Sub-group Members: Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Jorge Villa, Kavouss Arasteh, Sebastien Bachollet, Stephen Deerhake, Steve DelBianco
ICANN organization: Nathalie Vergnolle, Yvette Guigneaux (Captioning - Bonnie & Jamie)
Apologies: Alan Greenberg, Greg Shatan, Herb Waye
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0. Call Admin and Roll Call / Apologies (2min-CLO) Apologies
1. Welcome-Opening Remarks: Our aim and purpose for today's call (3-5 min-CLO)
2. Review (brief) of last meeting records here and any Action Items (5-10 min- SDB, FB)
- SDB and FB to update document per comments for next meeting.
Refer our Google Doc and any list interaction on changes to draft text.
3. Primary Agenda Item - Discussion (25-35 min FB, CLO)
- Based upon the finalisation of our review of Public Comment documentation, this meeting will begin the consideration of any amendments to our recommendations and Final Report for CCWG consideration in September Plenary
Please see this Document[docs.google.com] for reference on this item (to be displayed in the call)
4. Next Steps. Standing Item - (5 min- CLO)
- · - CCWG still need to FINALLY determine if any changes to our report are significant or not.
- If significant changes are recommended, CCWG-Accountability WS2 may require a second public consultation. We however do *not* believe this will be the case.
- If changes are (as we predict) not significant, CCWG-Accountability WS2 can forward final recommendations to Chartering Organizations for approval, and then to the ICANN Board for consideration and adoption. Noting the timeline and Key milestone dates:- This will require that we lodge or Final Report by Sept 20th for consideration by the CCWG Plenary at our meeting on September 27th.
5. AOB / Meeting Schedule (5 min- CLO)
September Dates: (if required)
- Thursday 7th @ 1300 UTC
- Thursday 14th @1900 UTC
Raw Captioning Notes
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Yvette Guigneaux: (8/30/2017 21:34) Hi All and welcome to the SOAC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #31 | 31 Aug 2017 @ 05:00 UTC!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:46) Hi Yvette, Hi Jamie
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:47) hi there Cheryl, how are you?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:47) Weary, (more thn usual it seems
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:47) but never mind
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:48) we still need to dial out to you yes?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:48) Bonnie when I get into the audio link (YES lpease Yvette) I want to make sure sme minor BG noise is not interfeering with your ability t hear me clearly
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:49) Hello Kavouss
Bonnie-CART: (21:50) Hi, Cheryl! Ready to test when you are.
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:50) Hello commander in chief
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:50) I can auto dial now Yvette One moment we can test my audio
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:52) Commander, here we are still in sleeping mode
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:52) Sleeping mode would be a luxury Kavouss
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:52) good to go on audio Cheryl
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:52) Kavouss - we are dialing out to you right now
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:52) and good day to you as well
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:53) No a young "assistant" my 27m old granddaughter
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:53) Having you piloting the operation ,every one would be in luxtrzuy condition
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:54) LO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:54) LOL
Kavouss Arasteh: (21:54) Sorry luxtrury
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:54) I understood
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:57) Welcome Seb I was worried only Kavouss and I had arrived
Sebastien (ALAC): (21:57) Hello Cheryl
Sebastien (ALAC): (21:58) I will not complain about the timing to you (it is usaly worse for you than for me) but it is early in Europe
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:59) I appreciate the effort
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:59) Phew STeve gld your hear
Sebastien (ALAC): (21:59) Hello Kavous
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:59) here
Kavouss Arasteh: (22:00) nOT AT ALL Ssebastiien, It is not awlways worse or her? why worse , give an example of that worse time
Steve DelBianco: (22:00) Natalie and Yvetter -- do you have the redline PDF I circulated yesterday?
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:00) yes - i believe its uploaded to the room
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:01) this one work Steve?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:01) perfect :-)
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:01) yay, ok
Steve DelBianco: (22:01) Yes, Yvette.
