Sub-group Members: Avri Doria, Chris Disspain, David McAuley, Greg Shatan, Kate Wallace, Liz Le, Malcolm Hutty, Marianne Georgelin, Samantha Eisner, Sarah Podmaniczky McGonigle (11)
Staff: Bernard Turcotte, Brenda Brewer
Apologies: Kavouss Arasteh
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **
Transcript
Recording
Notes (including relevant portions of chat)
1. Introduction/Roll/SOI
2. Discussion re Timing issue
David McAuley: Here is link to Kathy Kleiman blog: http://www.circleid.com/posts/20170110_fairness_due_process_require_changes_to_icann_supplementary_irp/
David McAuley: And here is link to Milton’s blog: http://www.internetgovernance.org/2017/01/07/putting-your-rights-on-the-clock-the-irp-supplementary-rules/?utm_source=feedb
David McAuley: How we can proceed going forward - 3 main tasks in what is now more of an operational role. Two main dates for us 25 January as the closing date of the public consultation and March 10 to report to the plenary on our progress. Have asked staff to look at meeting dates. There is no need to meet on the phone until a few weeks after the PC closes.
Greg Shatan: Logistical Week of February 13th is the meeting on the non-contracted parties in Reykjavik. Substantive point if the public comment is closing on the 25th why wait a month? We need to get into this ASAP.
David McAuley: I believe there will be two main issues from the public consultation - Timing and Joinder of Parties. Let us book a meeting on1900 Thursday 9 February 2017 and cancel the 27 January IRP-IOT meeting (Action Item for Staff).
Malcolm Hutty: We will either accept the Sidley proposal or amend it. Sidley's evaluation that our proposal did not do what we expected and that this was inconsistent with the Bylaws. I would be ok with their proposal but want to wait to see the comments.
David McAuley: MH do you plan to put in a comment?
Malcolm Hutty: I will but it will now be much shorter considering the Sidley response.
David McAuley: Any other comments on the timing issue.
Samantha Eisner: We are looking at the Sidley response and we will be commenting on this given we may be talking past each other on the timing issue.
Greg Shatan: The IPC comment is primarily about how the timing interacts with other procedures especially when it becomes clear an IRP may be filed. It may be more about procedure than rules. Also, unclear how this interacts with the CEP. Unclear how timing would work with the rules for the Empowered Community which could be incompatible.
David McAuley: Re CEP RySG should make a similar comment.
3. Draft information letters to SOs/ACs and PTI customers
David McAuley:Now draft letters to SOACs? Any questions? (none) will proceed with these.
Greg Shatan: Want to avoid giving the impression that the work is all done. May want to add a sentence to clarify we are working in parallel.
David McAuley: Agree, will do and circulate to the group for approval (Action Item for DM).
4. Comments forum (https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-irp-supp-procedures-28nov16/[forum.icann.org])
David McAuley: Kathy Kleiman will be providing a comment based on her blog. Would encourage everyone to keep abreast of the submissions in the comment forum.
5. IRP IOT next meetings - 19:00 UTC Thursday 9 February.
6. AOB
David McAuley: No AOB - Adjourned.
Summary of Action Items:
- Staff to cancel IRPIOT meeting of 1300 27 January 2017 and schedule Thursday 1900 9 February 2017.
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer: (1/13/2017 06:34) Welcome all to the IRP-IOT Meeting #13 on 13 January 2017 @ 13:00 UTC!
David McAuley: (06:58) Hi Brenda, I am 4154
David McAuley: (06:58) Hello all (small all so far)
Marianne Georgelin (Afnic): (06:59) :)
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (06:59) hello all
David McAuley: (06:59) Thanks Bernie and Brenda for agenda slide - I was a bit forgetful
David McAuley: (07:00) Let’s allow two more minutes for folks to arrive – will start at 13:02 UTC
Brenda Brewer: (07:00) Thank you David!
David McAuley: (07:00) I meant to put links to two rules-related blogs in a slide but will post them here in chat instead.
David McAuley: (07:00) Here is link to Kathy Kleiman blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.circleid.com_posts_20170110-5Ffairness-5Fdue-5Fprocess-5Frequire-5Fchanges-5Fto-5Ficann-5Fsupplementary-5Firp_&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=kbiQDH54980u4nTPfwdloDLY6-6F24x0ArAvhdeDvvc&m=_u0SncGIevgmslM1fpKCLTGh4Z0GJd2kKMhBY_yvZ74&s=qrv_wBwF_IV_78gF1wf1P1IAWTl4HXdJLO4F5VcQT4A&e=
David McAuley: (07:01) And here is link to Milton’s blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.internetgovernance.org_2017_01_07_putting-2Dyour-2Drights-2Don-2Dthe-2Dclock-2Dthe-2Dirp-2Dsupplementary-2Drules_-3Futm-5Fsource-3Dfeedburner-26utm-5Fmedium-3Dfeed-26utm-5Fcampaign-3DFeed-253A-2Binternetgovernance-252FabwE-2B-2528IGP-2BBlog-2529&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=kbiQDH54980u4nTPfwdloDLY6-6F24x0ArAvhdeDvvc&m=_u0SncGIevgmslM1fpKCLTGh4Z0GJd2kKMhBY_yvZ74&s=bFTED6M-s-MObBPD9gE5gwHy1ts8BYC-soKj6TVR-9k&e=
avri doria: (07:11) not 16th for me
David McAuley: (07:11) thanks Avri
David McAuley: (07:12) in this group sounds like 23rd
David McAuley: (07:13) Bernie - asntyhing available week of 6th
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (07:14) yes
avri doria: (07:14) i am also open for the 0500 time block, see mo reason to avoid it.
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (07:14) Thursday 9th 1900
David McAuley: (07:14) thanks
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: (07:15) but note we are meeting on Jan 27th
Malcolm Hutty: (07:18) Apologies for joining late
David McAuley: (07:18) i will summarize Malcom
Marianne Georgelin (Afnic): (07:19) I also agree with your statement David
David McAuley: (07:19) smll attendance again
Chris Disspain: (07:20) greetings all....Apologies for being late
Malcolm Hutty: (07:20) Sounds good to me, and thanks for the summary.
David McAuley: (07:20) that is correct
Brenda Brewer: (07:28) Scroll for both letters
Marianne Georgelin (Afnic): (07:34) Thank you David
avri doria: (07:34) bye
Greg Shatan 2: (07:34) Thanks and bye!
Malcolm Hutty: (07:34) Thank you, bye all
David McAuley: (07:34) Good bye all, thank you
