Evin Erdogdu:Welcome to the At-Large Regional Leadership Special Purpose Call: At-Large Review & RALO Input on Thursday, 23 February 2017 from 18:00 UTC - 19:00 UTC.
Evin Erdogdu:Hello all, we experience some meeting audio technical issues earlier today. Kind reminder to please ensure your audio is enabled on both the bridge and in the AC Room. Thank you!
Silvia Vivanco:Hello all
Maritza Aguero:Hello all!!!
Evin Erdogdu:Hello, welcome!
Javier Rúa-Jovet:Hello to all!
Evin Erdogdu:hello and welcome!
Glenn McKnight:hi
Evin Erdogdu:Hello Glenn!
Glenn McKnight:over and out
Glenn McKnight:did you hear me
Evin Erdogdu:Fantastic :)
Glenn McKnight:great
Glenn McKnight:great\
vanda scartezini:hi all
Glenn McKnight:Glenn and Javier are here
Glenn McKnight:NARALO
vanda scartezini:from LAC region too here
Glenn McKnight:actually Alan too from NARALO
Heidi Ullrich:Greetings, All
Glenn McKnight:hi Heidi. I just sent you an email request
Heidi Ullrich:Will look for it, Glenn
Evin Erdogdu:Public Comment page on the Draft Report: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2Dcomments_atlarge-2Dreview-2Ddraft-2Dreport-2D2017-2D02-2D01-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=iUr3oPJHHLDQESJfbWE8sKHjqGB5UA7aFNzqXGrmjn4&s=SlEB-oH5w2OQvPTVQEBAkVP15vxPYfyCDpWHwEfW4gk&e=
Glenn McKnight:hard to hear Holly
Glenn McKnight:My volume is on high
Evin Erdogdu:Noted
Glenn McKnight:Oliver is fine but holly was low
Glenn McKnight:@alan +1
Glenn McKnight:The one thing that is consistent with the report was it's inconsistency
Glenn McKnight:One had they criticize 'revolving seats" but also suggest a elder mentors
Alberto Soto: Sorry to be late...
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_ALRW_At-2DLarge-2BReview-2BWorking-2BParty&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=iUr3oPJHHLDQESJfbWE8sKHjqGB5UA7aFNzqXGrmjn4&s=SGl4O4z8jNxAisUM2thGH1wVNsAXye_1DUbMlqUzf2k&e= has your members on the At-Large Review Woring Party
Evin Erdogdu:Welcome Alberto! Thank you for the link, Olivier.
Alberto Soto:Thanks Evin!
Evin Erdogdu:Review of the ICANN At-Large Community - Draft Report for Public Comment: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_EpLRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=iUr3oPJHHLDQESJfbWE8sKHjqGB5UA7aFNzqXGrmjn4&s=Nc5GL7kMzhgYojzHzUuIt9EOvaMVPSBhw99Eov9YUJ4&e=
Evin Erdogdu:Alan's draft now on screen.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thx OCL the Review WP is an asset and resource, you should use... Also they have been working hard, so appreciate them...
Ariel Liang:You may download Alan's draft on the wiki here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_KJjRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=iUr3oPJHHLDQESJfbWE8sKHjqGB5UA7aFNzqXGrmjn4&s=yf0kISgqOJyaqwYMEAHzBlPtQb_VYm943u1HRzHvIBs&e=
Maritza Aguero:Thanks Ariel!
Javier Rúa-Jovet:ALan's 1st draft is good
Heidi Ullrich:It might be easier to draft responses recommendation by recommendation. Following this, a document can be prepared that includes headings, etc.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Also we need to think about how these inputs may be used in our future activities with Board and Implementation
Holly Raiche:@ Heidi - I keep saying that - apart from the recommendations, there are 'implementations' - 12 of them ,plus other statements. Just responding to the recommendations is not good enough
Holly Raiche:@ Cheryl - one of my weekend tasks will be to highlight recommendations for us in future
Glenn McKnight:Alan they misunderstood alot. I don't see my comments anywhere. I met with Tom numerous times. Gave him questions on the WG and it was like it was guided by an invisible hand
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Holly: the RALO response includes the Recommendations & the implementation questions and responds to all of them
Glenn McKnight:@oliver has other RALO leaders beside you and me responded
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):or isolated individual ( dare I suggest vindictive) opinion
Holly Raiche:@ OCL - which is great - thanks
Javier Rúa-Jovet:goes to each one
Heidi Ullrich:@Holly, I agree, the Google doc covers both recs and implemenation. However, they are in order.
Glenn McKnight:@ cheryl i think alot of poison pen was in this document which isn't balanced. As Abe Lincoln said " You can't please all the people all the time" but the report focused on the negative
Maritza Aguero:Evin please can you reconect Humberto, please?
Evin Erdogdu:Yes, noted.
