
matthew shears: would be useful to understand the linkages between the WSIS resolution and the related rsolution worked on in the CSTD
marilyn Cade: STIs are critically important and should not be dismised
marilyn Cade: welcome having some govts who were also at the CSTD
NIGEL HICKSON: see meeting details at http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=1048
matthew shears: yes, there is no place for exhaustion
Avri Doria: Commenters are only allowed after all others have spoken, which is often tooo late to change anything.
NIGEL HICKSON: The Group is open to all MS as "Observers" but there is a difference in status between member and non-members.
marilyn Cade: To Matthew comment: never leave the field
marilyn Cade: And also, there is an effort to try to have open attendance, and transcripts and webcasting
Avri Doria: but still sperate tracks.
marilyn Cade: Nigel: while I hear you, I personally find that there is little difference in status of all who attend.
Avri Doria: so still a fools errand?
marilyn Cade: We need to show up, however, and not be negative in my personal view.
Avri Doria: of course no, we need to postive, smile nicely and hope they give us some crumbs.
marilyn Cade: Last WG documented what the status was, but that was to do a gap analysis. Might be history. starting over
matthew shears: i don't think that we should be revinenting the mapping - perhapos taking it forward or shifting the discussion to more productive and useful discussion of EC
Young-eum: will use text.
marilyn Cade: I appreciate that the CCWG-IG is following, but wonder if we might even plan for a more detailed briefing, as the WG gets started -- so future?
marilyn Cade: Matthew, exactly
Avri Doria: dont get me wrong. i was a fool last time. and owuld have been a fool again if acceptad. but as long as it remians on seperate tracks, it will go around in circles.
marilyn Cade: There was also language about IGF
Young-eum: I'm just wondering if the composition of the members of this group
Avri Doria: One can be postive about a resolutuon but be critical of parts of that resolution at the same time.
Young-eum: is any different from the previous group, and if this is the reason why Marilyn is more concerned.
Avri Doria: We stakeholders are not part of deciding on this reslutions, so they are something we are entitled to be somewhat critical of.
matthew shears: observers played a key role last time - agree with their importance
marilyn Cade: yes, to Matthew, while not a member, we did listen to observers.
Paul Blaker: http://unctad.org/Sections/un_cstd/docs/CSTD_2016_WorkingGroup_en.pdf
marilyn Cade: and in fact, they are quite important.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: That's great @Paul - thank you
Paul Blaker: this is the link to the composition of the Working Group
marilyn Cade: I appreciate this, as I was sitting in the room, and thankfully, govts were listening and even welcoming, but we were not yet allowed as full speakers.
marilyn Cade: but ICANN is not more important than other entities, such as IEEE, or ISOC, or business speakers, or APC..
Avri Doria: of coure not, it was an example!
Timea Suto: Thank you Olivier, I have some technical diffculties so can't connect to speak
marilyn Cade: It is unfortunate that not everyone was able to stay until the full end, but Nigel and I were there utntil the end...
marilyn Cade: May I
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: @Timea: no problem. Feel free to type comments here too
marilyn Cade: not draft, but approved by ECOSOC in July.
marilyn Cade: I will need to recuse myself as I am a MAG member, and I see that also ICC-BASIS and a few others are MAG members, so we need to recuse ourselves.
marilyn Cade: Dec 6-10
Avri Doria: also recused, but one role MAG members do have is being able to advise on elements, if asked.
marilyn Cade: Yes, to Avri's comment. I agree that a session is useful, but cannot contribute
Avri Doria: you can have up to 3 proposals.
Avri Doria: and ater there will opportunities fro things such as fflash sessions &c.
Avri Doria: the call for those thingies comes out later, if i am rembering correctly.
matthew shears: have to drop apologies
Young-eum: Agree with post transition ICANN IGF session.
marilyn Cade: dropping off but I did see Timea posting. did her comments get included?
Timea Suto: @Marilyn, was just sharing the dates for IGF, but you were faster :)
marilyn Cade: One comment: the MAG meets later today and personlly, I am not suporting an extension in workshops, so urge awareness of the deaddline
marilyn Cade: re WTSA 2016: ICANN Hydebad? is that public announcement of change for location of ICANN 57?
marilyn Cade: I agree with Paul's comments about WTSA2016.
Alan Greenberg: Have another call. bye
marilyn Cade: each region has a consultion process, perhaps we should send members off to their regional consultations.
marilyn Cade: Nigel, if we send members of CCWG IG to their governments to ask to join the regional preps?
Paul Blaker: http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/wtsa16/prepmeet/Pages/default.aspx
Paul Blaker: This is the list of regional prep meetings
Olivier Crepin-Leblond: Thansk Paul
marilyn Cade: engaging with individual govts is essential.
Ffion Thomas: Mailyn, I agree, it would be helpful to have more people at the various regional meetings.
marilyn Cade: but each govt can share with their own stakeholders.
Sam Lanfranco: The WTSA this fall ends the day ICANN Helsinki starts!!!
Avri Doria: bye
Gangesh Varma: thanks all.
Timea Suto: Thank you all! Goodbye!