Kavouss Arasteh: (22:01) Pls count me once as there are Kavouss and kavouss 2 ,However, currently there is coulooning possible for human being
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:01) ok Steve, we're good to go
Steve DelBianco: (22:02) Kavouss has cloned himself?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:02) One is the AC and the other the phine dial out, I am only counting 1 of you
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:02) will do Kavouss
Kavouss Arasteh: (22:03) Dear Chyril you can decide to go but we are only 4 apart from co rapporteurs
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:08) Today will be a 'read through of the few instances of uodates agreed to be made to the report
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:08) YES please excellent
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:08) on screen
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:08) scrolling available
Kavouss Arasteh: (22:09) Steve, may we go to changes of non editorial nature
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:09) Most of the edits you see in this redline are of course only formatting but we will go through the non format edits yes Kavouss
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:11) Sebastien has a hand up
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:12) new para point of clarification
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:12) end of page 3
Kavouss Arasteh: (22:12) Steve, If I roperly understood you , you said could or should, but could is an ability term wile should is a moral/optional obligation
Steve DelBianco: (22:13) Agree with your distinction, Kavouss.
Steve DelBianco: (22:13) our recommendation is "could"
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:14) ASO does need to be considered here as we have discovered in other WT's of course
Stephen Deerhake (.as): (22:21) On Page 5, "ccNSO (Country Code Names Supporting Committee)" should read "ccNSO (Country Code Names Supporting Organization)" We are not a "Committee")
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:21) GOOD catch Thx Stephen
Stephen Deerhake (.as): (22:21) DItto for GNSO description. They are an "Organization", not a "Committee".
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:22) not sure why that got missed
Sebastien (ALAC): (22:22) Yes Stephen both ccNSO and gNSO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:25) Alan regrets being unable to attend this call but will be reviewing the records on his tomorrow
Steve DelBianco: (22:30) thank you, Stephen. Any other places in addition to p.5?
Stephen Deerhake (.as): (22:32) I'm looking... P10 under ccNSO:
Stephen Deerhake (.as): (22:32) Unwritten" looks problematic....
Steve DelBianco: (22:38) the term "unwritten" appears for each AC/SO/Group, to reflect what we heard about practices that are not documented.
Kavouss Arasteh: (22:40) Yes, if it will be clarified as you mentioned I have no problem but it should indicated by us to the PLENARY
Steve DelBianco: (22:40) I have made the two corrections to "committee" in our draft plenary report
Steve DelBianco: (22:45) We will make that point when communicating our report to the plenary, Kavouss
Kavouss Arasteh: (22:45) if you remember to raise it in a clear manner I have no problem$
Stephen Deerhake (.as): (22:45) CLO, if I get a pointer to the document to review, I will do so for you...
Stephen Deerhake (.as): (22:46) 10-4.
Stephen Deerhake (.as): (22:46) Thank you.
Sebastien (ALAC): (22:46) Thanks Cheryl and Steve and all the participants
Kavouss Arasteh: (22:47) pls confirm that you will raise the point that I MADE AND YOU AGREED TO THE PLENARY
Steve DelBianco: (22:49) Agreed, Kavouss
Stephen Deerhake (.as): (22:49) Good bye all. Thank you Cheryl and Steve.
Steve DelBianco: (22:49) Doc is at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1sT6SscZLT7VK2rVFOMPaiK1Qd8vlVLkm0boRX7I8ru0_edit-23&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=xjNMRR-fjlgBx7tqUEv8lZv2O9RJyMyqWkymcecegCUuwDxFVsW6VBuvkqKnS_lk&m=xH-QjdbwUoRmaxYazbgpOJB_0nIVedCpt9knwUNJ5xs&s=H25UpU1oA2Qe6o7vPW0nSbUHP9914CYDWDkk_4WBxVg&e=
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:49) THanks everyone!
Yvette Guigneaux: (22:49) copy that, thank you Steve
Bonnie-CART: (22:49) Thank you!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:49) Bye for now...
Stephen Deerhake (.as): (22:49) Thank you Steve... Will review... and get back to you.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (22:50) Thanks Stephen appreciate that...
Stephen Deerhake (.as): (22:50) Fresh eyes and all that ... ;-)