Alan Greenberg:The exact form of our document is FAR less important than making sure we address all issues.
Evin Erdogdu:They are dialing him now.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes Glenn, and one expects such negative anecdotes as we go through reviews, but I am concerned that some sort of Quantification is presented from such qualitative input that is in itself not ratified
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):or balanced
vanda scartezini:agree in some way with Glenn, there are several positive points in this general proposal. I am working on some points
vanda scartezini:ok Olivier
Evin Erdogdu:Everyone should be able to scroll the document.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:If anyone has comments and concerns -- please wirte them here or put your hand up
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:everyone on the call should be able to scroll
Holly Raiche:The one thing that was clear was that ITEMS did not reallise the outreach we already do - and an action item should be for EACH RALO to document their outreach/events activities which could be in an appendix - just to say we already do this
Glenn McKnight:Its because they didn't speak to the Outreach and Engagement WG
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Alan's draft is on: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_2lPj6vQ&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=iUr3oPJHHLDQESJfbWE8sKHjqGB5UA7aFNzqXGrmjn4&s=9uVVyaWSAbCglmIs5tthFMaInjsGxhqm6EVnYrNmC8s&e=
Evin Erdogdu:And Alan's draft on the wikispace: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_KJjRAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=iUr3oPJHHLDQESJfbWE8sKHjqGB5UA7aFNzqXGrmjn4&s=yf0kISgqOJyaqwYMEAHzBlPtQb_VYm943u1HRzHvIBs&e=
vanda scartezini:this is lack of knowledge of process Alan
Heidi Ullrich:+1 Cheryl. ISOC and At-Large could have meetings relatively easily at ICANN Meetings
vanda scartezini:we had many times but this does not mean we align our points , we exchange ideas and knowledge
Alberto Soto:I agree Alan!! is very importan the concept
vanda scartezini:I can agree with focus on general WG then in regional ones, but need people to be connected with Ralos and report to Ralos too
Glenn McKnight:obvious
vanda scartezini:then= than
Glenn McKnight:Slack has been tested and NARALO is using SLACK on the updates to Rules of Procedure
Glenn McKnight:updates
vanda scartezini:most relevant on ATLAS is to exahnge views from different cultural points of ciew and work to get consensus and have conclusion that will help users around the world
vanda scartezini:sorry typos....
vanda scartezini:alan again lack of knowledge of processes inside ICANN from ITEMS
Glenn McKnight:Did these jokers get paid for this review? How much?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Glenn yes it is a contractor relationship... The cost of contract should be reported somewhere I assume
Evin Erdogdu:Google Doc for RALO Response: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_12D8Ofqhm5GmbnGu9X4OSNU2yG-2DPKH9E0xSfWYBDI8hc_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=iUr3oPJHHLDQESJfbWE8sKHjqGB5UA7aFNzqXGrmjn4&s=S7951Vg2Oz9m133okFZc9bv3X-8jmURkZF9KgeSWMFE&e=
Alan Greenberg:Just realized that the Table of Contents in the doc was not updated.
Ariel Liang:oops Evin beat me ;)
Glenn McKnight:I like to see the other RALO's comment
Evin Erdogdu:;)
vanda scartezini:imrpessive Ariel!! never happens !!!
vanda scartezini:me too Glenn.
Glenn McKnight:I dont think silence is an option from the RALO's
vanda scartezini:from LAC the trasnaltion was the reason to not have it finished
Glenn McKnight:No excuses. Vanda.
Glenn McKnight:We started the comments. They just need to take some time read and comment
vanda scartezini:i made mine many weeks ago but i do udnerstand lots of ALS has no conditions to read in english
Glenn McKnight:@alan they are loading alot on a few people unrealistic
Sarah Kiden:Agree with Vanda about the language
Maritza Aguero:LACRALO has started a WG so languaje would not be a problem
Glenn McKnight:The lack of all the RALO's commenting says alot, it's not positive
Alberto Soto:We'll do it Glenn, we're a bit late ...
Glenn McKnight:@alberto thanks
Alberto Soto:The money for the management??
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):delighted to see Metrics still supported and getting on future Agendas... :-)
Maritza Aguero:What is the deadline for comments, please?
Maritza Aguero:Forget about my question. Holly clarified already. Thanks.
Glenn McKnight:My comment is that the RALO document doesn't much different that the ALAC responses.
Glenn McKnight:I know some of the Bad Attitude members of the community may not agree with our comments
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thanks for holding this call, greatly appreciate these RALO efforts...
vanda scartezini:yes Olivier thanks
Alberto Soto:Thanks, bye all!!
Sarah Kiden:Thank you!
Glenn McKnight:bye all
vanda scartezini:thanks to all for aprticipating.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye
Maritza Aguero:bye
Evin Erdogdu:Goodbye!
